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* ShoutOut: To the "live fast, die young" bad-boy archetype in general and to Creator/RiverPhoenix in particular. The Asp Hole itself is based on The Viper Room, the celebrity-owned nightclub where Phoenix fatally OD'd in 1993.

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* ShoutOut: To the "live fast, die young" bad-boy archetype in general and to Creator/RiverPhoenix in particular. The Asp Hole itself is based on The the Viper Room, the celebrity-owned nightclub where Phoenix fatally OD'd overdosed in 1993.


* UnknownRival: More a one-sided one. Therese is waging a bitter struggle with Bertram Tung for control of Santa Monica. When you talk to him he has no idea why she thinks he's a rival; he has no interest in kindred politics and the area only has four or five vampires anyway so he's fine with her declaring herself in charge.

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* UnknownRival: More a one-sided one. Therese is waging a bitter struggle with Bertram Tung for control of Santa Monica. When you talk to him he has no idea why she thinks he's a rival; he has no interest in kindred politics and the area only has four or five vampires anyway so he's fine with her declaring herself in charge. [[spoiler: Dialogue with the twins implies Therese wants Tung dead simply to get back at her sister, who was in a relationship with him.]]

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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: He encourages the Fledgeling - and all new vampires, in general - to adopt this approach regarding loyalty. While you're learning the ropes, your survival is your number one priority, over personal beliefs or philosophies. And, most importantly, young vampires shouldn't be ashamed of it; the World of Darkness is one of murder and intrigue, and a Fledgeling can easily get themselves killed if they don't act cautiously. However, he does caution that this shouldn't be a permanent state; once a vampire has gotten used to surviving their new condition, they need to decide where their loyalties lie.

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* OhCrap: When he starts smelling smoke and realizes that someone started a fire to kill him and the player. Not because the fire itself is dangerous, but rather because the two of them are in ''werewolf territory.''

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* NotSoStoic: He's not typically someone who would turn his back on a fight, but even ''he'' is unnerved by the prospect of fighting werewolves. Especially ''pissed off'' werewolves.


* MismatchedEyes: Jeanette has them; Therese's eyes are both blue [[spoiler: but only when Jeanette has no control over their body. Presumably, she's wearing a colored contact.]]

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* MismatchedEyes: Jeanette has them; Therese's eyes are both blue [[spoiler: but only when Jeanette has no control over their body. Presumably, she's wearing a colored contact.contact, since she's the one who mixes with the clientele in the club.]]


* HairTriggerTemper: Like many Brujah, it doesn't take her much to fly into rage.

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* HairTriggerTemper: Like many Brujah, it doesn't take her much to fly into rage. The PC can even tell her something along the lines of "Did you know you have easily pressed [[BerserkButton buttons]]?"
* MoodSwinger: With a single dialog option, she can swing from ''"You cammy fuck!"'' to "Hey, you're not so bad after all."


* GuideDangIt: It is possible (and awards the most experience) to save them both, but the requirements are truly obnoxious. You need a moderate persuasion score, but the trolling is that you also need to have exactly the same number of hidden relationship points with them each. Too nice to Therese when you first met her? Fail! Friendly instead of flirty to Jeanette? Fail! The mechanics seem to be bugged as well, so often you'll not be able to get the good ending to the quest no matter what you do.

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* GuideDangIt: It is possible (and awards the most experience) to save them both, but the requirements are truly obnoxious. You need a moderate persuasion score, but the trolling is that you also need to have exactly the same number of hidden relationship points with them each. Too nice to Therese when you first met her? Fail! Friendly instead of flirty to Jeanette? Fail! The mechanics seem to be bugged as well, so often you'll not be able to get the good ending to the quest no matter what you do.


* ShoutOut: To the "live fast, die young" bad-boy archetype in general and to Creator/RiverPhoenix in particular. Besides the awful pun, the Asp Hole is also a shout out to one of Phoenix's movies, ''Viper Room''.

