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** ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2015}}''


* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Some see him as this to ComicBook/{{Bane}}; They are both bigger, nastier ShadowArchetype counterparts of the heroes they fight, both wore down their opponent mentally before beating them in their first appearance, and both have had lengthy stints as anti-Heroes and evolving motives. (However unlike Bane, Venom stayed as a anti-hero.)

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* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Some see him as this to ComicBook/{{Bane}}; They are both bigger, nastier ShadowArchetype counterparts of the heroes they fight, both wore down their opponent mentally before beating them in their first appearance, and both have had lengthy stints as anti-Heroes anti-heroes and evolving motives. (However unlike Bane, Venom stayed as a anti-hero.)


** ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' introduced a retcon that, at first glance, appears to throw out almost ''all'' the previously established lore regarding symbiotes: most symbiotes are benevolent and transform their hosts into noble warriors and paragons of justice intended to protect their the cosmos. Unworthy hosts like Eddie Brock, Mac Gargan, and Cletus Kasady can corrupt them into the predatory monsters most are familiar with, which led to the establishment of the intergalactic empire of predatory parasites established in the original ''Planet of the Symbiotes'' arc. The reason given for this retcon is particularly grating, however, since it insinuates that ViewersAreGoldfish at best and ViewersAreMorons at worst.
** PlayedForLaughs in ''Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars'' #3, where it's revealed that the symbiote briefly bonded to SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} before it was found by Spider-Man. This sets up ''[[http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/07/22/exclusive-deadpool-gets-a-symbiote-in-back-in-black/ Deadpool: Back in Black]]'', which showcases Deadpool's previously unseen adventures with the symbiote.

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** ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' introduced a retcon that, at first glance, appears to throw out almost ''all'' the previously established lore regarding symbiotes: most symbiotes are benevolent and transform their hosts into noble warriors and paragons of justice intended to protect their the cosmos. Unworthy hosts like Eddie Brock, Mac Gargan, and Cletus Kasady can corrupt them into the predatory monsters most are familiar with, which led to the establishment of the intergalactic empire of predatory parasites established in the original ''Planet of the Symbiotes'' arc. The reason given for this retcon is particularly grating, however, since it insinuates that ViewersAreGoldfish at best and ViewersAreMorons at worst. Donny Cates would later retcon this to being mostly a lie (a symbiote's host does effect them) that the Agent of the Cosmos tell to hide their dark past.
** PlayedForLaughs in ''Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars'' #3, where it's revealed that the symbiote briefly bonded to SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} before it was found by Spider-Man. This sets up ''[[http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/07/22/exclusive-deadpool-gets-a-symbiote-in-back-in-black/ Deadpool: Back in Black]]'', which showcases Deadpool's previously unseen adventures with the symbiote.



* ShaggyDogStory: The symbiote's redemption arc in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' and ''Venom: Space Knight'', as [[StatusQuoIsGod it is quickly re-corrupted]].

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* ShaggyDogStory: The Subverted, while it seemed that the symbiote's redemption arc in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' and ''Venom: Space Knight'', Knight'' ended in failure as [[StatusQuoIsGod it is quickly re-corrupted]].re-corrupted]], Flash succedes in fixing the Venom symbiote at the end of ''Venom: Space Knight''.



** In ''Guardians of the Galaxy''[='=]s "Planet Venom" arc, the Venom symbiote is returned to its homeworld and purged of its corruption, becoming a force for good. The subsequent series, ''Venom: Space Knight'' and ''Venom'' Vol. 3, undid this development.

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** In Zig-zagged, in ''Guardians of the Galaxy''[='=]s "Planet Venom" arc, the Venom symbiote is returned to its homeworld and purged of its corruption, becoming a force for good. The subsequent series, ''Venom: Space Knight'' and ''Venom'' Vol. 3, seemingly undid this development.development but thanks to the efforts of Flash and Eddie the Venom symbiote was able to be cured of it's corruption and stay a force for good.


* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Some see him as this to ComicBook/{{Bane}}; They are both bigger, nastier ShadowArchetype counterparts of the heroes they fight, both wore down their opponent mentally before beating them in their first appearance, and both have had lengthy stints as Anti-Heroes and evolving motives.

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* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Some see him as this to ComicBook/{{Bane}}; They are both bigger, nastier ShadowArchetype counterparts of the heroes they fight, both wore down their opponent mentally before beating them in their first appearance, and both have had lengthy stints as Anti-Heroes anti-Heroes and evolving motives.motives. (However unlike Bane, Venom stayed as a anti-hero.)



