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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Subverted. Phil looks to be going down this route when he orders a bunch of porn from a delivery service, but it turns out he was looking to find Frank's business number among the ads.

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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Subverted. CaretakingIsFeminine: Phil looks to be going down this route when he orders a bunch of porn from a delivery service, but it turns out he was looking to find Frank's business number among is Earl Partridge's registered nurse and full-time caretaker. While Phil is male, he's also the ads.most sensitive character in the film and is instrumental in trying to fix the relationship between Earl and his son before Earl dies. His demeanor and mannerisms are quite androgynous (bordering on effeminate).

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* AbusiveParent: May have [[spoiler: molested his daughter Claudia.]]



* AbusiveParent: He just doesn't let up on poor Stanley.

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* AbusiveParent: AbusiveDad: He just doesn't let up on poor Stanley.
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* BreakTheCutie: No thanks in part to his father.

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* %%* BreakTheCutie: No thanks in part to his father.



* PottyFailure: [[spoiler:On live TV, no less.]]
* WiseBeyondTheirYears: Beyond being on a game show.

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* %%* PottyFailure: [[spoiler:On live TV, no less.]]
* %%* WiseBeyondTheirYears: Beyond being on a game show.



* CountryMatters: "Respect the cock! Tame the Cunt!"

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* %%* CountryMatters: "Respect the cock! Tame the Cunt!"



* HeManWomanHater: [[spoiler:Subverted.]]
* {{Jerkass}}: The persona he's built around himself.

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* %%* HeManWomanHater: [[spoiler:Subverted.]]
* %%* {{Jerkass}}: The persona he's built around himself.



* ParentalAbandonment: [[spoiler:By Earl.]]
* SenseiForScoundrels: See CountryMatters above.

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* %%* ParentalAbandonment: [[spoiler:By Earl.]]
* %%* SenseiForScoundrels: See CountryMatters above.



* AbusiveParent: [[spoiler:May have molested Claudia.]]

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* AbusiveParent: [[spoiler:May May have [[spoiler: molested his daughter Claudia.]]



* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:With Claudia, though he's not 100% sure about it.]]
* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler:He has the same cancer Earl does.]]

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* %%* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:With Claudia, though he's not 100% sure about it.]]
* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler:He He has the [[spoiler: same cancer Earl does.]]



* AbusiveParents: Financially abusive.
* ButtMonkey: With William H. Macy, this could only go this route.

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* %%* AbusiveParents: Financially abusive.
* %%* ButtMonkey: With William H. Macy, this could only go this route.



* StraightGay

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* %%* StraightGay



* ClusterFBomb: In the pharmacy.
* DrivenToSuicide: Out of guilt over her infidelity.

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* %%* ClusterFBomb: In the pharmacy.
* %%* DrivenToSuicide: Out of guilt over her infidelity.



* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler:With Earl.]]

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* %%* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler:With Earl.]]



* [[SirSwearsALot Miss Swears-A-Lot]]: Like most other characters in this movie.

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* [[SirSwearsALot Miss Swears-A-Lot]]: %%* SirSwearsALot: Like most other characters in this movie.



* HopeBringer: [[spoiler:May be one for Claudia.]]

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* %%* HopeBringer: [[spoiler:May be one for Claudia.]]



* MayDecemberRomance: With Linda.

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* %%* MayDecemberRomance: With Linda.



* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler:Jimmy. Maybe.]]
* BrokenBird: Poor Claudia has not had an easy life.
* FunctionalAddict: Well, barely functional.
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:At the hands of Jimmy. Possibly.]]
* RapeAsBackstory: Her possible backstory.

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* %%* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler:Jimmy. Maybe.]]
* %%* BrokenBird: Poor Claudia has not had an easy life.
* %%* FunctionalAddict: Well, barely functional.
* %%* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:At the hands of Jimmy. Possibly.]]
* %%* RapeAsBackstory: Her possible backstory.



* SpearCarrier

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* %%* SpearCarrier



* EducationMama: An unscrupulous example.
* {{Greed}}: His whole arc is dedicated to this.

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* %%* EducationMama: An unscrupulous example.
* %%* {{Greed}}: His whole arc is dedicated to this.



