History BrokenBase / Music

* Music/TwentyOnePilots. Their major-label debut ''Vessel'' (2013) is widely considered their best album and 2015’s ''Blurryface'' was a huge, [[UsefulNotes/GrammyAward Grammy-winning]] pop success. Most fans agree they are excellent albums in their own right, but some miss the less polished production and less poppy sound of their self-titled album and ''Regional at Best'', both of which were self-released.

* Hip-Hop is divided between pure HipHop fans, AlternativeRap fans, GangstaRap fans, PoliticalRap fans, HardcoreHipHop fans, ConsciousHipHop fans vs. fans of overtly mainstream poppish "bling bling" styled "GlamRap" arguably SwagRap[[note]] Swag Rap, fairly or not, is often seen as no different than Glam rap. Some don't even see it as rap, but another genre entirely[[/note]] and TrapMusic. But to simplify it, it generally boils down to divisions mainly between the normally underground/gutter/gangsta/anti-establishment/grimy/Alternative and conscious hip hop heads and the fans of artists that rhymed about material wealth, capitalism and the like. The former groups don't get a long that much either, but has some form of respect towards one another and tends to crosspolinate, and seem to be [[TeethClenchedTeamWork united againt the latter group of fans]]. Don't even get started on the regionalism though, we'll be here all day.

* Music/MyChemicalRomance’s base is pretty toxic and broken in just about every respect, but let’s focus on the music. Their first two albums (''I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love'' and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge) are rougher, louder, and much more Hardcore Punk and Post-Hardcore. Music/TheBlackParade is a theatrical, operatic concept album influenced by 70s progressive and glam rock, while Music/DangerDaysTheTrueLivesOfTheFabulousKilljoys is another concept album with a garage rock and dance-rock vibe. Some fans prefer the harder-edged sound of the first two albums, and you’ll find arguments in the fandom about which one is the best even now, 5 years after MCR’s disbandment.

* Like Madonna, Music/JanetJackson has a similar divide in regards to the different decades and eras of her music. 80s vs 90s vs 00s.

* Hip-Hop is divided between pure HipHop fans, AlternativeRap fans, GangstaRap fans, PoliticalRap fans, HardcoreHipHop fans, ConsciousHipHop fans vs. fans of overtly mainstream poppish "bling bling" styled "GlamRap" and arguably SwagRap[[note]] Swag Rap, and TrapMusic, fairly or not, is often seen as no different than Glam rap. Some don't even see it as rap, but another genre entirely[[/note]]. But to simplify it, it generally boils down to divisions mainly between the normally underground/gutter/gangsta/anti-establishment/grimy/Alternative and conscious hip hop heads and the fans of artists that rhymed about material wealth, capitalism and the like. The former groups don't get a long that much either, but has some form of respect towards one another and tends to crosspolinate, and seem to be [[TeethClenchedTeamWork united againt the latter group of fans]]. Don't even get started on the regionalism though, we'll be here all day.

* Hip-Hop is divided between pure HipHop fans, AlternativeRap fans, GangstaRap fans, PoliticalRap fans, HardcoreHipHop fans, ConsciousHipHop fans vs. fans of overtly mainstream poppish "bling bling" styled "GlamRap" and arguably SwagRap[[note]] Swag Rap, fairly or not, is often seen as no different than Glam rap. Some don't even see it as rap, but another genre entirely[[/note]]. But to simplify it, it generally boils down to divisions mainly between the normally underground/gutter/gangsta/anti-establishment/grimy/Alternative and conscious hip hop heads and the fans of artists that rhymed about material wealth, capitalism and the like. The former groups don't get a long that much either, but has some form of respect towards one another and tends to crosspolinate, and seem to be [[TeethClenchedTeamWork united againt the latter group of fans]]. Don't even get started on the regionalism though, we'll be here all day.

** The narrowing of the urban radio format, and song selection, and exclusivity (including music video blocks during the 00's) has exacerbated this problem. As they tend to favor GlamRap type songs and videos because they are seen as "Safe". Which causes a lot of bitter resentment. So the argument isn't necessarily about whether or not Music/SouljaBoy is real hip-hop, (Or alternativly StopHavingFunGuys), But about the marginalization of everything else in favor of SOLELY supporting rappers like Soulja Boy or generic club anthem rap songs.

*** within GangstaRap, how important is the "gangsta" part? Accusations of [[IJustWantToBeBadass being fake]] are common in rap beefs and in fan discussions, but others still warn these new artists that rapping about real crimes and real gang rivaries can invite trouble from rivals and the police.

