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* AmbiguousDisorder: Her lack of empathy and remorse, impulsivity, lack of regard for the lives of others, manipulation and aggression shown throughout the series most likely point to Marie having [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder Antisocial Personality Disorder]].
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Removing as there's no mention of an oath to be siblings.


* BloodBrothers: He once referred to his servant, Andre Legris, as his foster brother.
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* PeekABangs: Has one that covers his left eye as he grew up.



* PeekABangs: His hair is tied up aside from a long strand that covers the right side of his face.
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* AdaptationalBadass: A minor exemple. The real Sanson was known to be quite clumsy and incompetant according to many historians. (Jacque Delarue, Michel Desmorest, Edvard Radzinski and heck even the Memoirs of the Sanson make plenty of display of his clumsiness and lack of social skills. He did grow out of it, thankfully, albeit quite late in his life). In the manga, Charles-Henri has moderately good social skills (at least he doesn't get his dad's friends drunk just so he can talk to somebody, nor did he stalk a girl, than give her a boring lecture in an attempt to woe her), is a good swordsman and his execution skills are a lot better here and he grew out of his clumsier phase in his mid-twenties. Subverted when it comes to his intelligence. The real Sanson was able to figure out by himself that he should cut the tendons of Damien.

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* AdaptationalBadass: A minor exemple.bit of a zig zag. The real Sanson was known to be quite clumsy and incompetant according to many historians. (Jacque Delarue, Michel Desmorest, Edvard Radzinski and heck even the Memoirs of the Sanson make plenty of display of his clumsiness and lack of social skills. He did grow out of it, thankfully, albeit quite late in his life). In the manga, Charles-Henri has moderately good social skills (at least he doesn't get his dad's friends drunk just so he can talk to somebody, nor did he stalk a girl, than give her a boring lecture in an attempt to woe her), is a good swordsman and his execution skills are a lot better here and he grew out of his clumsier phase in his mid-twenties. Subverted when it comes to his intelligence. The real Sanson was able to figure out by himself that he should cut the tendons of Damien. However, he does not posses his historical self's talent to survive angry mobs, somehow still alive despite that.



* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Charles becomes very much like Jean-Baptiste regarding his desire to uphold family traditions, which occurs right after having his first sexual encounter with [[spoiler: the future Madame du Barry]]. This is also shown when Charles uses the brodequin on his 3-year old son, Henri, for merely breaking the rule of never entering the torture room. Charles, like Jean-Baptiste, also is disappointed whenever his sons exhibit fear and disgust at being an executioner.

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* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Charles becomes very much like Jean-Baptiste regarding his desire to uphold family traditions, which occurs right after having his first sexual encounter with [[spoiler: the future Madame du Barry]]. This is also shown when Charles uses the brodequin on his 3-year old son, Henri, for merely breaking the rule of never entering the torture room. Charles, like Jean-Baptiste, also is disappointed whenever his sons exhibit fear and disgust at being an executioner. Unlike his father, Charles-Henri is shown to be more sadistic and sneaky, prefering ruse to brute force.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: Maybe it is all thanks to him being a very minor character with not a lot of story shown, but the real Martin became a HangingJudge on top of his job as executioner(and of course, he arranged the verdict to his benefit) during the Revolution, or mostly was pushed by his wife into this position. Here in the manga he is shown as a devoted son and brother, if a slightly creepy one. Although, look at WouldHurtAChild down below.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Maybe it is all thanks to him being a very minor character with not a lot of story shown, but the real Martin became tried to become a HangingJudge on top of his job as executioner(and of course, he arranged the verdict to his benefit) during the Revolution, or mostly was pushed by his wife into this position. Here in the manga he is shown as a devoted son and brother, if a slightly creepy one. Although, look at WouldHurtAChild down below.
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* YouGotSpunk: This is his responses after being quickly punched in the face by Marie after [[LecherousLicking licking the back of her hand]]. Of course, he quickly claims to Charles-Henri that he wanted to confirm Marie that Marie possessed the vigor of an executioner.
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* BuxomIsBetter: She has a prominent bust that appears to be on the verge of slipping from her bodice. As it turns out, [[spoiler: this was a way to tempt Charles into sleeping with her]].

