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* AtopAMountainOfCorpses: At the end of the Battle Camlann, right before she is summoned to the Holy Grail War.

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* AtopAMountainOfCorpses: At the end of the Battle of Camlann, right before she is summoned to the Holy Grail War.



* CallToAgriculture: Subverted. In her vacation/afterlife, she plans to build a vegetable garden and raise delicious animals...but this is motivated by her desire to enjoy otherwise-expensive foods, rather than any fondness for rural life.



* MundaneLuxury: Having lived in a time when civilization had to be carved out with magic and steel, she is awestruck [[note]]perhaps inaccurately, since even pre-Arthur Britain [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Baths_(Bath) had bathhouses]] [[/note]] by the concept of an artificial pool complex built solely for recreation.



* MythicalMotifs: During her lifetime as Myth/KingArthur, she was also associated with dragons. The anime, manga, and Realta Nua versions takes advantage of this by featuring a dragon as the manifestation of her magic circuits.

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* MythicalMotifs: During her lifetime as Myth/KingArthur, she was also associated with dragons. The anime, manga, and Realta Nua versions takes advantage of this by featuring a dragon as the manifestation of her magic circuits.



* ToughLeaderFacade: Aided by a GenderBender illusion cast by Merlin, Saber was the ruler of her people and buried all her emotions and true desires to be the perfect monarch. Unfortunately, it worked ''too'' well, and a rebellion rose up against Saber because some saw her as an inhuman demon that doesn't care for her people.

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* ToughLeaderFacade: Aided by a GenderBender illusion cast by Merlin, Saber was the ruler of her people and buried all her emotions and true desires to be the perfect monarch. Unfortunately, it worked ''too'' well, and a rebellion rose up against Saber because some saw her as an inhuman demon that doesn't didn't care for her people.



* WhenSheSmiles: There are certain [=CGs=] towards the end of ''Fate'' where she truly gives a loving smile.
* WorfHadTheFlu: In her prime, Altria Pendragon was feared as a god of war and possessed power almost equal to [[SemiDivine Gilgamesh]]'s own living incarnation -- owing to her draconic heritage and arsenal of divine weapons. As a Saber-class Servant, she is restricted to just Excalibur and -- while lauded as the most powerful Saber-class Servant -- never gets a full showing of her abilities in ''Fate/stay night'' or even ''Fate/Zero''.[[note]]She's consistently hampered by a combination of being summoned by Masters that don't mesh with her personality, incompetent Masters that can't provide her with enough Prana, Masters who she's simply incompatible with, shock at the true identity of her opponent, not having her most powerful Noble Phantasms, as well as injuries that don't heal nigh-constantly impeding her.[[/note]] This doesn't mean she can't kick plenty of ass regardless, but it's only in the "Unlimited Blade Works" route, with Rin Tohsaka as her Master, that she's able to come close to the power she possessed at her prime since she still doesn't have [[HealingFactor Avalon]]... and even then she doesn't really get a chance to really show off what she can do, since Gilgamesh is still a threat that without Avalon, Shirou is the one needing to fight him. In various spinoffs where she doesn't have these issues, Altria is constantly shown to be a top tier Servant.
* WorthyOpponent: Assassin considers her to be this. If not for the fact that she is a woman, Gilgamesh also seems to treat her as one at first, but it turns out he doesn't really care what she thinks and considers her far beneath him. Just not as far beneath him as some of the other mongrels.
* YouLoseAtZeroTrust: One of the bad endings has Saber immediately kill Shirou when told she can have the Holy Grail if she does so, and requires the player to have a rock-bottom relationship score with her.

