Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseBlackfyre

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* StopBeingStereotypical: The Blackfyres were a Cadet Branch of legitimized bastards, and despite the fact that their ArchEnemy Bloodraven was another bastard, they later became Exhibit A for the stigma perceiving bastards as resentful, untrustworthy, grabby for power, and should never be given the slightest consideration over trueborn children. Catelyn invokes them in an attempt to stop Robb Stark from naming his [[HeroicBastard half-brother]] Jon Snow as his heir.

to:

* StopBeingStereotypical: The Blackfyres were a Cadet Branch of legitimized bastards, and despite the fact that their ArchEnemy Bloodraven was another bastard, they later became Exhibit A for the stigma perceiving bastards as resentful, untrustworthy, grabby for power, and should never to be given the slightest consideration over trueborn children. Catelyn invokes them in an attempt to stop Robb Stark from naming his [[HeroicBastard half-brother]] Jon Snow as his heir.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

->''Aegon the Fourth legitimized all his bastards on his deathbed. And how much pain, grief, war and murder grew from that?''
-> --'''Catelyn Stark'''

Added: 244

Removed: 118

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)


* RememberTheNewGuy: Despite their importance to Westerosi history they're not mentioned once in the first two books.


Added DiffLines:

* MultipleChoicePast: The reasons for his rebellion. Anti-Blackfyres claim that he resented being illegitimate and that he was persuaded by sycophants. Pro-Blackfyres claim that Daeron II was manipulated by his Dornish lackeys to arrest Daemon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* RenegadeSplinterFaction: Blackfyres are just Targaryens with the serial numbers filed off.

Added: 366

Removed: 167

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)


->''"Maelys thought that he had a claim to the Iron Throne thanks to his Targaryen blood. I made sure that all his blood claimed was the dirt around his corpse."''
->-- '''Ser Barristan Selmy''' (Game of Thrones History & Lore season 5, "Robert's Rebellion")



* AllThereInTheManual: Though mentioned several times in the main series, there is information about him that can only be found in ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire''.


Added DiffLines:

* LongDeadBadass: Infamous for his strength. His and his twin's skull's are still kept by the Golden Company.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
added example(s)

Added DiffLines:

* LongDeadBadass: Seen as the greatest warrior of his time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheMillstone: This guy probably harmed the Blackfyre cause far more than anyone short of Bloodraven. The period immediately after the Great Spring Sickness was the most favorable opportunity possible to start another rebellion, with Baelor Breakspear dead, Maekar disgruntled with the Throne, Aerys I burying himself in books, most of the hostages keeping the Blackfyre loyalists in line dead and the Iron Islands rebelling. However, rather than letting Bittersteel and the Golden Company handle the matter, Daemon II went off on his own to start a rebellion without their approval, hedging everything on a supposed prophetic dream that he would hatch a dragon. When that plan failed miserably, not only did loads of Blackfyre loyalists he rallied to his cause die, but his capture also meant that Bittersteel couldn't crown someone else to start another rebellion for several years, squandering this precious window of opportunity in the process.

to:

* TheMillstone: This guy probably harmed the Blackfyre cause far more than anyone short of Bloodraven. The period immediately after the Great Spring Sickness was noted in-universe to be the most favorable opportunity possible to start another rebellion, with Baelor Breakspear dead, Maekar disgruntled with the Throne, Aerys I burying himself in books, most of the hostages keeping the Blackfyre loyalists in line dead and the Iron Islands rebelling. However, rather than letting Bittersteel and the Golden Company handle the matter, Daemon II went off on his own to start a rebellion without their approval, hedging everything on a supposed prophetic dream that he would hatch a dragon. When that plan failed miserably, not only did loads of Blackfyre loyalists he rallied to his cause die, but his capture also meant that Bittersteel couldn't crown someone else to start another rebellion for several years, squandering this precious window of opportunity in the process.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheMillstone: This guy probably harmed the Blackfyre cause far more than anyone short of Bloodraven. The period immediately after the Great Spring Sickness was the most favorable opportunity possible to start another rebellion, with Baelor Breakspear dead, Maekar disgruntled with the Throne, Aerys I burying himself in books, most of the hostages keeping the Blackfyre loyalists in line dead and the Iron Islands rebelling. However, rather than letting Bittersteel and the Golden Company handle the matter, Daemon II went off on his own to start a rebellion without their approval, hedging everything on a supposed prophetic dream he had that he would hatch a dragon. When that plan failed miserably, not only did loads of Blackfyre loyalists he rallied to his cause die, but his capture also meant that Bittersteel couldn't crown someone else to start another rebellion for several years, squandering this precious window of opportunity in the process.

to:

