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* LetsYouAndHimFight: Due to Namor being a noble guy but still for lack of a better term, a dick, this still happens even with heroes that know him.

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** The time that the three of them (Namor, Doom, and Magneto) staged an intervention for the ComicBook/BlackPanther stands as a crowning achievement.


* {{Jerkass}}: He occasionally has his genuine non self-serving PetTheDog moments, but those are very, very rare. On most occasions, his "nice" moments are just ploys to butter people up into giving him what he wants, and he's generally one of the biggest douchebags in the entire MU.
** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: One notable example is an issue of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' in which Reed Richards had returned [[DeathIsCheap after it was believed he was dead]] and found Namor assaulting his wife and attempting to kidnap her. Furious, Reed attacked, they fought, and Namor, after realizing at long last that Sue genuinely loved her husband, purposefully [[ThrowingTheFight lost the fight]] and pretended to be knocked unconscious so that Reed would feel better and regain his confidence. It was implied that he did so in order to win Sue's heart at a later point in time.
** And note that being a jerkass made him one of the very first comic book superheroes to actually have a ''personality''.

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* {{Jerkass}}: He occasionally has his genuine non self-serving PetTheDog moments, but those are very, very rare. On most occasions, his "nice" moments are just ploys to butter people up into giving him what he wants, and he's generally one of the biggest douchebags in the entire MU.
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MU. And note that Namor being a huge dick made him one of the very first comic book superheroes to actually have a ''personality''.
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JerkWithAHeartOfGold: One notable example is an issue of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' in which Reed Richards had returned [[DeathIsCheap after it was believed he was dead]] and found Namor assaulting his wife and attempting to kidnap her. Furious, Reed attacked, they fought, and Namor, after realizing at long last that Sue genuinely loved her husband, purposefully [[ThrowingTheFight lost the fight]] and pretended to be knocked unconscious so that Reed would feel better and regain his confidence. It was implied that he did so in order to win Sue's heart at a later point in time. \n** And note that being a jerkass made him one of the very first comic book superheroes to actually have a ''personality''.



* ShellShockedWarVeteran: The 2018 Invaders comic claims that he has been this ever since World War II, from his service with the Invaders.

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* ShellShockedWarVeteran: ShellShockedVeteran: The 2018 Invaders comic claims that he has been this ever since World War II, from his service with the Invaders.

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* ShellShockedWarVeteran: The 2018 Invaders comic claims that he has been this ever since World War II, from his service with the Invaders.


* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: The prince or king of Atlantis (depending on the story) is willing to fight battles himself or at the front of his army.
** His royal styling appears to actually be Prince of Atlantis, though not as in "son of the current reigning king".

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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: The prince or king of Atlantis (depending on the story) is willing to fight battles himself or at the front of his army.
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army. His royal styling appears to actually be Prince of Atlantis, though not as in "son of the current reigning king".


Namor first appeared in Martin Goodman's ''[[ComicBook/MarvelMysteryComics Marvel Comics]]'' #1 (October, 1939), the very first publication of [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely Comics]], in an expanded and colourised version of a strip written for the never-published ''Motion Picture Funnies'' #1. He quickly became one of the most popular characters in Timely's stable.

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Namor first appeared in Martin Goodman's ''[[ComicBook/MarvelMysteryComics Marvel Mystery Comics]]'' #1 (October, 1939), the very first publication of [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely Comics]], in an expanded and colourised version of a strip written for the never-published ''Motion Picture Funnies'' #1. He quickly became one of the most popular characters in Timely's stable.


Namor first appeared in Martin Goodman's ''Marvel Comics'' #1 (October, 1939), the very first publication of [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely Comics]], in an expanded and colourised version of a strip written for the never-published ''Motion Picture Funnies'' #1. He quickly became one of the most popular characters in Timely's stable.

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Namor first appeared in Martin Goodman's ''Marvel Comics'' ''[[ComicBook/MarvelMysteryComics Marvel Comics]]'' #1 (October, 1939), the very first publication of [[Creator/MarvelComics Timely Comics]], in an expanded and colourised version of a strip written for the never-published ''Motion Picture Funnies'' #1. He quickly became one of the most popular characters in Timely's stable.

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*** In fairness, though, Namor's family ''are'' [[RoyalInbreeding royalty]].


** Initially the Atlanteans or Sub-Mariners, as they were originally called, had BizarreSexualDimorphism with the males having green scaly skin, large eyes and catfish-like barbels under their noses while the females had Caucasian skin, large eyes and some slight-fish like features. The blue skin, name of their race and the fact that they had any connection to Atlantis would not appear until 1963: twenty-four years after Namor's debut.
Further more they could be out of water for five hours with Namor being able to be outside indefinitely due to his half-human nature.