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* WhenSheSmiles: There are certain [=CGs=] towards the end of ''Fate'' where in which she truly gives a loving smile.
* WorfHadTheFlu: In her prime, Altria Pendragon was feared as a god of war and possessed power almost equal to [[SemiDivine Gilgamesh]]'s own living incarnation -- owing to her draconic heritage and arsenal of divine weapons. As a Saber-class Servant, she is restricted to just Excalibur and -- while lauded as the most powerful Saber-class Servant -- never gets a full showing of her abilities in ''Fate/stay night'' or even ''Fate/Zero''.[[note]]She's consistently hampered by a combination of being summoned by Masters that don't mesh with her personality, incompetent Masters that can't provide her with enough Prana, Masters who she's simply incompatible with, shock at the true identity of her opponent, not having her most powerful Noble Phantasms, as well as injuries that don't heal nigh-constantly impeding her.[[/note]] This doesn't mean she can't kick plenty of ass regardless, but it's only in the "Unlimited Blade Works" route, with Rin Tohsaka as her Master, that she's able to come close to the power she possessed at her prime since she still doesn't have [[HealingFactor Avalon]]... and even then she doesn't really get a chance to really show off what she can do, since Gilgamesh is still enough of a threat that without Avalon, Shirou is Shirou's specialized powers mean he's the one needing who has to fight him. In various spinoffs where she doesn't have these issues, Altria is constantly shown to be a top tier Servant.
* WorthyOpponent: Assassin considers her to be this. If not for the fact that she is a woman, Gilgamesh also seems to treat her as one at first, but it turns out he doesn't really care what she thinks and considers her far beneath him. Just not as far beneath him as some of the other mongrels.
* YouLoseAtZeroTrust: One of the bad endings has Saber immediately kill Shirou when told she can have the Holy Grail if she does so, and so. It requires the player to have a rock-bottom relationship score with her.her.
* YouWereTryingTooHard: The main problem with teaching her swimming. Although she's very athletic, she instinctively tries to fight the water rather than let it hold her up, and is irrationally scared that floating won't work.



* SmugSmiler: In ''Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel'', Saber Alter smirks as the tells her uncorrupted self she should know who she is at a glance.

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* SmugSmiler: In ''Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel'', Saber Alter smirks as the she tells her uncorrupted self she should know who she is at a glance.


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* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Burgers, "the king of junk food". In contrast, her ordinary self has no favorite food.

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* FatalFlaw: Pride, especially the sort that makes her perceive criticism where none exists. She can't admit that she likes food for its own sake (instead justifying it as ''gaining nutrients") or accept her student learning from other teachers. Basically, she's accustomed to the privileges of being a king, as shown by her comical surprise when her attempt to make peace between Rider and Caster backfires.



* FatalFlaw: Her selflessness was her downfall in life. As King Arthur, she chose to become her ideal of the perfect monarch, ruling [[TheStoic without surrendering to her emotions]] and [[TheNeedsOfTheMany taking every action possible for the good and safety of her kingdom]]. However her perfectly just rule and emotional distance from the people led to many feeling she was in some way inhuman. This in turn led to the civil war started by Mordred, the "[[SamusIsAGirl son]]" created by Morgan le Fay [[IHaveNoSon whose love she rejected]] and [[LoveMakesYouEvil subsequently allowed to turn to hate]], and her death.

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Her selflessness was her downfall in life. As King Arthur, she chose to become her ideal of the perfect monarch, ruling [[TheStoic without surrendering to her emotions]] and [[TheNeedsOfTheMany taking every action possible for the good and safety of her kingdom]]. However her perfectly just rule and emotional distance from the people led to many feeling she was in some way inhuman. This in turn led to the civil war started by Mordred, the "[[SamusIsAGirl son]]" created by Morgan le Fay [[IHaveNoSon whose love she rejected]] and [[LoveMakesYouEvil subsequently allowed to turn to hate]], and her death.death.
** Pride, especially the sort that makes her perceive criticism where none exists. She can't admit that she likes food for its own sake (instead justifying it as ''gaining nutrients") or accept her student learning from other teachers. Basically, she's accustomed to the privileges of being a king, as shown by her comical surprise when her attempt to make peace between Rider and Caster backfires.

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* FatalFlaw: Pride, especially the sort that makes her perceive criticism where none exists. She can't admit that she likes food for its own sake (instead justifying it as ''gaining nutrients") or accept her student learning from other teachers. Basically, she's accustomed to the privileges of being a king, as shown by her comical surprise when her attempt to make peace between Rider and Caster backfires.



