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* NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup‎: The Vatican in the "original timeline" had their time-traveling technology and any incriminating evidence of its existence destroyed, which also meant that the armed force sent back in time are stuck there for good. This is done in order make sure that no one else could tamper with time. [[spoiler:Though not before sending ''another'' contingent a few centuries later than the first one as backup, who end up becoming an alternate KnightsTemplar]].

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* NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup‎: The Vatican in the "original timeline" had their time-traveling technology and any incriminating evidence of its existence destroyed, which also meant that the armed force sent back in time are stuck there for good. This is done in order make sure that no one else could tamper with time. [[spoiler:Though not before sending ''another'' contingent a few centuries later than the first one as backup, who end up becoming an alternate KnightsTemplar]].Knights Templar]].

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* BodyHorror: The unlucky soldiers at the fringes of the time machine's radius pop up sometime later, looking ''far'' worse for wear.



* NoodleIncident: A number of events in the altered timeline are mentioned that aren't really elaborated upon. [[spoiler:Notably the arrival of another Vatican expedition centuries after the events of the story, who become a new Knights Templar.]]
* NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup‎: The Vatican in the "original timeline" had their time-traveling technology and any incriminating evidence of its existence destroyed, which also meant that the armed force sent back in time are stuck there for good. This is done in order make sure that no one else could tamper with time. [[spoiler:Though not before sending ''another'' contingent a few centuries later than the first one, who end up becoming an alternate KnightsTemplar]].

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* NoodleIncident: A number of events in the altered timeline are mentioned that aren't really elaborated upon. [[spoiler:Notably the arrival of another Vatican expedition centuries after the events of the story, who become a new Knights Templar. And eventually, the Romans setting up off-world colonies by the 15th Century AD.]]
* NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup‎: The Vatican in the "original timeline" had their time-traveling technology and any incriminating evidence of its existence destroyed, which also meant that the armed force sent back in time are stuck there for good. This is done in order make sure that no one else could tamper with time. [[spoiler:Though not before sending ''another'' contingent a few centuries later than the first one, one as backup, who end up becoming an alternate KnightsTemplar]].



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong‎: This is the basic justification behind the original plan. Problems arise however over ''how'' to go about it, let alone what was meant by that in the first place.

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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong‎: SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: This is the basic justification behind the original plan. Problems arise however over ''how'' to go about it, let alone what was meant by that in the first place.

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* NoodleIncident: A number of events in the altered timeline are mentioned that aren't really elaborated upon. [[spoiler:Notably the arrival of another Vatican expedition centuries after the events of the story, who become a new Knights Templar.]]



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Emperor Constantine, who sincerely believes that Chase's vision for mankind is also for the good of Rome. General Chase himself is more of a deconstruction of this trope.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Emperor Constantine, who sincerely believes that Chase's vision for mankind is also for the good of Rome. General Chase himself is more of a deconstruction of this trope.



* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: A good deal of the comic also delves into this trope, showing just how far people would strive to achieve it. [[{{Deconstruction}} And also their own failings and hubris can make utopia both undesirable and impossible in its purest form.]]

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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: A good deal of the comic also delves into this trope, showing just how far people would strive to achieve it. [[{{Deconstruction}} And also how their own failings and hubris can make utopia both undesirable and impossible in its purest form.]]


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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: While General Chase and his fellow officers don't always see eye-to-eye, they initially manage to stick together. As time passes however, this degenerates into AHouseDivided as their personalities and differing visions start forming rifts among themselves.

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* MarySuetopia: Subverted and Deconstructed. Chase and his cohorts were aiming for something like this eventually: a utopia free of the "original timeline's" mistakes. But while the end result isn't exactly what the General or even the Pope originally envisioned, it's still a remarkable success. [[spoiler:Especially since the altered present day is revealed to be in ''1491''.]]
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* AuthorTract: The BadFuture scenes seem to give this impression, though they're ultimately a red herring for the actual themes.

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* BoomHeadshot: [[spoiler:This is how Chase ultimately dies.]]



* PuppetKing: Emperor Constantine subverts this. While he agrees to go along with Chase's plan, it's made clear that he still has considerable clout in Roman politics.

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* PuppetKing: Emperor Constantine subverts this. While he agrees to go along with Chase's plan, it's made clear that he still has considerable clout in Roman politics. His son is also a subversion of sorts [[spoiler:at least until he's gunned down]].

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* BioAugmentation‎: The time-displaced force under Chase (including himself) were given genetic enhancements before their arrival, so as to better do their mission.

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* BioAugmentation‎: The time-displaced force under Chase (including himself) were given genetic enhancements before their arrival, so as to better do their mission. This also includes longevity.
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* BioAugmentation‎: The time-displaced force under Chase (including himself) were given genetic enhancements before their arrival, so as to better do their mission.
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* BadassArmy: Chase's forces, rechristened as the Eternal Army of Rome, by virtue of being comprised of experienced soldiers and a suite of modern hardware.


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* DecoyProtagonist: Cardinal Beppi Pelle, the clergyman sent back along with Chase was one of the key people in charge of overseeing the time-travel experiments and is nominally the head of the force. [[spoiler:He's shot by Chase and company not long after they arrive.]]


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* PuppetKing: Emperor Constantine subverts this. While he agrees to go along with Chase's plan, it's made clear that he still has considerable clout in Roman politics.