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* BuxomIsBetter: BuxomBeautyStandard: She has a prominent bust that appears to be on the verge of slipping from her bodice. As it turns out, [[spoiler: this was a way to tempt Charles into sleeping with her]].



* BuxomIsBetter: Her large chest is considered her best quality, especially by Louis XV. His dying words to her are, "Adieu, Boobies."

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* BuxomIsBetter: BuxomBeautyStandard: Her large chest is considered her best quality, especially by Louis XV. His dying words to her are, "Adieu, Boobies."
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* CharacterDevelopment: He is introduced as a meek and sensitive boy who hates the fact that his family's profession causes him to be shunned and ostracized by the rest of french society. Gradually however he comes to accept his role as Monsieur de Paris and develops a much more confident, masculine and patriarchal attitude as the head of the Sanson family, not dissimilar from his father.
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* NiceHat: Zero wears a top hat when they [[spoiler: prepare to leave by the manga's end]].
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* AdaptationalSexuality: In spite of numerous salacious rumors spread by her political enemies and the French public to disparage her reputation, there is not proof in real life that Marie Antoinette engaged in affairs with women, and, in fact, her only confirmed affair is the one she had with (the male) Count Axel von Fersen. In this story, she begins an affair (at the age of ''14'') with [[spoiler: Marie]].
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* CoolHat
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[[folder:Nicolas-Gabriel [[folder:Nicolas-Charles-Gabriel Sanson]]
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* SiblingRivalry: Wants to obtain his brother's position as head executioner of Paris. Fails miserably.
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* {{Meganekko}}: She wore glasses back when she was a nun, and stopped using them as she got older.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: Maybe it is all thanks to him being a very minor character with not a lot of story shown, but the real Martin became a Hanging Judge during the Revolution, or mostly was pushed by his wife into this position. Although, look at WouldHurtAChild down below.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Maybe it is all thanks to him being a very minor character with not a lot of story shown, but the real Martin became a Hanging Judge HangingJudge on top of his job as executioner(and of course, he arranged the verdict to his benefit) during the Revolution, or mostly was pushed by his wife into this position.position. Here in the manga he is shown as a devoted son and brother, if a slightly creepy one. Although, look at WouldHurtAChild down below.
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*AdaptationalHeroism: Downplayed, since he isn't really devellopped as a character, but his real life counter part married and had children with his own niece. (Even by XVIII century standards, it was considered pretty disgusting behavior).
*AdaptationalVillainy: [[spoiler: He tries to kill his own sister Marie.]] His RealLife counterpart was a diplomat who defended the interests of his colleagues who were threatened by the reforms of the French Revolution, and allowed the son from his second marriage to embrace the profession of locksmith and did his best to financially support him after the buisness failed due to his lineage of infamy.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: A minor exemple. The man presented in the "Mémoires", as well as historical evidence suggest that Jean-Baptiste was a very callous, apathetic and hardened man, who thought it was fine to use the lack of resistence of a convinct as an occasion to give his clumsy son some handiwork practice. His manga adaptation make his true self look like a saint. In Innocent, Jean-Baptiste torture's Charles (although he has several motives to do so, none of them being selfish or sadistic), is emotionally abusive to his oldest son to a point that is disturbing even taking the time period into consideration. Oh, and he has all the vices of his historical counter part.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: A minor exemple. The man presented in the "Mémoires", "Memoires", as well as historical evidence suggest that Jean-Baptiste was a very callous, apathetic and hardened man, who thought it with a generous yet strict personality. Some historians also speculate that he had a harsh personality and was fine quite cruel to use the lack of resistence of a convinct as an occasion convicts (for exemple, using them to give let his clumsy eldest son some handiwork practice. His manga adaptation make his true self look like a saint. In Innocent, Jean-Baptiste torture's Charles (although he has several motives to do so, none of them being selfish or sadistic), is emotionally handy work). However, in "Innocent", he's very much physically abusive to his oldest son boy to a the point that of near death (although his motives to do so are almost noble) and the level of psychological abuse he puts Charles' through is disturbing disturbing, even taking for the time period into consideration. period. Oh, and he has all the vices of his historical counter part.book counterpart.