* TheMillstone: This guy probably harmed the Blackfyre cause far more than anyone short of Bloodraven. The period immediately after the Great Spring Sickness was the most favorable opportunity possible to start another rebellion, with Baelor Breakspear dead, Maekar disgruntled with the Throne, Aerys I burying himself in books, most of the hostages keeping the Blackfyre loyalists in line dead and the Iron Islands rebelling. However, rather than letting Bittersteel and the Golden Company handle the matter, Daemon II went off on his own to start a rebellion without their approval, hedging everything on a supposed prophetic dream he had that he would hatch a dragon. When that plan failed miserably, not only did loads of Blackfyre loyalists he rallied to his cause die, but his capture also meant that Bittersteel couldn't crown someone else to start another rebellion for several years, squandering this precious window of opportunity in the process.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheMillstone: This guy probably harmed the Blackfyre cause far more than anyone short of Bloodraven. The period immediately after the Great Spring Sickness was the most favorable opportunity possible to start another rebellion, with Baelor Breakspear dead, Maekar disgruntled with the Throne, Aerys I burying himself in books, most of the hostages keeping the Blackfyre loyalists in line dead and the Iron Islands rebelling. However, rather than letting Bittersteel and the Golden Company handle the matter, Daemon II went off on his own to start a rebellion without their approval, hedging everything on a supposed prophetic dream he had that he would hatch a dragon. When that plan failed miserably, not only did loads of Blackfyre loyalists he rallied to his cause die, but his capture also meant that Bittersteel couldn't crown someone else to start another rebellion for several years, squandering this precious window of opportunity in the process.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Irony}}: Daeron II's line nearly died out anyway even without the Blackfyres intervening, so had they not decided to rebel, they would have likely inherited the throne during the Great Council. The irony was not lost on them either, considering that Aenys Blackfyre came back to Westeros to peacefully stake his claim after nearly every other viable Targaryen heir died.

to:

* {{Irony}}: As it would turn out, Daeron II's line nearly died out anyway went extinct even without the Blackfyres intervening, so had they not decided to rebel, they would might have likely inherited the throne during the Great Council. The irony was not lost on them either, considering that Aenys Blackfyre came back to Westeros to peacefully stake his claim after nearly every other viable Targaryen heir died.during said Great Council.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Irony}}: Every Targaryen ahead of Daemon I's line (with the only possible exception of Maekar, whose birth year is uncertain) died off in way one or another, so had the Blackfyres not decided to rebel, they would have likely inherited the throne anyway. The irony was not lost on them either, considering that Aenys Blackfyre came back to Westeros to peacefully stake his claim after nearly every other viable Targaryen heir died.

to:

* {{Irony}}: Every Targaryen ahead of Daemon I's Daeron II's line (with the only possible exception of Maekar, whose birth year is uncertain) nearly died off in way one or another, so had out anyway even without the Blackfyres intervening, so had they not decided to rebel, they would have likely inherited the throne anyway.during the Great Council. The irony was not lost on them either, considering that Aenys Blackfyre came back to Westeros to peacefully stake his claim after nearly every other viable Targaryen heir died.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* LikeFatherUnlikeSon: His father Daemon I was a warrior without equal who earned the respect of pretty much every knight in the Realm. Daemon II, meanwhile, was a pathetic excuse of a warrior [[spoiler:who couldn't even beat a badly-mangled man with his fingernails missing in a joust.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Irony}}: Every Targaryen ahead of Daemon I's line (with the only possible exception of Maekar, whose birth year is uncertain) died off in way one or another, so had the Blackfyres not decided to rebel, they would have likely inherited the throne anyway. The irony was not lost on them either, considering that Aenys Blackfyre came back to Westeros to peacefully stake his claim after nearly every other viable Targaryen heir died.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheDeterminator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, with each loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left breathing, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]

to:

* TheDeterminator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times every single time to win the throne, with each loss more devastating than the last; throne; as long as there's a Blackfyre left breathing, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheDeterminator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, with each loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]

to:

* TheDeterminator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, with each loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left, left breathing, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Determinator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, witheach loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]

to:

* Determinator: TheDeterminator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, witheach with each loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Determinator: It doesn't matter that they have failed multiple times to win the throne, witheach loss more devastating than the last; as long as there's a Blackfyre left, they'll keep trying. [[spoiler:If Young Griff is indeed a Blackfyre survivor from the female line, then not even the extinction of their male line is enough to deter them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" mostly on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and hopefully winning it, thus impressing them into declaring for him. As it turned out, however, Daemon was an absolutely mediocre fighter, necessitating his supporters to bribe his opponents for the plan to have any chance of success. However, they met a giant roadblock when they came across Glendon Flowers, who refused to be bribed, forcing them to disqualify him through subterfuge instead. This might have worked, but then Daemon just had to prove his gallantry by offering Glendon a trial by combat, which he somehow managed to lose despite Glendon still reeling from his torture. Needless to say, upon seeing this wannabe king lose to a weakened hedge knight, all of the Blackfyre loyalists present retracted their support from him, and once Brynden Rivers came knocking, they all abandoned him to his fate.