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* ShoutOut: To the "live fast, die young" bad-boy archetype in general and to Creator/RiverPhoenix in particular. Besides the awful pun, the The Asp Hole itself is also a shout out to one of Phoenix's movies, ''Viper Room''.based on The Viper Room, the celebrity-owned nightclub where Phoenix fatally OD'd in 1993.


* HairTriggerTemper: Though he's more reasonable than many Anarchs when he's calm, his Brujah blood can flare up in a hurry if you're not careful what you say.

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* HairTriggerTemper: HotBlooded: Though he's more reasonable than many Anarchs when he's calm, his Brujah blood can flare up in a hurry if you're not careful what you say.



* ChekhovsSkill: His quote about having made someone deep-throat dynamite implies that he knows a thing or two about explosives...
** Also the fact that he was a pirate.

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* ChekhovsSkill: ChekhovsSkill:
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His quote about having made someone deep-throat dynamite implies that he knows a thing or two about explosives...
** Also the fact that he was a pirate.pirate, which comes in handy when he [[spoiler:robs the Elizabeth Dane]].



* NoSell: If you try to Dominate Therese into giving you what you want, she reacts with frigid amusement.



* PetTheDog: Read what Jeanette says to a Nosferatu PC on AnythingThatMoves. That's the nicest thing she's ''ever'' said to anyone.

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* PetTheDog: PetTheDog:
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Read what Jeanette says to a Nosferatu PC on AnythingThatMoves. That's the nicest thing she's ''ever'' said to anyone.



** SplitPersonalityTakeover: [[spoiler:You can ultimately convince one of the two personalities to kill the other.]]
** SplitPersonalityMerge: [[spoiler:...or you can convince the two to join forces and get along in relative harmony.]]

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** SplitPersonalityTakeover: [[spoiler:You * SplitPersonalityMerge: [[spoiler:With a decent Persuasion score, you can ultimately convince one of the two personalities to kill the other.join forces and get along in relative harmony.]]
** SplitPersonalityMerge: [[spoiler:...or you can convince * SplitPersonalityTakeover: [[spoiler:Unless they're talked into reconciliation, one of the two to join forces and get along in relative harmony.personalities will end up killing the other. Your dialogue choices determine which one survives.]]



* BaldBlackLeaderGuy: Though he's second to Nines, he's still a leader of the Anarchs and of obvious African descent.



** BaldBlackLeaderGuy: Though he's second to Nines, he's still a leader of the Anarchs and of obvious African descent.



* TheDragon: To Nines.
* FantasticRacism: Toward Ghouls, judging by his comment after your took care of Patty. According to him, they are nothing but a weakness for vampires. It's possible considering his background, he views them as FantasticDrug addicts.

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* TheDragon: To Nines.
* FantasticRacism:
FantasticRacism:
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Toward Ghouls, judging by his comment after your took care of Patty. According to him, they are nothing but a weakness for vampires. It's possible considering his background, he views them as FantasticDrug addicts.



* InformedAttribute: Him being a Gangrel is AllThereInTheManual information; in-game, he is never seen using any Gangrel Discipline, doesn't show any animalistic mutations that comes packed with frenzies, nor does he ever mentions his lineage. In fact, many fans wrongly assumed he was a Brujah. [[FridgeBrilliance This shows us that he is really good at hiding his animalistic mutations.]] Masquerade is important, after all.

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* InformedAttribute: Him being a Gangrel is AllThereInTheManual information; in-game, he is never seen using any Gangrel Discipline, doesn't show any animalistic mutations that comes packed with frenzies, nor does he ever mentions his lineage. In fact, many fans wrongly assumed he was a Brujah. [[FridgeBrilliance This shows us that he is really good at hiding his animalistic mutations.]] mutations -- Masquerade is important, after all.



* NumberTwo: He's second to Nines in the LA Anarch leadership.



