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* Mario's fights with Bowser are truly awesome. Historically, their fights have revolved around Mario either throwing something at Bowser, throwing Bowser into something, or tricking Bowser into touching an obstacle. In this rendition, Mario just beats the crap out of Bowser by way of his boxing-glove hat.

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* Mario's fights with Bowser are truly awesome. Historically, their fights have revolved around Mario either throwing something at Bowser, throwing Bowser into something, or tricking Bowser into touching an obstacle. In this rendition, Mario just beats the crap out of Bowser by way of his boxing-glove hat.hat.
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* Before, Mario could ride a dinosaur. Now, he can ''be a [[KingOfTheDinosaurs Tyrannosaurus rex]]''. And as it turns out, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs he can be the aforementioned dinosaur]], too, once he returns to the Mushroom Kingdom.

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* Before, Mario could ride a dinosaur. Now, he can ''be a [[KingOfTheDinosaurs Tyrannosaurus rex]]''.rex''. And as it turns out, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs he can be the aforementioned dinosaur]], too, once he returns to the Mushroom Kingdom.
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* Mario’s fights with Bowser are truly awesome. Historically, their fights have revolved around Mario either throwing something at Bowser, throwing Bowser into something, or tricking Bowser into touching an obstacle. In this rendition, Mario just beats the crap out of Bowser by way of his boxing-glove hat.

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* Mario’s Mario's fights with Bowser are truly awesome. Historically, their fights have revolved around Mario either throwing something at Bowser, throwing Bowser into something, or tricking Bowser into touching an obstacle. In this rendition, Mario just beats the crap out of Bowser by way of his boxing-glove hat.
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* The game's Metro Kingdom reveals that Pauline and Mario are still on ''very'' good terms. Not only are they AmicableExes, they're practically LikeBrotherAndSister, considering how well Pauline treats Mario when he arrives.

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* The game's Metro Kingdom reveals that Pauline and Mario are still on ''very'' good terms. Not only are they AmicableExes, they're practically LikeBrotherAndSister, considering how well Pauline treats Mario when he arrives.arrives.
* Mario’s fights with Bowser are truly awesome. Historically, their fights have revolved around Mario either throwing something at Bowser, throwing Bowser into something, or tricking Bowser into touching an obstacle. In this rendition, Mario just beats the crap out of Bowser by way of his boxing-glove hat.
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As far as [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] games go, ''Super Mario Odyssey'' may very well be the most ambitious Mario game yet, with plenty of epic and memorable moments.

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As far as [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] games go, ''Super Mario Odyssey'' ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' may very well be the most ambitious Mario game yet, with plenty of epic and memorable moments.
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* The game's Metro Kingdom reveals that Pauline and Mario are still on ''very'' good terms. Not only are they AmicableExes, they're practically LikeBrotherAndSister, considering how well Pauline treats Mario when he arrives.

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* The game sold 2 million copies ''in 3 days''. That's salesman speak for "NINTENDO'S BACK, PEOPLE"!
** It also became the top selling Switch title through late 2017 and 2018, overcoming every other game. It is still the second highest selling game for Nintendo Switch, just below ''VideoGame/MarioKart8Deluxe'' and just above ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5zPmAKlPds A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.
* Mario's absolutely insane movement range in this game deserves some serious praise. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLl7lbbpjig As this video goes into]], it's possible to go through the entire game and get nearly every moon without needing to capture creatures for the moons like you're intended to. It's so good, some have even managed to beat [=RoboBrood=] [[https://youtu.be/W3ZeBhFGGio?t=1h1m58s without needing to capture a Pokio like intended]].
** Speaking of Mario’s movement, it is insane enough that some players have done no jump speedruns. [[https://www.speedrun.com/smoce#Jumpless]]

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* The game's Metro Kingdom reveals that Pauline and Mario are still on ''very'' good terms. Not only are they AmicableExes, they're practically LikeBrotherAndSister, considering how well Pauline treats Mario when he arrives.

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* The game sold 2 million copies ''in 3 days''. That's salesman speak for "NINTENDO'S BACK, PEOPLE"!
** It also became the top selling Switch title through late 2017 and 2018, overcoming every other game. It is still the second highest selling game for Nintendo Switch, just below ''VideoGame/MarioKart8Deluxe'' and just above ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5zPmAKlPds A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.
* Mario's absolutely insane movement range in this game deserves some serious praise. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLl7lbbpjig As this video goes into]], it's possible to go through the entire game and get nearly every moon without needing to capture creatures for the moons like you're intended to. It's so good, some have even managed to beat [=RoboBrood=] [[https://youtu.be/W3ZeBhFGGio?t=1h1m58s without needing to capture a Pokio like intended]].
** Speaking of Mario’s movement, it is insane enough that some players have done no jump speedruns. [[https://www.speedrun.com/smoce#Jumpless]]
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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, [[YouCantThwartStageOne Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for]], only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by denying a true victory over him.]]