* {{Jerkass}}: Holy shit.
* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Disgustingly so.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Holy shit.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: She has a fondness for these.

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* %%* ArmorPiercingQuestion: She has a fondness for these.



* {{Jerkass}}: Solomon doesn't seem like the most pleasant boss...
* JerkassHasAPoint: ...but while he isn't remotely kind in his criticism of Donnie, he doesn't have much reason to hold onto an employee who's regularly late and can't make his sales quota.

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* %%* {{Jerkass}}: Solomon doesn't seem like the most pleasant boss...
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* JerkassHasAPoint: ...but while JerkassHasAPoint: While he isn't remotely kind in his criticism of Donnie, he doesn't have much reason to hold onto an employee who's regularly late and can't make his sales quota.



* RepetitiveName

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* RepetitiveNameRepetitiveName: His name is "Solomon" twice.

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* TheCharmer: He's very charismatic.

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* TheCharmer: He's very charismatic. A given considering [[Creator/TomCruise who he's played by.]]



* CardCarryingVillain: Downplayed but it seems that Rick knows he's abusive, even describing his actions as such to other parents, and doesn't seem too bothered by that fact, even trading tips with them on how to treat their kids in the same way.

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* CardCarryingVillain: Downplayed but it seems that Rick knows he's abusive, even describing his actions as such to other parents, and doesn't seem too at all bothered by that fact, even trading tips with them on how to treat their kids in the same way.



* HateSink: Most of the characters are too sympathetic or messed up to hate or have some redeeming traits. But Rick is just a reprehensible asshole the whole way through.

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* HateSink: Most of the characters are too sympathetic or messed up to hate or have some redeeming traits. But Rick is just a selfish, abusive, reprehensible asshole the whole way through.through.
* ItsAllAboutMe: He doesn't give a shit about Stanley beyond his own benefit and makes little to no effort to make him think otherwise.

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* AntagonisticOffspring: Does not have a positive opinion of his father and doesn't hesitate to tell him as much on his deathbed. Given what he did, it's hard to blame Frank for his behavior.



* TheAtoner: He deeply regrets abandoning his wife and son and wants to try and make things right before he dies.



* SirSwearsALot

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* SirSwearsALotScrewPolitenessImASenior: He isn't going to waste any of his few remaining days on good manners.
* SirSwearsALot: He seems determined to use his remaining time on earth to spout as many obscenities as possible.

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* HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: He's blonde and one of the nicest people in the film.



* TheAtoner: She feels immense guilt over marrying Earl for his money, even trying to get herself taken out of his will as a sort of punishment.



* RealMenLoveJesus: He's a Christian, even having a cross over his bed, and is seen praying in his opening scene.



* BrokenBird

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* BrokenBirdBrokenBird: Poor Claudia has not had an easy life.



* CardCarryingVillain: Downplayed but it seems that Rick knows he's abusive, even describing his actions as such to other parents, and doesn't seem too bothered by that fact.

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* CardCarryingVillain: Downplayed but it seems that Rick knows he's abusive, even describing his actions as such to other parents, and doesn't seem too bothered by that fact.fact, even trading tips with them on how to treat their kids in the same way.



* HateSink: Most of the characters are too sympathetic or messed up to hate or have some redeeming traits. But Rick is just an asshole the whole way through.

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* HateSink: Most of the characters are too sympathetic or messed up to hate or have some redeeming traits. But Rick is just an a reprehensible asshole the whole way through.


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* StageMom: He's pretty blatantly using Stanley for his own ends and barely even tries to cover that fact.


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* LargeHam: Alfred Molina was clearly determined to chew as much scenery as he could in his limited screentime.
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->'''Played By''': Creator/MeloraWaters

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->'''Played By''': Creator/MeloraWaters
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->'''Played By''': Jeremy Blackman

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->'''Played By''': Jeremy Blackman
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->'''Played By''': Philip Baker Hall & Creator/ThomasJane

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->'''Played By''': Philip Baker Hall Creator/PhilipBakerHall & Creator/ThomasJane



->'''Played By''': Jason Robards

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->'''Played By''': Jason Robards
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->'''Played By''': Melora Waters

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->'''Played By''': Melora Waters
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->'''Played By''': Melinda Dillon

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->'''Played By''': Melinda Dillon
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->'''Played By''': April Grace

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->'''Played By''': April Grace
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->'''Played By''': Henry Gibson

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->'''Played By''': Henry Gibson
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* MalMariee: She mentions that she slept with many men while being married to Earl.
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* YourCheatingHeart: She admits to having cheated on Earl many, many times.