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* YouCantGoHomeAgain: It's made clear that the time-displaced soldiers have no way to get back to their original time.

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* WasItReallyWorthIt: A recurring motif. The comic constantly has the protagonists (and readers) wondering whether their actions and goals are really worth their high-minded visions.
* YouCantGoHomeAgain: It's made clear that the time-displaced soldiers have no way to get back to their original time.
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* LowCultureHighTech: At first anyway. The time travelers are aware that their technological advantage won't last too long if they're not careful, especially as their ammo depletes and hardware breaks down without the means to manufacture new ones. As a result, they make use of it to set up a basis on which Rome can advance, though gunpowder is relatively easy to introduce. This also explains why the Romans don't leap into modernization right away [[spoiler:and why it still takes centuries before an Industrial Revolution occurs]].
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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong‎: This is the basic justification behind the original plan. Problems arise however over ''how'' to go about it, let alone what was meant by that in the first place.

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* ChristianityIsCatholic: As a result of Chase and company's actions, the United Church under the Vatican is pretty much the only Christian denomination around and is much more "catholic" (in the sense of being universal) than the actual Catholic Church. Tellingly, the Gene Pope's other titles include being the Black Rabbi, Last Caliph and even the high priest to Amon-Ra.



* MarySuetopia: Subverted and Deconstructed. Chase and his cohorts were aiming for something like this eventually: a utopia free of the "original timeline's" mistakes. But while the end result isn't exactly what the General or even the Pope originally envisioned, it's still a remarkable success. [[spoiler:Especially since the altered present day is revealed to be in 1491.]]

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* MarySuetopia: Subverted and Deconstructed. Chase and his cohorts were aiming for something like this eventually: a utopia free of the "original timeline's" mistakes. But while the end result isn't exactly what the General or even the Pope originally envisioned, it's still a remarkable success. [[spoiler:Especially since the altered present day is revealed to be in 1491.''1491''.]]


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* YouCantGoHomeAgain: It's made clear that the time-displaced soldiers have no way to get back to their original time.

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* AlternateHistoryWank: The Romans, or the Holy Roman Empire as they come to be known, not only last much longer but go on to hold dominion over a large chunk of the world in the centuries after. Another emerges in Africa [[spoiler:which is forged by a breakaway faction of Chase's group. They eventually form a union with the HRE through marriage in the future]].



* FourStarBadass[=/=]RetiredBadass: General Nicholas Chase. He didn't rise up the ranks by kissing posterior after all. [[spoiler:He even sort-of survives his own death through the various Gene Popes over the generations.]]



* MarySuetopia: Subverted and Deconstructed. Chase and his cohorts were aiming for something like this eventually: a utopia free of the "original timeline's" mistakes. But while the end result isn't exactly what the General or even the Pope originally envisioned, it's still a remarkable success. [[spoiler:Especially since the altered present day is revealed to be in 1491.]]
* MedievalMorons: Averted. The Romans are amazed by the technology and powers Chase and company display, but they're definitely not idiots nor blindly taking their advice.



* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: A good deal of the comic also delves into this trope, showing just how far people would strive to achieve it. And also their own failings and hubris can make utopia both undesirable and impossible in its purest form.

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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: A good deal of the comic also delves into this trope, showing just how far people would strive to achieve it. [[{{Deconstruction}} And also their own failings and hubris can make utopia both undesirable and impossible in its purest form.]]

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In the not too distant future, a Vatican-backed research project has discovered the secret of time travel. With it the Church plans to fix [[BadFuture the future]] by altering the past. They send a warehouse of modern weaponry and enhanced soldiers to Rome in 312 AD. But plans change quickly as the cardinal in charge of the mission is shot. Or at least that is how the aging Gene Pope is telling the young Holy Roman Emperor in an alternate Constantinople generations after those events.

''Pax Romana'' is a four-issue comic series by Jonathan Hickman released in 2008. Set largely in the later years of the Roman Empire (though through the lens of hindsight), the plot largely follows a full contingent of time-displaced soldiers led by Nicholas Chase, a retired American general along with a cohort of partners on a [[MissionFromGod mission from the Pope]] to change history and right the wrongs of modern humanity. Things however don't exactly go as planned, with changes in strategies, jealousies, political intrigue and human error taking the original mission on a different if interesting course.

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* BadFuture: The 2050s. From the perspective of the Catholic Church and protagonists from the "original timeline" at least.
* GivingRadioToTheRomans: The main premise of the plot. The ailing Catholic Church sends a paramilitary group back to 312 AD to use both advanced technology and knowledge of future events to help the Roman Empire set up a stronger foundation for the Church. Things don't go as planned, but even so, technology and culture advance much quicker than in the unaltered timeline, although it still takes generations before a more recognizably modern landscape emerges.
* NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup‎: The Vatican in the "original timeline" had their time-traveling technology and any incriminating evidence of its existence destroyed, which also meant that the armed force sent back in time are stuck there for good. This is done in order make sure that no one else could tamper with time. [[spoiler:Though not before sending ''another'' contingent a few centuries later than the first one, who end up becoming an alternate KnightsTemplar]].
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: A good deal of the comic also delves into this trope, showing just how far people would strive to achieve it. And also their own failings and hubris can make utopia both undesirable and impossible in its purest form.

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