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* Her defense of [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* Her defense of [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG6ACLZUS0 I Played Final Fantasy XIV for 2 Hours and It Was Fine]]" sees Lily give comparisons between [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV the titular game]] and ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Lily says that ''XIV'' has a pretty decent story -- certified heroes and villains who remain consistently written, {{Call Back}}s, [[HellYesMoment satisfying payoffs]], no random [[TheManBehindTheMan secretly-behind-everything bad guys]], definitive conclusions to story arcs and characters, and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick it's not written by a serial rapist who got control of the story to destroy a character that the writer irrationally hated]]. Lily admits that all of that is objectively good when it comes to writing, but [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency Lily argues that all of the above is the bare minimum, not the gold standard]], and it's more of a testament to how bad ''[=WoW=]'' is than how good ''XIV'' is. Lily even calls ''XIV'' a good game even though it didn't appeal to her, and says that ''[=WoW=]'' could stand to learn a thing or two about getting community feedback from the development team behind ''XIV''. It all shows that, even though Lily doesn't like ''XIV'', she still found good things to say about it.
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* "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG6ACLZUS0 I Played Final Fantasy XIV for 2 Hours and It Was Fine]]" sees Lily give comparisons between [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV the titular game]] and ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Lily says that ''XIV'' has a pretty decent story -- certified heroes and villains who remain consistently written, {{Call Back}}s, [[HellYesMoment satisfying payoffs]], no random [[TheManBehindTheMan secretly-behind-everything bad guys]], definitive conclusions to story arcs and characters, and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick it's not written by a serial rapist who got control of the story to destroy a character that the writer irrationally hated]]. Lily admits that all of that is objectively good when it comes to writing, but [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency Lily argues that all of the above is the bare minimum, not the gold standard]], and it's more of a testament to how bad ''[=WoW=]'' is than how good ''XIV'' is. Lily even calls ''XIV'' a good game even though it didn't appeal to her, and says that ''[=WoW=]'' could stand to learn a thing or two about getting community feedback from the development team behind ''XIV''. It all shows that, even though Lily doesn't like ''XIV'', she still found good things after they managed to say about it.WinBackTheCrowd from admitting they made mistakes. It's all a very humble video and opinion piece.
-->'''Lily:''' If anything can be learned from ''Final Fantasy [XIV]'', it's that there's no shame in admitting defeat and starting over. I don't like this game, but I was never supposed to. [...] I can see why someone would like this -- all the pieces are there, it's not like this hard to figure out -- but I'm not that someone.
-->'''Lily:''' If anything can be learned from ''Final Fantasy [XIV]'', it's that there's no shame in admitting defeat and starting over. I don't like this game, but I was never supposed to. [...] I can see why someone would like this -- all the pieces are there, it's not like this hard to figure out -- but I'm not that someone.
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--->'''Lily:''' It can be easy, especially when you deal with mental illness on a chronic basis, to acclimate to a mental illness being part of your identity. Part of the fear of medication is the myth that they'll make you into someone else. That you won't be "you" anymore. And people can attach themselves so hard to their trauma and struggles that recovery can feel like erasure. I don't personally know how to break that belief in people. But I can safely say that you are ''not'' your mental illness. And medication and recovery isn't going to turn you into someone that isn't you. It's going to bring you back. Because mental illnesses and trauma turn you into someone else. Someone unlike you. And who you are after practicing self-care -- taking your medicine, being able to manage these problems, and go back to a stable life -- ''that's'' the real you. Mental illnesses screw with your perceptions, and it can be easy to trick yourself into thinking this is who you are. But it's not. Take your medicine, please. And let the real you come home.
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--->'''Lily:''' It can be easy, especially when you deal with mental illness on a chronic basis, to acclimate to a mental illness being part of your identity. Part of the fear of medication is the myth that they'll make you into someone else. That you won't be "you" anymore. And people can attach themselves so hard to their trauma and struggles that recovery can feel like erasure. I don't personally know how to break that belief in people. But I can safely say that you are ''not'' your mental illness. And medication and recovery isn't going to turn you into someone that isn't you. It's going to bring you back. Because mental illnesses and trauma turn you into someone else. Someone unlike you. And who you are after practicing self-care -- taking your medicine, being able to manage these problems, and go back to a stable life -- ''that's'' the real you. Mental illnesses screw with your perceptions, and it can be easy to trick yourself into thinking this is who you are. But it's not. Take your medicine, please. And let the real you come home.home.