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* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler:With Linda.]]

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* DaddyHadAGoodReasonForAbandoningYou: [[spoiler:Subverted. He didn't had a good reason to abandon Frank and his mother.]]
* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler:With With Linda.]]
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* {{Jerkass}}: Solomon doesn't seem like the most pleasant boss...
* JerkassHasAPoint: ...but while he isn't remotely kind in his criticism of Donnie, he doesn't have much reason to hold onto an employee who's regularly late and can't make his sales quota.
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* CardCarryingVillain: Downplayed but it seems that Rick knows he's abusive, even describing his actions as such to other parents, and doesn't seem too bothered by that fact.


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* HateSink: Most of the characters are too sympathetic or messed up to hate or have some redeeming traits. But Rick is just an asshole the whole way through.
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* TheCharmer: He's very charismatic.


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* EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas: Invoked in his interview where he claims that, despite his ideology, he's still close with his mother. [[spoiler: This may be a straight example as Frank did genuinely love his mother and see her die while his father did nothing had a serious effect on him]].


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* MrFanservice: Gets a brief scene in his underwear to show off his ripped physique.
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* PromotionToParent: Stanley, hurrying to get ready for school, reminds his father they're out of dog food: promptly--and almost imperceptibly--establishing which member of the Spector household is fully-engaged and responsible. In the green room--after the on-air meltdown of the show's host, and its brightest contestant--Daddy throws a tantrum (and a chair). Role reversal complete: as a parent, Rick has been [[DisappearedDad invisible]].

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* PromotionToParent: Stanley, hurrying to get ready for school, reminds his father they're out of dog food: promptly--and promptly -- and almost imperceptibly--establishing imperceptibly -- establishing which member of the Spector household is fully-engaged and responsible. In the green room--after room -- after the on-air meltdown of the show's host, and its brightest contestant--Daddy contestant -- Daddy throws a tantrum (and a chair). Role reversal complete: as a parent, Rick has been [[DisappearedDad invisible]].



* FreudianExcuse: [[spoiler:His father's abandonment, and the death of his mother molded him into the character we see in the film]]

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* FreudianExcuse: [[spoiler:His father's abandonment, and the death of his mother molded him into the character we see in the film]]film.]]



* AbusiveParent: [[spoiler: May have molested Claudia.]]
* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Can't actually recall whether he [[spoiler: sexually abused his daughter]], which (if so) altered her life from that point forward.
* [[DepravedKidsShowHost Depraved Family Game Show Host]]: Alcoholic, unfaithful, [[spoiler: and may have molested his daughter.]]
* InterruptedSuicide: [[spoiler: Attempts to take his own life after his wife finds out that he quite possibly molested their daughter. However, the rain of frogs that occurs during the end of the film causes him to misfire his gun.]]
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler: With Claudia, though he's not 100% sure about it.]]
* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler: he has the same cancer Earl does.]]

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* AbusiveParent: [[spoiler: May [[spoiler:May have molested Claudia.]]
* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Can't actually recall whether he [[spoiler: sexually [[spoiler:sexually abused his daughter]], which (if so) altered her life from that point forward.
* [[DepravedKidsShowHost Depraved Family Game Show Host]]: Alcoholic, unfaithful, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and may have molested his daughter.]]
daughter]].
* InterruptedSuicide: [[spoiler: Attempts [[spoiler:Attempts to take his own life after his wife finds out that he quite possibly molested their daughter. However, the rain of frogs that occurs during the end of the film causes him to misfire his gun.]]
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler: With [[spoiler:With Claudia, though he's not 100% sure about it.]]
* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:He has the same cancer Earl does.]]



* OnlySaneMan: Has to deal with caring for a dying man, the erratic mood of said man's wife, and tracking down the man's long lost son. In spite of this, he keeps it together.