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[[folder: Jean de Chartois]]
The son of count de Chartois and Charles' first victim.
*AdaptationalNameChange: The "comte de Charolais" was changed to "Chartois"
*RapeAsBackstory: His father sleeps with him and whores him out to other aristocrats.
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* SkirtOverSlacks: For Zero's outfit [[spoiler: as they leave for a journey]], they switch out tights for a pair of white flared pants
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* BeautyMark: Has one under her right eye.
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* AdaptationalBadass: He's actually shown to be able to fight against Jacques in Innocent Musicale.
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* [[spoilerTheVamp]]: Marguerite is revealed to be more like this by the end of the "Memoire des Sanson" arc.

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* [[spoilerTheVamp]]: [[spoiler:TheVamp]]: Marguerite is revealed to be more like this by the end of the "Memoire des Sanson" arc.

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* DoesNotLikeMen: Corday comes to believe that only women should be the ones to lead political affairs, after she realized that her lover was backing out of serving the revolution.



* LadyLand: Corday's "Eden" is presented as a courtroom filled with women, young and old, and young children.



* Matriarchy: Corday's "Eden" is this of the enlightened kind, where children to the elderly are allowed to voice their opinions.

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* Matriarchy: Corday's "Eden" is this of the enlightened kind, where children to the elderly are allowed to voice their opinions. See also LadyLand.
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* CrucifiedHeroShot: In the music video, Marie, played by Nakashima Mika, is first shown in this pose on a cross covered in blue roses.

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* CrucifiedHeroShot: In the music video, Marie, played by Nakashima Mika, is first shown in this pose on a cross covered in blue roses. The description for [[https://mangaart.jp/works/IR_RC_002_A1 this image of Marie]], made for a fashion exhibition, mentions how her pose is reminiscent of a crucifixion.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite his attempt to tie his sister down by having her married and quite her job, he was right that her actions of [[spoiler: having a sexual affair with the 14 year old Dauphine]] were putting a strain with the alliance with France and Austria.



* CallingParentsByTheirName: Zero always speak to Marie, their mother, on a FirstNameBasis.

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* CallingParentsByTheirName: Zero always speak to Marie, their mother, on a FirstNameBasis. This is in contrast with Jean-Louis, [[spoiler: whom Zero lovingly refers to him as "Papa" at the end of Rouge, before setting off on their journey]].

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* ItsAllAboutMe: This mindset is made apparent during the end of Innocent, with Marie only caring about trying to obtain freedom, trying to separate herself from the Sansons, and her job as Prevote de L'Hotel. She gets better, somewhat.



* TheUnapologetic: Marie never once apologizes towards any of the things that she did, in contrast to Charles who, at least in the beginning, ApologizesALot.

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* TheUnapologetic: Marie never once apologizes towards any of the things that she did, in contrast to Charles who, at least in the beginning, ApologizesALot. This is especially infuriating during the Red Versailles arc where Marie [[spoiler: has a sexual relationship with Marie Antoinette]], which almost ends the marriage alliance because of Antoinette's refusal to acknowledge DuBarry.
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* [[spoiler: Bus Crash]]: In the final chapter of Innocent Rouge, Marie is revealed [[spoiler: to have died from an illness offscreen]]. Her [[spoiler: death]] overlaps with [[spoiler: DroppedABridgeOnHim]].

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* [[spoiler: Bus Crash]]: BusCrash: In the final chapter of Innocent Rouge, ''Innocent Rouge'', Marie is revealed [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to have died from an illness offscreen]]. Her [[spoiler: death]] overlaps with [[spoiler: DroppedABridgeOnHim]].offscreen]].
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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Griffin is a combination of Victor François de Broglie, 2nd duc de Broglie, and Thomas Arthur Lally-Tollendal.

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