* "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG6ACLZUS0 I Played Final Fantasy XIV for 2 Hours and It Was Fine]]" sees Lily give comparisons between [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV the titular game]] and ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Lily says that ''XIV'' has a pretty decent story -- certified heroes and villains who remain consistently written, {{Call Back}}s, [[HellYesMoment satisfying payoffs]], no random [[TheManBehindTheMan secretly-behind-everything bad guys]], definitive conclusions to story arcs and characters, and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick it's not written by a serial rapist who got control of the story to destroy a character that the writer irrationally hated]]. Lily admits that all of that is objectively good when it comes to writing, but [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency Lily argues that all of the above is the bare minimum, not the gold standard]], and it's more of a testament to how bad ''[=WoW=]'' is than how good ''XIV'' is. Lily even calls ''XIV'' a good game even though it didn't appeal to her, and says that ''[=WoW=]'' could stand to learn a thing or two about getting community feedback from the development team behind ''XIV''. It all shows that, even though Lily doesn't like ''XIV'', she still found good things to say about it.
* "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG6ACLZUS0 I Played Final Fantasy XIV for 2 Hours and It Was Fine]]" sees Lily give comparisons between [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV the titular game]] and ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Lily says that ''XIV'' has a pretty decent story -- certified heroes and villains who remain consistently written, {{Call Back}}s, [[HellYesMoment satisfying payoffs]], no random [[TheManBehindTheMan secretly-behind-everything bad guys]], definitive conclusions to story arcs and characters, and [[BreadEggsMilkSquick it's not written by a serial rapist who got control of the story to destroy a character that the writer irrationally hated]]. Lily admits that all of that is objectively good when it comes to writing, but [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency Lily argues that all of the above is the bare minimum, not the gold standard]], and it's more of a testament to how bad ''[=WoW=]'' is than how good ''XIV'' is. Lily even calls ''XIV'' a good game even though it didn't appeal to her, and says that ''[=WoW=]'' could stand to learn a thing or two about getting community feedback from the development team behind ''XIV''. It all shows that, even though Lily doesn't like ''XIV'', she still found good things to say about it.
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** The video has Lily advise against SelfDeprecation in [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped a very blunt and honest way]].
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** The video has Lily advise against SelfDeprecation in [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped a very blunt and honest way]].way.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* Her X is Garbage and Here's Why videos are much longer and more analytical than her usual videos, with far more detail and research. And they're a perfect blend of analysis and humor.
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--->'''Lily:''' There's the age-old question: "What do you have to be depressed about?" To which the answer often is "Nothing, Sharon, because that's not how depression works."
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--->'''Lily:''' There's the age-old question: "What do you have to be depressed about?" To which the answer often is "Nothing, Sharon, because that's not how depression works.""
** The final bit of the video is Lily and KP calling on for the viewer to not view their mental illness as part of their identity, saying that the mental illness is preventing a person from being who they really are.
--->'''Lily:''' It can be easy, especially when you deal with mental illness on a chronic basis, to acclimate to a mental illness being part of your identity. Part of the fear of medication is the myth that they'll make you into someone else. That you won't be "you" anymore. And people can attach themselves so hard to their trauma and struggles that recovery can feel like erasure. I don't personally know how to break that belief in people. But I can safely say that you are ''not'' your mental illness. And medication and recovery isn't going to turn you into someone that isn't you. It's going to bring you back. Because mental illnesses and trauma turn you into someone else. Someone unlike you. And who you are after practicing self-care -- taking your medicine, being able to manage these problems, and go back to a stable life -- ''that's'' the real you. Mental illnesses screw with your perceptions, and it can be easy to trick yourself into thinking this is who you are. But it's not. Take your medicine, please. And let the real you come home.
** The final bit of the video is Lily and KP calling on for the viewer to not view their mental illness as part of their identity, saying that the mental illness is preventing a person from being who they really are.
--->'''Lily:''' It can be easy, especially when you deal with mental illness on a chronic basis, to acclimate to a mental illness being part of your identity. Part of the fear of medication is the myth that they'll make you into someone else. That you won't be "you" anymore. And people can attach themselves so hard to their trauma and struggles that recovery can feel like erasure. I don't personally know how to break that belief in people. But I can safely say that you are ''not'' your mental illness. And medication and recovery isn't going to turn you into someone that isn't you. It's going to bring you back. Because mental illnesses and trauma turn you into someone else. Someone unlike you. And who you are after practicing self-care -- taking your medicine, being able to manage these problems, and go back to a stable life -- ''that's'' the real you. Mental illnesses screw with your perceptions, and it can be easy to trick yourself into thinking this is who you are. But it's not. Take your medicine, please. And let the real you come home.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.model.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWAm4ckR3s Lily's video with]] WebAnimation/ILoveKimPossibleAlot about the virtues and benefits of mental health. There's little snark or jokes, just several minutes of the two ladies detailing their own traumas and the ways that they coped with it all, as well as general advice about how to get through depression.