to:

** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, Company (on account of his entire plan hinging on a supposedly prophetic dream), so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" mostly on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and hopefully winning it, thus impressing them into declaring for him. As it turned out, however, Daemon was an absolutely mediocre fighter, necessitating his supporters to bribe his opponents for the plan to have any chance of success. However, they met a giant roadblock when they came across Glendon Flowers, who refused to be bribed, forcing them to disqualify him through subterfuge instead. This might have worked, but then Daemon just had to prove his gallantry by offering Glendon a trial by combat, which he somehow managed to lose despite Glendon still reeling from his torture. Needless to say, upon seeing this wannabe king lose to a weakened hedge knight, all of the Blackfyre loyalists present retracted their support from him, and once Brynden Rivers came knocking, they all abandoned him to his fate.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" mostly on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and hopefully winning it, thus impressing them into declaring for him. As it turned out, however, Daemon was an absolutely mediocre fighter, necessitating his supporters to bribe his opponents for the plan to have any chance of success. However, they met a giant roadblock when they came across Glendon Flowers, who refused to be bribed, forcing them to disqualify him through subterfuge instead. This might have worked, but then Daemon just had to prove his gallantry by offering Glendon a trial by combat, which he somehow managed to lose despite Glendon being wounded. Needless to say, upon seeing this wannabe king lose to a weakened hedge knight, none of the Blackfyre loyalists were too keen to fight for him, and once Brynden Rivers came knocking, they all abandoned him to his fate.

to:

** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" mostly on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and hopefully winning it, thus impressing them into declaring for him. As it turned out, however, Daemon was an absolutely mediocre fighter, necessitating his supporters to bribe his opponents for the plan to have any chance of success. However, they met a giant roadblock when they came across Glendon Flowers, who refused to be bribed, forcing them to disqualify him through subterfuge instead. This might have worked, but then Daemon just had to prove his gallantry by offering Glendon a trial by combat, which he somehow managed to lose despite Glendon being wounded. still reeling from his torture. Needless to say, upon seeing this wannabe king lose to a weakened hedge knight, none all of the Blackfyre loyalists were too keen to fight for present retracted their support from him, and once Brynden Rivers came knocking, they all abandoned him to his fate.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and winning it through bribery, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, he was met with a knight who couldn't be bribed, and after failing to disqualify him through subterfuge, got beaten soundly by him. When Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help him since he was so pathetic.

to:

** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" mostly on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and hopefully winning it through bribery, it, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, he As it turned out, however, Daemon was an absolutely mediocre fighter, necessitating his supporters to bribe his opponents for the plan to have any chance of success. However, they met with a knight giant roadblock when they came across Glendon Flowers, who couldn't refused to be bribed, and after failing forcing them to disqualify him through subterfuge, got beaten soundly subterfuge instead. This might have worked, but then Daemon just had to prove his gallantry by him. When offering Glendon a trial by combat, which he somehow managed to lose despite Glendon being wounded. Needless to say, upon seeing this wannabe king lose to a weakened hedge knight, none of the Blackfyre loyalists were too keen to fight for him, and once Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help knocking, they all abandoned him since he was so pathetic.to his fate.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and winning it through bribery, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, he was met with a knight who couldn't be bribed, and after failing to disqualify him through subterfuge, got beaten soundly by him. When Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help him since he was too pathetic to bother.

to:

** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and winning it through bribery, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, he was met with a knight who couldn't be bribed, and after failing to disqualify him through subterfuge, got beaten soundly by him. When Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help him since he was too pathetic to bother.so pathetic.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and winning it through bribery, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, the moment he had to fight a knight who couldn't be bribed, he lost badly and became a laughing stock. When Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help him since he was too pathetic to bother.

to:

** The Second Blackfyre Rebellion deserves a special mention, as it barely qualified as a rebellion and got axed before it even started. The Blackfyre claimant this time, Daemon II Blackfyre, didn't even have the support of the Aegor and the Golden Company, so he had to oversee the entire "rebellion" on his own. Said rebellion consisted of him gathering a bunch of Blackfyre loyalists to a tourney and winning it through bribery, thus impressing them into declaring for him. Unfortunately, the moment he had to fight was met with a knight who couldn't be bribed, he lost badly and became a laughing stock.after failing to disqualify him through subterfuge, got beaten soundly by him. When Brynden Rivers heard of the plot and came to arrest him, none of the formerly-Blackfyre-aligned lords bothered to help him since he was too pathetic to bother.

Top