* Happened to Music/MariahCarey when she started adding more Hip-Hop and straightforward R&B to her music. With some fans saying she only did it because she was getting insecure about her race.

* For Music/{{Madonna}} the divide usually boils down to [[The Eighties 80s]] Madonna vs [[TheNinties 90s]] Madonna vs [[TurnOfTheMillennium 00's]] Madonna.

** AgainstMe! has seen the fanbase fissure at many turns as it moved from being just Laura Jane Grace busking as a solo FolkPunk on the streets of Fort Lauderdale to eventually signing with Sire Records, with each move prompting some fans to denounce the band as sell outs.

* FolkMusic: On the one hand, purists who insist on using only traditional acoustic instruments for the UnpluggedVersion. On the other hand, rockers who don't mind including electric guitars, resulting in Folk Rock, FolkPunk, and even FolkMetal. This can get very contentious among fans, perhaps most notoriously when Music/BobDylan switched from acoustic to electric guitar mid-set at a folk festival.

* Music/{{Styx}}: Fans are split as to whether Music/KilroyWasHere's poppier sound was for the better or not.

* The Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame's admission choices have always been controversial, but the most persistent conflict is over whether or not non-rock artists deserve to be inducted, with particular scorn towards the inclusion of rappers. One side claims that the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame is specifically for ''rock'' musicians and that artists of other genres should have a hall of fame of their own, while the other side counters that "Rock-n-Roll" refers to popular music in general and not specifically the rock genre, which had long ago evolved into its own thing, and limiting inductees to ''just'' rock would unfairly exclude the majority of black musicians.

* Music/DreamTheater saw a major rift occur among its fans when their drummer, Mike Portnoy, left the band and got replaced by Mike Mangini. Portnoy is widely considered one of the best metal drummers of all time, so his departure was seen as the end of an era, and some fans choose to disregard everything released afterwards as FanonDiscontinuity. However, Mangini is an extraordinarily talented drummer in his own right, and some think that he makes for a more than suitable replacement, or even that he's the superior drummer of the two. And then there's a third group, which feels that [[TechnicianVsPerformer while Mangini is more skilled on the technical level, he lacks Portnoy's energy and stage presence]], with his drumming style often being criticized as "machine-like". While some fans think Mangini is improving with each album he plays on, he's still a highly controversial topic among fans of the band, and you can easily spark a flame war by bringing him up.

* The Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame's admission choices have always been controversial, but the most persistent conflict is over whether or not non-rock artists deserve to be inducted, with particular scorn towards the inclusion of rappers. One side claims that the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame is specifically for ''rock'' musicians and that artists of other genres should have a hall of fame of their own, while the other side counters that "Rock-n-Roll" refers to popular music in general and not specifically the rock genre, which had long ago evolved into its own thing, and limiting inductees to ''just'' rock would unfairly exclude the majority of black musicians.

* The Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame's admission choices have always been controversial, but the most persistent conflict is over whether or not non-rock artists deserve to be inducted, with particular scorn towards the inclusion of rappers. One side claims that the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame is specifically for ''rock'' musicians and that artists of other genres should have a hall of fame of their own, while the other side counters that "Rock-n-Roll" refers to popular music in general and not specifically the rock genre, which had long ago evolved into its own thing, and limiting inductees to ''just'' rock would unfairly exclude the majority of black musicians.
%%* UsefulNotes/RollingStone500GreatestAlbumsOfAllTime2020 is a view on good music that manages to be more contemporary and inclusive, or PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that downplays the importance\quality of some classic albums (Music/TheBeatles at only #5!).
** The Hall has also been accused of, among other things, being biased against progressive rock, minimizing the importance of female artists, and favoring American acts over British ones.

%%* UsefulNotes/RollingStone500GreatestAlbumsOfAllTime2020 is a view on good music that manages to be more contemporary and inclusive, or PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that downplays the importance\quality of some classic albums (Music/TheBeatles at only #5!).

* UsefulNotes/RollingStone500GreatestAlbumsOfAllTime2020 is a view on good music that manages to be more contemporary and inclusive, or PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that downplays the importance\quality of some classic albums (Music/TheBeatles at only #5!).

* The Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame's admission choices have always been controversial, but the most persistent conflict is over whether or not non-rock artists deserve to be inducted, with particular scorn towards the inclusion of rappers. One side claims that the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame is specifically for ''rock'' musicians and that artists of other genres should have a hall of fame of their own, while the other side counters that "Rock-n-Roll" refers to popular music in general and not specifically the rock genre, which had long ago evolved into its own thing, and limiting inductees to ''just'' rock would unfairly exclude the majority of black musicians.