** The video has Lily advise against SelfDeprecation in [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped a very blunt and honest way]].
--->'''Lily:''' Let me be blunt: you are killing yourself. People can claim to self-deprecate ironically, but the effect of doing it so much and so frequently can be absolutely devastating to your mental health and your self-worth. You can only self-deprecate for so long before you start to, on some level, believe it. Self-deprecation isn't funny, it's not endearing, it's not cynical, millennial, or Gen-Z humor. It's self-harm.
** Lily also goes against a lot of common stereotypes and misconceptions about people with depression.
--->'''Lily:''' There's the age-old question: "What do you have to be depressed about?" To which the answer often is "Nothing, Sharon, because that's not how depression works."
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWAm4ckR3s Lily's video with]] WebAnimation/ILoveKimPossibleAlot about the virtues and benefits of mental health. There's little snark or jokes, just several minutes of the two ladies detailing their own traumas and the ways that they coped with it all, as well as general advice about how to get through depression.
** The video has Lily advise against SelfDeprecation in [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped a very blunt and honest way]].
--->'''Lily:''' Let me be blunt: you are killing yourself. People can claim to self-deprecate ironically, but the effect of doing it so much and so frequently can be absolutely devastating to your mental health and your self-worth. You can only self-deprecate for so long before you start to, on some level, believe it. Self-deprecation isn't funny, it's not endearing, it's not cynical, millennial, or Gen-Z humor. It's self-harm.
** Lily also goes against a lot of common stereotypes and misconceptions about people with depression.
--->'''Lily:''' There's the age-old question: "What do you have to be depressed about?" To which the answer often is "Nothing, Sharon, because that's not how depression works."
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage and Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
** How the show's [=StevenBombs=] and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show.
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and... Steven).
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, how the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to WebVideo/SarahZ, who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's ''Steven Universe'' video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage and Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
** How the show's [=StevenBombs=] and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show.
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and... Steven).
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, how the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to WebVideo/SarahZ, who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's ''Steven Universe'' video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of ''The Little Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage and Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
** How the show's [=StevenBombs=] and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show.
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and... Steven).
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, how the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to WebVideo/SarahZ, who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's ''Steven Universe'' video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.model.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage and Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
** How the show's [=StevenBombs=] and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show.
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and... Steven).
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, how the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to WebVideo/SarahZ, who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's ''Steven Universe'' video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And and Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
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** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ...and... Steven).
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** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
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** [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How how the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
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I'm tempted to just remove all this.
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]:
** How the show's Stevenbombs and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ... Steven)
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]:
** How the show's Stevenbombs and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ... Steven)
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* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]].awesome]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated. Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, StockholmSyndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] Creator/LindsayEllis (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The ''The Little Mermaid Mermaid'' hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]:
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** How the show'sStevenbombs [=StevenBombs=] and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show
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** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ...Steven)Steven).
* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of
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* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[WebVideo/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[WebVideo/SarahZ Sarah Z]], WebVideo/SarahZ, who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe ''Steven Universe'' video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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Example Indentation In Trope Lists, single two or three bullets entry is always wrong. Also Creator's awesome page is about their works, not the person.
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* Lily's [[DeadpanSnarker general]] [[GoodIsNotSoft attitude]] towards bigots and idiots is [[CatharsisFactor a refresher from the majority of the Internet's "live and let live" philosophy towards those same people.]]
* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated.
** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated.
** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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Very few people regard Steven Universe attempts at LGBT representation to be lazy. And this is handwaving the fact that LGBT rep is not something that is allowed in children's programs in the first place. To call it lazy is simply misinformation, akin to saying that Alex Hirsch failled attempts to include LGBT in the epiosde "Love God" in Gravity Falls were due to lazyiness rather than executive meddling
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** How the show's LGBT representation is lazy at best due to the only LGBT relationships, Ruby x Sapphire and Pearl x Rose, being resigned to the sidelines in the form of Garnet in the case of the former and being an off-screen and one-side slave-master relationship in the case of the latter, and due [[UnfortunateImplications to the only LGBT characters being a mono-gendered race of aliens.]]
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Animation in shows is not always consistent in general and can be more subjectivein nature, this line seems offsenive because it indireclty is trying to insult the writers "mentality"
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** How the show's animation is sloppy and unappealing due to Crewniverse's unorthodox and poorly thought out design mentality
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Referfing to the Rebecca Sugar as a "creep" sounds far too much like creator bashing and it shouldn't be encouraged
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*** On a special note, she lambasts Sugar for using Stevonnie - a highly sexualized fusion of a 12 and 14 year old - as nonbinary representation and as a form of the empowerment caused by puberty.