* {{Hypocrite}}: Makes some snide remarks about the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed ([[AndIMustScream or worse considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]]) ''just like [=LaCroix=] has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.
** Compare his BadassBoast when threatened with coercion from the Camarilla to his reaction against hunters chasing after Ash.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: {{Hypocrite}}:
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Makes some snide remarks about [=LaCroix=] forcing the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s to run his errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed ([[AndIMustScream or worse worse]] considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]]) Tzimisce), ''just like [=LaCroix=] has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.
** Compare his BadassBoast when threatened with coercion from the Camarilla to his lack of reaction against hunters {{Vampire Hunter}}s chasing after Ash.



* NobodyOver50IsGay: Averted, and not just because he's a long-lived vamp.

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* NobodyOver50IsGay: Averted, and not just because he's a long-lived vamp.vampire.



* SugarAndIcePersonality: Can switch from [[BerserkButton "shrewish Camarilla-hating tycoon"]] mode to [[HiddenHeartOfGold "warm-hearted father figure"]] in a matter of seconds. And back. It all depends on how polite you are with him, and how often you press the button.

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* SugarAndIcePersonality: Can switch from [[BerserkButton "shrewish Camarilla-hating tycoon"]] mode to [[HiddenHeartOfGold "warm-hearted father figure"]] in a matter of seconds. And back. It all depends on how polite you are with him, and how often you press the button.provoke him.



* ShoutOut: To Creator/RiverPhoenix, and to the "live fast, die young" bad boy archetype in general.
** Besides the awful pun, the Asp Hole is also a shout out to one of Phoenix's movies, ''Viper Room''.

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* ShoutOut: To Creator/RiverPhoenix, and to the "live fast, die young" bad boy bad-boy archetype in general.
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general and to Creator/RiverPhoenix in particular. Besides the awful pun, the Asp Hole is also a shout out to one of Phoenix's movies, ''Viper Room''.



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Heavily implied as a Malkavian, but she refuses to talk about it.

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: Heavily implied as a Malkavian, but Malkavian and supported by Gary's comments about how she was "Miss [[IWasYoungAndNeededTheMoney Anything For Three Hundred]]" before she became "Miss Velour". When pressed, she refuses to talk about it.



** Gary dropping a comment in one of his emails about how before she became "Miss Velour" she was "[[IWasYoungAndNeededTheMoney Miss Anything For Three Hundred]]" also clearly supports this.



* LadyInRed: She wears all-red clothing -- which is to say, not particularly much.

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* LadyInRed: She wears all-red clothing -- which is to say, not particularly much.much -- and is an unreservedly sensual and passionate character.


* NotSoDifferent: From [=LaCroix=]. From the moment you step into Hollywood, you're expected to lick his shoes and do as he says, akin to how [=LaCroix=] has been treating the PC since keeping him from being executed and also sends him on suicide missions without giving any help. He also cites the Tradition of Domain by all but name, a Camarilla rule, and is equally vindictive towards the Camarilla as [=LaCroix=] is to the Anarchs.

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* NotSoDifferent: From [=LaCroix=]. From the moment you step into Hollywood, you're expected to lick his shoes and do as he says, akin to how [=LaCroix=] has been treating the PC since keeping him them from being executed and also sends him them on suicide missions without giving any help. He also cites the Tradition of Domain by all but name, Domain, a Camarilla rule, by all but name, and is equally vindictive towards the Camarilla as [=LaCroix=] is to the Anarchs.


* {{Hypocrite}}: Makes some snide remarks about the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed [[AndIMustScream (or worse considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]] ''just like [=LaCroix=] has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Makes some snide remarks about the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed [[AndIMustScream (or ([[AndIMustScream or worse considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]] Tzimisce]]) ''just like [=LaCroix=] has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.