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** Initially the Atlanteans or Sub-Mariners, as they were originally called, had BizarreSexualDimorphism with the males having green scaly skin, large eyes and catfish-like barbels under their noses while the females had Caucasian skin, large eyes and some slight-fish like features. The blue skin, name of their race and the fact that they had any connection to Atlantis would not appear until 1963: twenty-four years after Namor's debut. \n Further more they could be out of water for five hours with Namor being able to be outside indefinitely due to his half-human nature.


* ComicBookFantasyCasting: As drawn by his creator Bill Everett, Namor's facial features resembled that of his creator and even had his creator's red hair.



** Initially the Atlanteans or Sub-Mariners, as they were originally called, had BizarreSexualDimorphism with the males having green scaly skin, large eyes and catfish-like barbels under their noses while the females had Caucasian skin, large eyes and some slight-fish like features. The blue skin, name of their race and the fact that they had any connection to Atlantis would not appear until 1963: twenty-four years after Namor's debut. Further more they could be out of water for five hours with Namor being able to be outside indefinitely due to his half-human nature.

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** Initially the Atlanteans or Sub-Mariners, as they were originally called, had BizarreSexualDimorphism with the males having green scaly skin, large eyes and catfish-like barbels under their noses while the females had Caucasian skin, large eyes and some slight-fish like features. The blue skin, name of their race and the fact that they had any connection to Atlantis would not appear until 1963: twenty-four years after Namor's debut.
Further more they could be out of water for five hours with Namor being able to be outside indefinitely due to his half-human nature.nature.
** Under Bill Everett, Namor had his creator's red hair. He has since been immortalized with black hair.


* CanisLatinicus: His CathPhrase, Imperius Rex. "Imperius" is a nonsense (though obviously derived from the real Latin word ''imperium''). There are quite similar-sounding real words that could be used instead to make it make sense, but as it stands, the phrase is a prime example of this trope. (The second element, Rex, is legitimate; it means King.)

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* CanisLatinicus: His CathPhrase, CatchPhrase, Imperius Rex. "Imperius" is a nonsense (though obviously derived from the real Latin word ''imperium''). There are quite similar-sounding real words that could be used instead to make it make sense, but as it stands, the phrase is a prime example of this trope. (The second element, Rex, is legitimate; it means King.)


* CanisLatinicus: His cathphrase, Imperius Rex. "Imperius" is a nonsense (though obviously derived from the real Latin word ''imperium''). There are quite similar-sounding ones that could be used instead to make it make sense, but as it stands, the phrase is a prime example of this trope. (The second element, Rex, is legitimate; it means King.)

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* CanisLatinicus: His cathphrase, CathPhrase, Imperius Rex. "Imperius" is a nonsense (though obviously derived from the real Latin word ''imperium''). There are quite similar-sounding ones real words that could be used instead to make it make sense, but as it stands, the phrase is a prime example of this trope. (The second element, Rex, is legitimate; it means King.)

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** The post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' version of the Ocean Master was radically altered into a slightly less-Jerkassy version of Namor. The main difference is that Orm is typically an AntiVillain who will help the good guys if it serves his purposes, Namor is traditionally depicted as an AntiHero who will turn on the good guys for his own ends.


* AntiVillain: DependingOnTheWriter and when he isn't being an AntiHero -- Retconned as a chemically induced fictional mood imbalance (bipolar disorder doesn't work like that) during Byrne's run on Namor's own book. He is a member of the Illuminati (a council of powerful heroes which includes Professor X, Iron Man, Reed Richards, and Doctor Strange) and the Cabal (its villainous counterpart). He claims he doesn't see the difference.

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* AntiVillain: DependingOnTheWriter and when he isn't being an AntiHero -- Retconned as a chemically induced fictional mood imbalance (bipolar disorder doesn't work like that) during Byrne's run on Namor's own book. He is a member of the Illuminati (a council of powerful heroes which includes Professor X, Iron Man, Reed Richards, and Doctor Strange) and the Cabal (its villainous counterpart).counterpart, which included Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom and Loki). He claims he doesn't see the difference.


* CaptainErsatz: Some might call him one of Creator/DCComics' Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}, but Namor came first by a few years. Meanwhile ComicBook/BlackAdam's characterization has often been compared to Namor's. As have his looks in recent years. Adam was rather less attractive originally, but now they practically look like twins.

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* CaptainErsatz: Some might call him one of Inverted.
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Creator/DCComics' Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}, but Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} first appeared a few years after Namor came first by a few years. Meanwhile and shares several similarities to him. They have effectively been each other's AlternateCompanyEquivalent for many years.
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ComicBook/BlackAdam's characterization has often been compared to Namor's. As Namor's, as have his looks in recent years. Adam was rather less attractive originally, but now they practically look like twins.

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