-->'''Lily''': (after a long discussion of Sugar's weak excuses for Stevonnie's vague gender pronouns and sexualization) SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING CREEP!
-->'''Lily''': (after a long discussion of Sugar's weak excuses for Stevonnie's vague gender pronouns and sexualization) SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING CREEP!
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** {{GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.}} She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[Creator/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[Creator/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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** {{GrandFinale [[GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.}} ]] She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to[[Creator/SarahZ [[WebVideo/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to
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* The entirety of Lily's "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".
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* The entirety of Lily's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEr_sYC-k "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".]] In just over two hours, Lily epically deconstructs every flaw of [[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]:
** How the show's Stevenbombs and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ... Steven)
** How the show's animation is sloppy and unappealing due to Crewniverse's unorthodox and poorly thought out design mentality
** How the show's LGBT representation is lazy at best due to the only LGBT relationships, Ruby x Sapphire and Pearl x Rose, being resigned to the sidelines in the form of Garnet in the case of the former and being an off-screen and one-side slave-master relationship in the case of the latter, and due [[UnfortunateImplications to the only LGBT characters being a mono-gendered race of aliens.]]
*** On a special note, she lambasts Sugar for using Stevonnie - a highly sexualized fusion of a 12 and 14 year old - as nonbinary representation and as a form of the empowerment caused by puberty.
-->'''Lily''': (after a long discussion of Sugar's weak excuses for Stevonnie's vague gender pronouns and sexualization) SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING CREEP!
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** {{GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.}} She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[Creator/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
** How the show's Stevenbombs and filler episodes slow down the pacing of an otherwise brisk TV show
** How the show's characters, with a few exceptions ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Peridot, Garnet, and Connie]]) range from paper-thin and lifeless (Amethyst and Steven) to gross and offensive (the Diamonds, Pearl, Lapis, and ... Steven)
** How the show's animation is sloppy and unappealing due to Crewniverse's unorthodox and poorly thought out design mentality
** How the show's LGBT representation is lazy at best due to the only LGBT relationships, Ruby x Sapphire and Pearl x Rose, being resigned to the sidelines in the form of Garnet in the case of the former and being an off-screen and one-side slave-master relationship in the case of the latter, and due [[UnfortunateImplications to the only LGBT characters being a mono-gendered race of aliens.]]
*** On a special note, she lambasts Sugar for using Stevonnie - a highly sexualized fusion of a 12 and 14 year old - as nonbinary representation and as a form of the empowerment caused by puberty.
-->'''Lily''': (after a long discussion of Sugar's weak excuses for Stevonnie's vague gender pronouns and sexualization) SUGAR YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING CREEP!
** How the show's racial coding is offensive, from its depiction of Concrete in a sketchbook to the fusion between nonwhite-coded Amethyst and Garnet being portrayed as a loud, darkly colored brute played by a black actress.
** How the show's depiction of Rose Quartz unintentionally makes her intolerably unlikable rather than morally ambiguous, as intended.
** {{GrandFinale Most satisfyingly, however, How the show's obsession with redeeming the Diamonds, who are essentially space Nazis, and showing them to be sympathetic is a disgusting and dangerous precedence in a world with Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro and Boris Johnson.}} She pulls no stops in pointing out how disgusting and gross this is.
* Her [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubvzdREIRj0 response]] to [[Creator/SarahZ Sarah Z]], who rather lazily tried to debunk Lily's Steven Universe video, and her deconstruction of white progressives obsessed with watching "woke" shows rather than doing actual work to help marginalized groups.
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** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.model.
* The entirety of Lily's "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".
* The entirety of Lily's "Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why Video".
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** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis]] [[Creator/LindsayEllis Lindsay Ellis]] (who is often credited with starting the Internet side of The Little Mermaid hate) for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
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* Lily's [[DeadpanSnarker general]] [[GoodIsNotSoft attitude]] towards bigots and idiots is [[CatharsisFactor a refresher from the majority of the Internet's "live and let live" philosophy towards those same people.
* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated.
** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis]] for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
* Her defense of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel's]] decision to leave her father for land and Prince Eric [[https://lily-orchard.tumblr.com/post/185373404880/it-just-occurred-to-me-that-people-fault-ariel-for is pretty]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrsqNanBQI awesome too]]. Think of all the abuse victims who identified with Ariel that felt vindicated.
** Then there's the trashing that [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beauty and the Beast]] gets for its far more problematic story of a young woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Not only does Lily point out that this story is problematic without bringing up Stockholm Syndrome, she directly calls out [[Creator/LindsayEllis]] for perpetuating the brand of White Feminism which makes shitting on Ariel okay but requires someone to praise Belle as a role model.