** A Malkavian player will ask him "what happened to numbers one to eight". Nines responds they died. [[AllThereInTheManual According to]] ''Beckett's Jyhad Diary'' [[MassivelyNumberedSiblings he had eight siblings]] but none of them became Kindred (and are therefore long dead), implying he took his name from being the 'ninth' of his family.

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** A Malkavian player will ask him "what happened to numbers one to eight". Nines responds respond they died. [[AllThereInTheManual According to]] ''Beckett's Jyhad Diary'' [[MassivelyNumberedSiblings he had eight siblings]] but none of them became Kindred (and are therefore long dead), implying he took his name from being the 'ninth' of his family.



* RebelliousSpirit: A much more controlled and mature version of the ones Damsel and Skelter have. According to some characters, Nines was disillusioned by how the rich screwed over the poor in the 20's and 30's, especially after the Depression hit, and still carries a grudge.
* WorthyOpponent: Bertram Tung, Mercurio and Maximillian Strauss, all supporters of the Camarilla, can express respect for him and state that he'd make a valuable ally if vampire politics didn't get in the way.

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* RebelliousSpirit: A much more controlled and mature version of the ones one's Damsel and Skelter have. According to some characters, Nines was disillusioned by how the rich screwed over the poor in the 20's '20s and 30's, '30s, especially after the Depression hit, and still carries a grudge.
* WorthyOpponent: Bertram Tung, Mercurio Mercurio, and Maximillian Strauss, all supporters of the Camarilla, can express respect for him and state that he'd make a valuable ally if vampire politics didn't get in the way.



* MeaningfulName: The Malkavian name for him, "Demon", is rather fitting [[spoiler: for a ManipulativeBastard who's trying to damn the Camarilla in LA into a firey inferno via a bomb planted in the Sarcophagus.]]

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* MeaningfulName: The Malkavian name for him, "Demon", is rather fitting [[spoiler: for a ManipulativeBastard who's trying to damn the Camarilla in LA into a firey fiery inferno via a bomb planted in the Sarcophagus.]]



* ObfuscatingStupidity: Oh, he has the homeless Brujah thug look down alright, but a single conversation with him displays he's actually quite intelligent. [[spoiler: In the end we discover he's been playing most everybody in the game for fools. Save Maximillian Strauss -- no matter what option the Fledgling takes, Strauss assumes control of the Camarilla -- and if the player sides with Strauss, Jack's plan fails, saving getting Lacroix murdered.]]

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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Oh, he has the homeless Brujah thug look down alright, but a single conversation with him displays he's actually quite intelligent. [[spoiler: In the end end, we discover he's been playing most everybody in the game for fools. Save Maximillian Strauss -- no matter what option the Fledgling takes, Strauss assumes control of the Camarilla -- and if the player sides with Strauss, Jack's plan fails, saving getting Lacroix murdered.save for assassinating [=LaCroix=].]]



* BerserkButton: [[spoiler:He's furious against you once Lacroix get you to accuse Nines of having murdered Grout.]]

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* BerserkButton: [[spoiler:He's [[spoiler: He's furious against you once Lacroix [=LaCroix=] get you to accuse Nines of having murdered Grout.]]



** Also hates the Kuei-Jin and repeatedly emphasises that they're nothing like Kindred. Given that the Kuei-Jin are in the process of invading the Free State and probably killed several of his friends, this is somewhat justified.
* InformedAttribute: Him being a Gangrel is an AllThereInTheManual information; in-game, he is never seen using any Gangrel Discipline, doesn't show any animalistic mutations that comes packed with frenzies, nor does he ever mentions his lineage. In fact, many fans wrongly assumed he was a Brujah. [[FridgeBrilliance This shows us that he is really good at hiding his animalistic mutations.]] Masquerade is important, after all.