* FanservicePack: In the original ''Fate/stay night'' visual novel, ''Fate/hollow ataraxia'', and the ''Fate/Extella'' games, Saber is depicted as being petite to the point of almost being flat-chested -- facilitating her ability to disguise herself as a boy. In other later works such as ''Fate/Grand Order'', the ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'' adaptation, and the ''Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel'' trilogy, she is depicted as [[AdaptationalCurves being significantly bustier, taller, and curvier than she was originally]].
* FashionableAsymmetry: Surprisingly realistic example, despite sporting a BattleBallgown: her left-hand gauntlet is far more heavily armored than her right, fitting for armor on one's off-hand.
* FatalFlaw: Her selflessness was her downfall in life. As King Arthur, she chose to become her ideal of the perfect monarch, ruling [[TheStoic without surrendering to her emotions]] and [[TheNeedsOfTheMany taking every action possible for the good and safety of her kingdom]]. However her perfectly just rule and emotional distance from the people led to many feeling she was in some way inhuman. This in turn led to civil war started by Mordred, the "[[SamusIsAGirl son]]" created by Morgan le Fay [[IHaveNoSon whose love she rejected]] and [[LoveMakesYouEvil subsequently allowed to turn to hate]], and her death.
* TheFettered: Believes in traditional knightly values and will not do anything she considers dishonourable even if her existence is in danger. She warns Shirou that if he would have her attack humans for energy, he would have to use a Command Spell for stepping on her pride. [[SubvertedTrope That saying]], she has no problem with killing Masters who have already been defeated or have lost their Servants either, as both Rin and Illya nearly attest to.

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* FanservicePack: In the original ''Fate/stay night'' visual novel, ''Fate/hollow ataraxia'', and the ''Fate/Extella'' games, Saber is depicted as being petite to the point of almost being flat-chested -- facilitating her ability to disguise herself as a boy. In other later works such as ''Fate/Grand Order'', the ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'' adaptation, and the ''Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel'' trilogy, she is depicted as [[AdaptationalCurves being significantly bustier, taller, taller and curvier than she was originally]].
* FashionableAsymmetry: Surprisingly realistic example, despite sporting a BattleBallgown: example; her left-hand left gauntlet is far more heavily armored than her right, fitting for armor on one's off-hand.
* FatalFlaw: Her selflessness was her downfall in life. As King Arthur, she chose to become her ideal of the perfect monarch, ruling [[TheStoic without surrendering to her emotions]] and [[TheNeedsOfTheMany taking every action possible for the good and safety of her kingdom]]. However her perfectly just rule and emotional distance from the people led to many feeling she was in some way inhuman. This in turn led to the civil war started by Mordred, the "[[SamusIsAGirl son]]" created by Morgan le Fay [[IHaveNoSon whose love she rejected]] and [[LoveMakesYouEvil subsequently allowed to turn to hate]], and her death.
* TheFettered: Believes in traditional knightly values and will not do anything she considers dishonourable even if her existence is in danger. She warns Shirou that if he would have make her attack humans for energy, he would have to use a Command Spell for stepping on her pride.to do it. [[SubvertedTrope That saying]], she has no problem with killing Masters who have already been defeated or have lost their Servants either, as both Rin and Illya nearly attest to.



* MythicalMotifs During her lifetime as Myth/KingArthur, she was also associated with dragons. The anime, manga, and Realta Nua versions takes advantage of this by featuring a dragon as the manifestation of her magic circuits.
* NeverASelfMadeWoman: 95% of Saber's amazing feats in life, down to her supposedly hereditary Dragon Blood, can be traced back to [[TheArchmage Merlin]]. Without [[AllThereInTheManual the "Dragon Generator" being implanted into her body by him]], Saber would be little more than the weak, fragile-as-a-bundle-of-twigs girl that remained after she uses Excalibur on Rider. However Saber is physically fragile because Caliburn stopped her aging in her mid-teens before she could fully mature, Saber deserves credit for still doing things as best as she could.
* NiceGirl: Well not initially at the beginning of the VN and the anime as she was introduced as calm and stoic but as Shirou and Rin especially in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' route spends time with her, they eventually understands that behind her cold facade, she's a kind and warm girl who wants to help everyone as her defining act of selflessness.