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* OnlySaneMan: Has to deal with caring for a dying man, the erratic mood of said man's wife, and tracking down the man's long lost long-lost son. In spite of this, he keeps it together.



* BecomingTheMask: [[spoiler:She originally intended to marry Earl Patridge in order to gain his fortune after he died, but she eventually fell in love with him genuinely.]]

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* BecomingTheMask: [[spoiler:She originally intended to marry Earl Patridge [[GoldDigger in order to gain his fortune after he died, died]], but she eventually fell in love with him genuinely.]]



* GoldDigger: [[spoiler: Subverted. She initially married Earl for his money but then she genuinely fell in love with him to the extent that out of guilt she even tried to have his will changed so that she would no longer be his heir.]]

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* GoldDigger: [[spoiler: Subverted. [[spoiler:Subverted. She initially married Earl for his money money, but then she genuinely fell in love with him him, to the extent that that, out of guilt guilt, she even tried to have his will changed so that she would no longer be his heir.]]



* YourCheatingHeart: She admits to have cheated on Earl many, many times

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* YourCheatingHeart: She admits to have having cheated on Earl many, many timestimes.



* HopeBringer:[[spoiler: May be one for Claudia.]]

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* HopeBringer:[[spoiler: May HopeBringer: [[spoiler:May be one for Claudia.]]



* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: With Linda.]]

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* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: With [[spoiler:With Linda.]]



* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: Jimmy. Maybe.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: Jimmy.[[spoiler:Jimmy. Maybe.]]



* FunctionalAddict: Well, barely functional
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:At the hands of Jimmy.]]

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* FunctionalAddict: Well, barely functional
functional.
* ParentalIncest: [[spoiler:At the hands of Jimmy. Possibly.]]



* AdvertisedExtra: Even though she introduces herself in one of the trailers like the rest of the characters, she has a more peripheral role, on part with Solomon Solomon

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* AdvertisedExtra: Even though she introduces herself in one of the trailers like the rest of the characters, she has a more peripheral role, on part with Solomon SolomonSolomon.



* ArmorPiercingQuestion: She has a fondness for these.



* {{Foil}}: To Donny. Whereas Donny is a StraightGay naive, has an idealistic perspective on love crush on Brad the Bartener, Thurston is a somewhat CampGay cynic who uses money to get Brad's attention and sees the bartender as little more than a boy toy.

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* {{Foil}}: To Donny. Whereas Donny is a StraightGay StraightGay, naive, has an idealistic perspective on love love, and a genuine crush on Brad the Bartener, Thurston is a somewhat CampGay cynic who uses money to get Brad's attention and sees the bartender as little more than a boy toy.

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* PromotionToParent: Stanley, hurrying to get ready for school, reminds his father they're out of dog food: promptly--and almost imperceptibly--establishing which member of the Spector household is fully-engaged and responsible. In the green room--after the on-air meltdown of the show's host, and its brightest contestant--Daddy throws a tantrum (and a chair). Role reversal complete: as a parent, Rick has been [[DisappearedDad invisible]].



* {{Jerkass}}: The persona he's built around himself

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* {{Jerkass}}: The persona he's built around himselfhimself.



* ChildProdigy: Formerly. Now he's a ManChild



* FormerChildStar: A former Child Prodigy on a TV quiz show who developed into a ManChild and fell on hard times.



* GoldDigger: [[spoiler: Subverted.]]

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* DrivenToSuicide: Out of guilt over her infidelity.
* GoldDigger: [[spoiler: Subverted. She initially married Earl for his money but then she genuinely fell in love with him to the extent that out of guilt she even tried to have his will changed so that she would no longer be his heir.]]



* PrettyInMink: She appears in one in her first scene with the family lawyer.



* UglyGuyHotWife: Because of the age difference.

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* UglyGuyHotWife: Because An elderly and rather withered movie executive dying of the age difference.cancer married to a gorgeous trophy wife several decades younger than him.

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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Subverted. Phil looks to be going down this route when he orders a bunch of porn from a delivery service, but it turns out he was looking to find Frank's business number among the ads.



* YourCheatingHeart: She admits to have cheated on Earth many, many times

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* YourCheatingHeart: She admits to have cheated on Earth Earl many, many times

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