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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, [[YouCantThwartStageOne Mario ''never Mario]] ''[[YouCantThwartStageOne never actually stops him'' him]]'' [[YouCantThwartStageOne from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for]], only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt sense, [[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by denying a true victory over him.]]
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* [[https://youtu.be/XQZ5ihDp3oU A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.

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* [[https://youtu.be/XQZ5ihDp3oU [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5zPmAKlPds A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.
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* The beginning of the game sets the tone, opening on Mario and Bowser throwing down in a cutscene, duking it out on his airship in the skies over the recently-abducted Peach's castle. Bowser wins by knocking Mario off the ship with his hat, then crushes Mario's hat before the ship's propellers shred it to pieces.

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* The beginning of the game sets the tone, opening on Mario and Bowser throwing down in a cutscene, duking it out on his airship in the skies over the recently-abducted Peach's castle. Bowser wins by knocking Mario off the ship with his hat, then crushes Mario's hat underfoot before the throwing ''that'' overboard as well and letting it be shredded by his ship's propellers shred it propellers, just to pieces.drive home how thoroughly Mario has been trounced.



* Despite facing near-constant delays from the Broodals and the need to stop for more Power Moons, Mario and Cappy catch up to Bowser ''four times''. Even when they're stranded on an uncharted island or in a ruined, uninhabited wasteland with their only method of transportation out of commission, they still manage to scrape together what they need to get moving again.



* Peach's near-perpetual status as a DamselInDistress in the mainstream Mario games has bothered some gamers, as other titles in the series (including the ''Paper Mario'' games and even [[VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach her own adventure]]) have made her into something of an ActionGirl who's more proactive than passive. That's what makes her performance in the ending so incredible. After saving her, Mario looks as though he's going to propose himself after all these years. Then Bowser wakes up and, seeing what's about to happen, tries to pop the question before Mario can. The two men (well, man and Koopa) start shoving flowers in her face and demanding she choose. And what does the proper, demure, often-"girly" Princess Peach do? ''She pulls a ScrewThisImOuttaHere on them.'' That's right: Peach, the original video game princess, subverts the AndNowYouMustMarryMe trope: she just up and marches away, leaving the two stunned, and even starts revving up the Odyssey. It's such an amazing reaction to over thirty years of being kidnapped that you can't help but cheer for her. It does turn into a bit of a TearJerker however when Mario and Bowser start crying over it...she does, however, call out to them, saying "Let's go home!"

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* Peach's near-perpetual status as a DamselInDistress in the mainstream Mario games has bothered some gamers, as other titles in the series (including the ''Paper Mario'' games and even [[VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach her own adventure]]) have made her into something of an ActionGirl who's more proactive than passive. That's what makes her performance in the ending so incredible. After saving her, Mario looks as though he's going to propose himself after all these years. Then Bowser wakes up and, seeing what's about to happen, tries to pop the question before Mario can. The two men (well, man and Koopa) start shoving flowers in her face and demanding she choose. And what does the proper, demure, often-"girly" Princess Peach do? ''She pulls a ScrewThisImOuttaHere on them.'' That's right: Peach, the original video game princess, subverts the both AndNowYouMustMarryMe trope: she and StandardHeroReward. She just up and marches away, leaving the two stunned, and even starts revving up the Odyssey. It's such an amazing reaction to over thirty years of being kidnapped that you can't help but cheer for her. It does turn into a bit of a TearJerker however when Mario and Bowser start crying over it...she does, however, call out to them, saying "Let's go home!"
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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by denying a true victory over him.]]

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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, [[YouCantThwartStageOne Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, for]], only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by denying a true victory over him.]]
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* Before, Mario could ride a dinosaur. Now, he can ''be a Tyrannosaurus rex''. And as it turns out, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs he can be the aforementioned dinosaur]], too, once he returns to the Mushroom Kingdom.

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* Before, Mario could ride a dinosaur. Now, he can ''be a [[KingOfTheDinosaurs Tyrannosaurus rex''.rex]]''. And as it turns out, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs he can be the aforementioned dinosaur]], too, once he returns to the Mushroom Kingdom.
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As far as [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] games go, ''Super Mario Odyssey'' may very well be the most ambitious Mario game yet, with plenty of awesome and memorable moments.

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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by rejecting him a true victory over him.]]

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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by rejecting him denying a true victory over him.]]
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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense, "defeated" Mario by rejecting him a true victory over him.