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* MythicalMotifs MythicalMotifs: During her lifetime as Myth/KingArthur, she was also associated with dragons. The anime, manga, and Realta Nua versions takes advantage of this by featuring a dragon as the manifestation of her magic circuits.
* NeverASelfMadeWoman: 95% of Saber's amazing feats in life, down to physical feats, even her supposedly hereditary Dragon Blood, can be traced back to [[TheArchmage Merlin]]. Without [[AllThereInTheManual the "Dragon Generator" being he implanted into her body by him]], body]], Saber would be little more than the weak, fragile-as-a-bundle-of-twigs girl almost as weak as your average fifteen-year-old girl, having been frozen at that remained after she uses Excalibur on Rider. However Saber is physically fragile because Caliburn stopped age by Caliburn. Her charisma and determination, however, are all her aging in her mid-teens before she could fully mature, Saber deserves credit for still doing things as best as she could.
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* NiceGirl: Well not initially at the beginning of the VN and the anime as she was introduced as calm and stoic but as As Shirou and Rin especially in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' route spends spend time with her, they eventually understands understand that behind her cold facade, she's a kind and warm girl who wants to help everyone as her defining act of selflessness.everyone.


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* SubmissiveBadass: She readily accepts her Master's lack of competence, saying that if he has no chance of victory, she will carve him one. That said, her definition of 'submissive' includes waking him up so he'll make breakfast.
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* GateGuardian: At the end of "Heaven's Feel", Saber Alter serves this role. Dark Sakura and Zouken task her with guarding the cave where Aŋra Mainiiu's resurrection is taking place. She lets Rin pass to confront her sister because that's what Sakura wants to, but challenges Shirou to a duel to the death.

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* GateGuardian: At the end of "Heaven's Feel", ''Heaven's Feel'', Saber Alter serves this role. Dark Sakura and Zouken task her with guarding the cave where Aŋra Mainiiu's resurrection is taking place. She lets Rin pass to confront her sister because that's what Sakura wants to, wants, but challenges Shirou to a duel to the death.
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Saber Alter is the corrupted version of Saber, who becomes a minor antagonist in the "Heaven's Feel" route. She is exposed to "All The Evils of The World" through contact with the Shadow, stripping her of her free will and transforming her into an apathetic puppet of Aŋra Mainiiu. Her stats are greatly boosted in this form, leading some to call her "the strongest Servant".

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Saber Alter is the corrupted version of Saber, who becomes a minor antagonist in the "Heaven's Feel" ''Heaven's Feel'' route. She is exposed to "All The Evils of The World" through contact with the Shadow, stripping her of her free will and transforming her into an apathetic puppet of Aŋra Mainiiu. Her stats are greatly boosted in this form, leading some to call her "the strongest Servant".



* BaitAndSwitch: Once Shirou corners her and is on the verge of delivering the coup de grace, she says his name in a daze and you get the choice to salvage and save her. It doesn't end well if you take that option.

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* BaitAndSwitch: Once Shirou corners her and is on the verge of delivering the coup de grace, she says his name in a daze and you get the choice to salvage and save spare her. It doesn't end well if you take that option.
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[[WMG:[[center: [- ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' '''[[Characters/FateStayNight Main Character Index]]''' | [[Characters/FateStayNightHumans Humans]] ([[Characters/FateStayNightShirouEmiya Shirou Emiya]], [[Characters/FateStayNightRinTohsaka Rin Tohsaka]], [[Characters/FateStayNightSakuraMatou Sakura Matou]], [[Characters/FateStayNightKireiKotomine Kirei Kotomine]]) | [[Characters/FateStayNightServants Servants]] ('''Saber''', [[Characters/FateStayNightGilgamesh Archer 2]]) -]]]]]


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[[WMG:[[center: [- ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' '''[[Characters/FateStayNight Main Character Index]]''' | [[Characters/FateStayNightHumans Humans]] ([[Characters/FateStayNightShirouEmiya Shirou Emiya]], [[Characters/FateStayNightRinTohsaka Rin Tohsaka]], [[Characters/FateStayNightSakuraMatou Sakura Matou]], [[Characters/FateStayNightKireiKotomine Kirei Kotomine]]) | [[Characters/FateStayNightServants Servants]] ('''Saber''', [[Characters/FateStayNightArcher Archer]], [[Characters/FateStayNightGilgamesh Archer 2]]) -]]]]]

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* ConfusionFu: Her InUniverse justification for the Invisible Air, so that her opponents don't know what her weapon is, as a whole load of people, especially from anything remotely like her time, would recognize it instantly, putting her at a disadvantage.