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** Also hates the Kuei-Jin and repeatedly emphasises emphasizes that they're nothing like Kindred. Given that the Kuei-Jin are in the process of invading the Free State and probably killed several of his friends, this is somewhat justified.
* InformedAttribute: Him being a Gangrel is an AllThereInTheManual information; in-game, he is never seen using any Gangrel Discipline, doesn't show any animalistic mutations that comes packed with frenzies, nor does he ever mentions his lineage. In fact, many fans wrongly assumed he was a Brujah. [[FridgeBrilliance This shows us that he is really good at hiding his animalistic mutations.]] Masquerade is important, after all.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: His introduction to you is nothing but insults for being [=LaCroix=]'s lackey, but he's rather helpful and informative about vampire lore once you get past them. [[spoiler:He's also much more welcoming toward the player in the Anarch ending.]]

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: His introduction to you is nothing but insults for being [=LaCroix=]'s lackey, but he's rather helpful and informative about vampire lore once you get past them. [[spoiler:He's [[spoiler: He's also much more welcoming toward the player in the Anarch ending.]]



* BeenThereShapedHistory: As a vampire with considerable ties to the inner workings of Hollywood, this is pretty much expected of him. He also has a very long list of famous directors and actors he's befriended and financed over the years, and still laughs at the fact that "some studio suit lost in time" once told him that the only thing that Creator/HumphreyBogart could be used for was [[ItWillNeverCatchOn moving furniture.]]

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* BeenThereShapedHistory: As a vampire with considerable ties to the inner workings of Hollywood, this is pretty much expected of him. He also has a very long list of famous directors and actors he's befriended and financed over the years, years and still laughs at the fact that "some studio suit lost in time" once told him that the only thing that Creator/HumphreyBogart could be used for was [[ItWillNeverCatchOn moving furniture.]]



* {{Foil}}: To Gary Golden. Both are or were heavily involved with the film industry. One is Camarilla and the other is Anarch. Despite being a Toreador, Isaac respects Gary, though partly because he knows never to fuck with a Nosferatu primogen. Ever. Gary on his end despises Toreadors.

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* {{Foil}}: To Gary Golden. Both are or were heavily involved with the film industry. One is Camarilla and the other is Anarch.Anarchy. Despite being a Toreador, Isaac respects Gary, though partly because he knows never to fuck with a Nosferatu primogen. Ever. Gary on his end despises Toreadors.



* {{Hypocrite}}: Makes some snide remarks about the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed [[AndIMustScream (or worse considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]] ''just like Lacroix has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Makes some snide remarks about the PlayerCharacter running [=LaCroix=]'s errands for him, then forces the player character to run ''his'' errands for ''him'', which eventually ends up sending you to a place that can get you killed [[AndIMustScream (or worse considering said place belongs to a Tzimisce]] ''just like Lacroix [=LaCroix=] has been doing to you''. He will, however, apologize for it if you get on his good side.



* NotSoDifferent: From [=LaCroix=]. From the moment you step into Hollywood, you're expected to lick his shoes and do as he says, akin to how [=LaCroix=] has been treating the PC since keeping him from being executed, and also sends him on suicide missions without giving any help. He also cites the Tradition of Domain by all but name, a Camarilla rule, and is equally vindictive towards the Camarilla as [=LaCroix=] is to the Anarchs.

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* NotSoDifferent: From [=LaCroix=]. From the moment you step into Hollywood, you're expected to lick his shoes and do as he says, akin to how [=LaCroix=] has been treating the PC since keeping him from being executed, executed and also sends him on suicide missions without giving any help. He also cites the Tradition of Domain by all but name, a Camarilla rule, and is equally vindictive towards the Camarilla as [=LaCroix=] is to the Anarchs.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: He has no love for the Camarilla, but he also has no problem helping you repeatedly during your quest, and supports a peaceful solution with the gargoyle problem [[ThePowerOfHate if only because it massively screws over the Camarilla in LA, especially if you tell him who the Gargoyle belonged to]].

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: He has no love for the Camarilla, but he also has no problem helping you repeatedly during your quest, quest and supports a peaceful solution with the gargoyle problem [[ThePowerOfHate if only because it massively screws over the Camarilla in LA, especially if you tell him who the Gargoyle belonged to]].