** Eddie himself was given terminal adrenal cancer, changing both the explanation for why he wanted to kill himself and why the symbiote bonded to him. In ''Lethal Protector'' Eddie was given a fairly sympathetic backstory, but ''Dark Origin'' turned him into a pathological liar who deserved his humiliation and comeuppance. The only details kept the same were Eddie's father blaming him for his mother's death, him being a journalist and Ann Weying a lawyer, and the symbiote bonding to him in a church, to the point where [[http://4thletter.net/2008/09/venoms-shiny-new-origin-if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it/ a critical reviewer]] wondered if the writer and artist had done nothing more than consult Venom's {{Wiki/Wikipedia}} page for research due to the sheer number of {{Series Continuity Error}}s present in it.

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** Eddie himself was given terminal adrenal cancer, changing both the explanation for why he wanted to kill himself and why the symbiote bonded to him. In ''Lethal Protector'' Eddie was given a fairly sympathetic backstory, but ''Dark Origin'' turned him into a pathological liar who deserved his humiliation and comeuppance. The only details kept the same were Eddie's father blaming him for his mother's death, him being a journalist and Ann Weying a lawyer, and the symbiote bonding to him in a church, to the point where [[http://4thletter.net/2008/09/venoms-shiny-new-origin-if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it/ a critical reviewer]] wondered if the writer and artist had done nothing more than consult Venom's {{Wiki/Wikipedia}} page for research due to the sheer number of {{Series Continuity Error}}s present in it. Later both Eddie having cancer before meeting the symbiote and Dark Origin were revealed to be [[ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom false memories the Venom symbiote implanted in Eddie's mind]], with the orginal sympathetic backstory being the true events.



* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Thaddeus Paine was introduced as a ComicBook/{{Morbius}} villain, but is possibly more well-known for his appearance in ''Venom: The Hunger'', probably because [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse it was his last]].

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* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Thaddeus Paine was introduced as a ComicBook/{{Morbius}} villain, but is possibly more well-known for his appearance in ''Venom: The Hunger'', probably because [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse it was his last]]. After losing the Venom symbiote and Eddie regaining it, Scorpion would join Venom's rogues gallery.


* AntiHero: Or AntiVillain, depending on the host: Peter Parker is a straight-up hero; Eddie Brock was a SociopathicHero before mellowing out into a UnscrupulousHero; Angelo Fortunato was a DirtyCoward, Mac Gargan was an AxCrazy VillainWithGoodPublicity; Flash is a straight-up [[TheHero hero]], or at least [[SuperpoweredEvilSide he tries to be]]; and the Superior Spider-Man is an UnscrupulousHero turned NominalHero.
* ArchEnemy: One of the three big ones for Spidey, alongside Doctor Octopus and the Green Goblin. Venom mainly filled the role from the late eighties to the mid-nineties, after which his career as an anti-hero and afterwards his status as a LegacyCharacter caused him to drop out of the role in favour of the other two, which are still competing for the title.

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* AntiHero: Or AntiVillain, depending on the host: Peter Parker is a straight-up hero; Eddie Brock was a SociopathicHero before mellowing out into a UnscrupulousHero; PragmaticHero; Angelo Fortunato was a DirtyCoward, Mac Gargan was an AxCrazy VillainWithGoodPublicity; Flash is a straight-up [[TheHero hero]], or at least [[SuperpoweredEvilSide he tries to be]]; and the Superior Spider-Man is an UnscrupulousHero turned NominalHero.
* ArchEnemy: One Formerly one of the three big ones for Spidey, alongside Doctor Octopus and the Green Goblin. Venom mainly filled the role from the late eighties to the mid-nineties, after which his career as an anti-hero and afterwards his status as a LegacyCharacter caused him to drop out of the role in favour favor of the other two, which are still competing for later Doc Ock would turn over a new leaf as well leaving the Green Goblin as the winner of the title.


* AngelFaceDemonFace: The way Venom looks ties closely with the relative morality of the symbiote's host. On the heroic side, Peter's suit looks more or less like his usual costume but in black; heroic soldier Flash Thompson wears what looks like body armor (unless he loses his temper); in the ''Comicbook/SpiderGirl'' series, Normie Osborn had what looked like the usual suit but with his face visible underneath and no fangs; and in ''Comicbook/EarthX'' it looks just like a regular suit that May is wearing (but [[ClingyCostume can't take off]]). On the evil side of things, Eddie Brock's costume usually looks the same as Peter's but has MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily, claws, and a lolling tongue; and when the eviler Mac Gargan and Lee Price wear the symbiote it looks even more monstrous than Brock's usual version.