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* Bowser's actually pretty clever in how he decides to go about things this time around. Namely, Mario ''never actually stops him'' from raiding the kingdoms along the adventure to get what he's looking for, only showing up in time to chase him and the Broodals out from causing any more harm, and putting the kingdoms back in order...which, in turn, only keeps him two steps behind Bowser the entire way. Mario manages to corner the Koopa King before the finale a grand total of ''twice'', after which Bowser learns from his mistakes and employs his cannons, and later a gigantic dragon, to sink the Odyssey when Mario's gaining ground on him. Even in the end, while Peach rejected both of them, Bowser ''also'' did manage to ruin Mario's proposal to Peach - which means that in the end, Mario ''didn't ultimately win'' as much as it was a tie. Bowser may have lost Peach again, but in a sense, sense,[[WeWinBecauseYouDidnt "defeated" Mario by rejecting him a true victory over him.]]
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** Beating Mario fair and square is an awesome moment for Bowser, but Mario gets his own moment of awesome by plummeting several thousand feet and surviving practically ''unscathed''. He's clearly bulked up a lot since ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', when falls from much lesser heights would wipe out his health in one go.
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** Throughout the series, Bowser is known for letting out LargeHam-tastic {{Evil Laugh}}s, but in this cutscene where he grabs Peach and Tiara while they are at Mario and Cappy's reach, he starts letting out a more subdued, much more menacing chuckle, clearly wanting to get a rise out of the heroes just by showing their loved ones at very close proximity, and yet ''still'' unreachable. Even when he's doing ''almost nothing'' to attack, Bowser is still an extremely effective antagonist.
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** It also became the top selling Switch title through late 2017 and 2018, overcoming every other game.

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** It also became the top selling Switch title through late 2017 and 2018, overcoming every other game. It is still the second highest selling game for Nintendo Switch, just below ''VideoGame/MarioKart8Deluxe'' and just above ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4xW9aCg2zY A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4xW9aCg2zY [[https://youtu.be/XQZ5ihDp3oU A commercial]] for the game fully embraces the upbeat Broadway-esque style of "Jump Up, Super Star!" by having Mario and a crowd of dancers do a dance number set to the song. It also feels just like a Super Bowl commercial, right down to the production values.
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* Peach's near-perpetual status as a DamselInDistress in the mainstream Mario games has bothered some gamers, as other titles in the series (including the ''Paper Mario'' games and even [[VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach her own adventure]]) have made her into something of an ActionGirl who's more proactive than passive. That's what makes her ending so incredible. After saving her, Mario looks as though he's going to propose himself after all these years. Then Bowser wakes up and, seeing what's about to happen, tries to pop the question before Mario can. The two men (well, man and Koopa) start shoving flowers in her face and demanding she choose. And what does the proper, demure, often-"girly" Princess Peach do? ''She pulls a ScrewThisImOuttaHere on them.'' That's right: Peach, the original video game princess, subverts the AndNowYouMustMarryMe trope: she just up and marches away, leaving the two stunned, and even starts revving up the Odyssey. It's such an amazing reaction to over thirty years of being kidnapped that you can't help but cheer for her. It does turn into a bit of a TearJerker however when Mario and Bowser start crying over it... ]] She does however Call out to them telling them both "Let's go home!"

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* Peach's near-perpetual status as a DamselInDistress in the mainstream Mario games has bothered some gamers, as other titles in the series (including the ''Paper Mario'' games and even [[VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach her own adventure]]) have made her into something of an ActionGirl who's more proactive than passive. That's what makes her performance in the ending so incredible. After saving her, Mario looks as though he's going to propose himself after all these years. Then Bowser wakes up and, seeing what's about to happen, tries to pop the question before Mario can. The two men (well, man and Koopa) start shoving flowers in her face and demanding she choose. And what does the proper, demure, often-"girly" Princess Peach do? ''She pulls a ScrewThisImOuttaHere on them.'' That's right: Peach, the original video game princess, subverts the AndNowYouMustMarryMe trope: she just up and marches away, leaving the two stunned, and even starts revving up the Odyssey. It's such an amazing reaction to over thirty years of being kidnapped that you can't help but cheer for her. It does turn into a bit of a TearJerker however when Mario and Bowser start crying over it... ]] She does however Call she does, however, call out to them telling them both them, saying "Let's go home!"
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* While it's played for comedy, it's still pretty impressive that Peach is holding her own in the tug-of-war over the Binding Band with Bowser. You'd expect the tough Koopa to easily pull it out of her hands, but either she's so determined to not marry that she's matching his strength, or he's going easy despite his frustration so he doesn't hurt her.

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* While it's played for comedy, it's still pretty impressive that Peach is holding her own in the tug-of-war over the Binding Band with Bowser. You'd expect the tough Koopa to easily pull it out of her hands, but either she's so determined to not marry that she's matching his strength, or [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments he's going easy despite his frustration so he doesn't hurt her.]]
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* While it's played for comedy, it's still pretty impressive that Peach is holding her own in the tug-of-war over the Binding Band with Bowser. You'd expect the tough Koopa to easily pull it out of her hands, but either she's so determined to not marry that she's matching his strength, or he's going easy despite his frustration so he doesn't hurt her.

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