->''I didn't ask for this. I didn't ask for Isaac to save my life. Maybe I wanted to die. I was having fun, dammit! I was alive! Who the hell gave him the right to deny me that? I can't act any more. I canít love any more. All I can do now is... fade into obscurity.''

A former Hollywood star and Isaac's Childe, having been Embraced to save him from dying of a drug overdose. By the time you meet him, he's deeply tired of his vampiric unlife, and surrounded by vampire hunters, so it's up to you to save his life. [[spoiler:No matter what you do, he gets captured by the Society of Leopold later.]]

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->''I didn't ask for this. I didn't ask for Isaac to save my life. Maybe I wanted to die. I was having fun, dammit! I was alive! Who the hell gave him the right to deny me that? I can't act any more. anymore. I canít love any more.anymore. All I can do now is... fade into obscurity.''

A former Hollywood star and Isaac's Childe, having been Embraced to save him from dying of a drug overdose. By the time you meet him, he's deeply tired of his vampiric unlife, unlife and surrounded by vampire hunters, so it's up to you to save his life. [[spoiler:No matter what you do, he gets captured by the Society of Leopold later.]]



* BreakTheCutie: When you meet him [[spoiler:in the dungeons of the Society of Leopold's base, he's been tortured with fire several times]].

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* BreakTheCutie: When you meet him [[spoiler:in [[spoiler: in the dungeons of the Society of Leopold's base, he's been tortured with fire several times]].



* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler: No matter if you help him escape via sewers, body double, or not help at all, he gets captured by the Society of Leopold. This gets averted at the Society of Leopold base though, because you can choose whether to free him or not there.]]

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* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: [[spoiler: No matter if you help him escape via sewers, body double, or not help at all, he gets captured by the Society of Leopold. This gets averted at the Society of Leopold base though, though because you can choose whether to free him or not there.]]



* TheHermit: [[spoiler:What he decides to become after he's tortured and scarred by the Society of Leopold.]]

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* TheHermit: [[spoiler:What [[spoiler: What he decides to become after he's tortured and scarred by the Society of Leopold.]]


* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler:Quite possibly the biggest one in the entire game. By sending in an artifact rumored to contain a slumbering Antediluvian and setting everyone in L.A. against one another, he's responsible for setting the whole plot in motion.]]

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* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler:Quite possibly the biggest one in the entire game. By sending in an artifact rumored to contain a slumbering Antediluvian and setting everyone in L.A. against one another, he's responsible for setting the whole plot in motion. He only fails if the Neonate sides with Strauss, who just shoves it in a warehouse to be forgotten.]]



** If you play a Malkavian and chat with him at the Last Round often enough, [[spoiler: he'll express some alarm at just how much of his plan you seem to be clued into, and make it clear that if he thought you actually ''understood'' some of the things you're babbling about, he'd be [[ImpliedDeathThreat "talking to a pile of ash right now."]] ]]

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** If you play a Malkavian and chat with him at the Last Round often enough, [[spoiler: he'll express some alarm at just how much of his plan you seem to be clued into, and make makes it clear that if he thought you actually ''understood'' some of the things you're babbling about, he'd be [[ImpliedDeathThreat "talking to a pile of ash right now."]] ]]



* ObfuscatingStupidity: Oh, he has the homeless Brujah thug look down alright, but a single conversation with him displays he's actually quite intelligent. [[spoiler: In the end we discover he's been playing most everybody in the game for fools.]]

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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Oh, he has the homeless Brujah thug look down alright, but a single conversation with him displays he's actually quite intelligent. [[spoiler: In the end we discover he's been playing most everybody in the game for fools. Save Maximillian Strauss -- no matter what option the Fledgling takes, Strauss assumes control of the Camarilla -- and if the player sides with Strauss, Jack's plan fails, saving getting Lacroix murdered.]]

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