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* AngelFaceDemonFace: The way Venom looks ties closely with the relative morality of the symbiote's host. On the heroic side, Peter's suit looks more or less like his usual costume but in black; Eddie Brock's costume usually looks the same as Peter's but has MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily, claws, and a lolling tongue thanks to being a anti-hero; heroic soldier Flash Thompson wears what looks like body armor (unless he loses his temper); in the ''Comicbook/SpiderGirl'' series, Normie Osborn had what looked like the usual suit but with his face visible underneath and no fangs; and in ''Comicbook/EarthX'' it looks just like a regular suit that May is wearing (but [[ClingyCostume can't take off]]). On the evil side of things, Eddie Brock's costume usually looks the same as Peter's but has MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily, claws, and a lolling tongue; and when the eviler Mac Gargan and Lee Price wear the symbiote it looks even more monstrous than Brock's usual version.


* AngelFaceDemonFace: The way Venom looks ties closely with the relative morality of the symbiote's host. On the heroic side, Peter's suit looks more or less like his usual costume but in black; heroic soldier Flash Thompson wears what looks like body armor (unless he loses his temper); and in the ''Comicbook/SpiderGirl'' series, Normie Osborn had what looked like the usual suit but with his face visible underneath and no fangs. On the evil side of things, Eddie Brock's costume usually looks the same as Peter's but has MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily, claws, and a lolling tongue; and when the eviler Mac Gargan and Lee Price wear the symbiote it looks even more monstrous than Brock's usual version.

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* AngelFaceDemonFace: The way Venom looks ties closely with the relative morality of the symbiote's host. On the heroic side, Peter's suit looks more or less like his usual costume but in black; heroic soldier Flash Thompson wears what looks like body armor (unless he loses his temper); and in the ''Comicbook/SpiderGirl'' series, Normie Osborn had what looked like the usual suit but with his face visible underneath and no fangs.fangs; and in ''Comicbook/EarthX'' it looks just like a regular suit that May is wearing (but [[ClingyCostume can't take off]]). On the evil side of things, Eddie Brock's costume usually looks the same as Peter's but has MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily, claws, and a lolling tongue; and when the eviler Mac Gargan and Lee Price wear the symbiote it looks even more monstrous than Brock's usual version.


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* RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: Subverted: in ''Earth X'', May as Venom has this color scheme as opposed to the usual black-and-white. She has it well under control, but Peter believes that one day the symbiote might snap, which leads to him and his daughter being estranged from one another.

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** In ''Spider-Man[=/=]Red Sonja'' #2, Venom uses his "Venom Predate" attack from ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' -- turning his head and arms into a massive set of jaws -- in an attempt to eat Spider-Man.

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* DeliberatelyBadExample: Venom started out as an antagonist for Spider-Man, hoping to kill Spidey for losing him his job, but when he became more of an AntiHero he was given his own "worse version" in the form of Carnage, who possesses the same powers as Venom, but bonded to the mind of a sociopathic SerialKiller.


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** ''Venom: First Host'': 1 - 5: A miniseries acting as a conclusion to Mike Costa's run on Venom.[[/index]]

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** ''Venom: First Host'': 1 - 5: A miniseries acting as a conclusion to Mike Costa's run on Venom.[[/index]]



** ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage''

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* EvilCounterpart: Eddie as Venom is generally considered '''the''' one for Spider-Man. Both Peter and Eddie had worked under news agencies and both gain the same spider-esque abilities, although while Peter is honest with his journalism and is a humble hero who acknowledges that power must be used responsibly, Eddie was a corrupt liar who got fired as a result, merging with the symbiote out of a mutual hatred for Spider-Man, and using his new power to kill him, or at least destroy his life. Nowadays however, [[CharacterDevelopment things changed, and so had Eddie and Venom.]]

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* EvilCounterpart: Eddie as Venom Venom, in the comics and nearly every other form of media, is generally worldly considered '''the''' one for Spider-Man. Both Peter and Eddie had worked under news agencies and both gain the same spider-esque abilities, although while Peter is honest with his journalism and is a humble hero who acknowledges that power must be used responsibly, Eddie was a corrupt liar who got fired as a result, merging with the symbiote out of a mutual hatred for Spider-Man, and using his new power to kill him, or at least destroy his life. Nowadays however, [[CharacterDevelopment things changed, and so had Eddie and Venom.]]

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* EvilCounterpart: Eddie as Venom is generally considered '''the''' one for Spider-Man. Both Peter and Eddie had worked under news agencies and both gain the same spider-esque abilities, although while Peter is honest with his journalism and is a humble hero who acknowledges that power must be used responsibly, Eddie was a corrupt liar who got fired as a result, merging with the symbiote out of a mutual hatred for Spider-Man, and using his new power to kill him, or at least destroy his life. Nowadays however, [[CharacterDevelopment things changed, and so had Eddie and Venom.]]

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