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* ConfusionFu: Her InUniverse justification for the Invisible Air, so that Air makes her opponents don't know what her weapon is, as a whole load of people, especially from anything remotely like her time, would recognize sword invisible, making it instantly, putting her at a disadvantage.nearly impossible for the opponent to judge its length.
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* {{Flanderization}}: Saber's [[BigEater appetite]]. In the original Visual Novel, while she's portrayed as clearly being highly fond of Shirou's cooking, she was never noted to eat overmuch, with the Anime turning her into one to more easily convey the former. It's since become one of her two primary character traits along with her more conventional [[LadyOfWar knightly nobility]], and the one that's most often used to differentiate her from her [[FountainOfExpies clones.]]

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* {{Flanderization}}: Saber's [[BigEater appetite]]. In love of eating. It already begins within the original Visual Novel, visual novel; since her time to shine was ''Fate'', in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' her character goes mostly unexamined, and she becomes a bit of a comic relief character with how often she asks Shirou about their next meal. And while she's portrayed as she would typically ask for extra servings, she clearly being highly fond of Shirou's cooking, she was never noted wasn't a ''glutton''. The 2006 anime, meanwhile, shows her [[BigEater taking larger portions than everyone else]], probably to visually adapt her loving to eat overmuch, with the Anime turning her into one to more easily convey the former. in an adaptation without narration. It's since become one of her two primary character traits along with her more conventional [[LadyOfWar knightly nobility]], and the one that's most often used to differentiate her from her [[FountainOfExpies clones.]]clones]].
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* TranquilFury: PlayedForLaughs. You ''know'' that Shirou has managed to piss her off if she shows up to their daily sparring sessions smiling, happy... and wearing her armor. Cue ass-kicking.

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* TranquilFury: PlayedForLaughs. You ''know'' that Shirou has managed to piss her off if she shows up to their daily sparring sessions smiling, happy... and wearing her armor. Cue ass-kicking.She also has a version of her neutral sprite maintaining the poker face but adding a [[CrossPoppingVeins Cross-Popping Vein]].

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* InconsistentTranslation: ''[[AllThereInTheManual Fate/complete material]]'', the Japanese website of ''VideoGame/FateExtellaTheUmbralStar'', and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' give the official romanization for her name アルトリア ''(Arutoria)'' as Altria. However, other official works, like ''Fate/Complete Material III'', the English version of ''Fate/Extella'' and its sequel, and even the localized version of ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood Type Lumina'' -- at least until it was changed to "Altria" in a patch -- romanize it as Artoria. When discussing the localization of ''Fate/Grand Order'' at Aniplex USA, Type-Moon stated that the official English translation of her name is Altria, not Artoria, though they themselves point out that they haven't exactly been consistent with that even on their end. The localization team for ''Fate/Grand Order'' had to clarify they ''wanted'' to use Artoria, but were firmly ordered to use Altria, to their annoyance, though they snuck in a bit of snark by changing one of her English bio's lines to read that her name is a corruption of the feminine version of Artorius rather than just saying it's the feminine version of Artorius.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: ''[[AllThereInTheManual Fate/complete material]]'', the Japanese website of ''VideoGame/FateExtellaTheUmbralStar'', and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' give the official romanization for her name アルトリア ''(Arutoria)'' as Altria. However, other official works, like ''Fate/Complete Material III'', the English version of ''Fate/Extella'' and its sequel, and even the localized version of ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood Type Lumina'' -- at least until it was changed to "Altria" in a patch -- romanize it as Artoria. When discussing the localization of ''Fate/Grand Order'' at Aniplex USA, Type-Moon stated that the official English translation of her name is Altria, not Artoria, though they themselves point out that they haven't exactly been consistent with that even on their end. The localization team for ''Fate/Grand Order'' had to clarify they ''wanted'' to use Artoria, but were firmly ordered to use Altria, to their annoyance, though they have snuck in a bit of snark by changing one of her English bio's lines to read that her name is a corruption of the feminine version of Artorius rather than just saying it's the feminine version of Artorius.

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