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* ''Phyllis'', the short-lived spinoff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', was based on Creator/ClorisLeachman's Phyllis Lindstrom. While Phyllis was beloved as a character on MTM, she worked as a supporting {{Foil}} to the protagonist Mary, as well as her dynamics with the rest of the cast. Essentially, Phyllis was a self-centered, entitled, well-meaning but oblivious social climber who was made hilariously funny in the way that she interacted with Mary, Rhoda, and the WJM staff. The spin-off focused only on Phyllis and her daughter and attempted to soften the neurotic busybody in the hopes of making her more sympathetic as a lead, but it ended up removing exactly the qualities that made audiences like Phyllis in the first place. Not helping matters were the unexpected deaths of ''three'' major cast members in the first season alone, as well as another prominent actress Jane Rose falling ill, and audiences just couldn't get invested in it. Cloris Leachman herself expressed disappointment in it, noting that it didn't recreate the magic that made the parent show work.

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* ''Phyllis'', the short-lived spinoff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', was based on Creator/ClorisLeachman's Phyllis Lindstrom. While Phyllis was beloved as a character on MTM, she worked as a supporting {{Foil}} to the protagonist Mary, as well as because of her dynamics with the rest of the cast. Essentially, Phyllis was a self-centered, entitled, well-meaning but well-meaning, pushy, insecure and oblivious social climber who who'd be tough to take on her own -- but she was made hilariously funny in the way that she interacted with Mary, Rhoda, and the WJM staff. The spin-off focused only on Phyllis and her daughter and attempted to soften the neurotic busybody in the hopes of making her more sympathetic as a lead, but it ended up removing exactly the qualities that made audiences like Phyllis in the first place. Not helping matters were the unexpected deaths of ''three'' major cast members in over the first season alone, relatively brief course of the series, as well as another prominent supporting actress Jane Rose falling ill, ill. Throughout the show's behind-the-scenes tragedies, the concept was re-jigged, new characters were added, they tried wedding episodes and surprise elopements -- but audiences just couldn't get invested in it. the series. Cloris Leachman herself expressed disappointment in it, ''Phyllis'', noting that it didn't recreate the magic that made the parent show work.
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* ''Phyllis'', the short-lived spinoff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', was based on Creator/ClorisLeachman's Phyllis Lindstrome. While Phyllis was beloved as a character, she worked as a supporting {{Foil}} to the protagonist Mary, as well as her dynamics with the rest of the cast. The spin-off focused only on Phyllis and her daughter and attempted to soften the neurotic busybody in the hopes of making her more sympathetic as a lead, but it ended up removing exactly the qualities that made audiences like Phyllis in the first place. Not helping matters were the unexpected deaths of ''three'' major cast members in the first season alone, as well as another prominent actress Jane Rose falling ill, and audiences just couldn't get invested in it. Cloris Leachman herself expressed disappointment in it, noting that it didn't recreate the magic that made the parent show work.

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* ''Phyllis'', the short-lived spinoff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', was based on Creator/ClorisLeachman's Phyllis Lindstrome. Lindstrom. While Phyllis was beloved as a character, character on MTM, she worked as a supporting {{Foil}} to the protagonist Mary, as well as her dynamics with the rest of the cast. Essentially, Phyllis was a self-centered, entitled, well-meaning but oblivious social climber who was made hilariously funny in the way that she interacted with Mary, Rhoda, and the WJM staff. The spin-off focused only on Phyllis and her daughter and attempted to soften the neurotic busybody in the hopes of making her more sympathetic as a lead, but it ended up removing exactly the qualities that made audiences like Phyllis in the first place. Not helping matters were the unexpected deaths of ''three'' major cast members in the first season alone, as well as another prominent actress Jane Rose falling ill, and audiences just couldn't get invested in it. Cloris Leachman herself expressed disappointment in it, noting that it didn't recreate the magic that made the parent show work.
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* Mich like ''Series/BirdsOfPrey2002'', ''Series/GothamKnights2023'' had an uphill battle and for the same reason and it and ''Series/{{Gotham}}'' got heat: a ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' series without the Dark Knight himself -- expect unlike ''[=BoP=]'', where Bruce Wayne merely retired, and ''Gotham'', where part of the story was Bruce growing up into becoming Batman, ''GK'' had its version of Batman dead as the thing that kicks off the plot, with the series focused on a CanonForeigner instead of Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake (all three thanks to their use in ''Series/Titans2018'') or Damian Wayne (due to being earmarked for Creator/JamesGunn's ''The Brave and the Bold'' film, as well as Stephanie Brown, Carrie Kelley from ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', Duela Dent, and Harper and Cullen Row. Naturally, like ''Birds of Prey'', it crashed and burned after one season.
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* ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' is a musical deconstruction of romcom clichés, in which the protagonist suffers from serious emotional issues and constant self-sabotage, and every move toward a happy ending is derailed by [[DeconstructorFleet running headlong into reality]]. The intersection between people who like comic musicals and those who like dark humor and cynical character studies is probably pretty small. Nonetheless, the combination of [[CriticalDissonance consistently glowing reviews]], [[MediaNotes/EmmyAward multiple awards]], and [[AdoredByTheNetwork strong network support]] kept it on the air for four seasons, despite generally dismal ratings.
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* ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' is a musical deconstruction of romcom clichés, in which the protagonist suffers from serious emotional issues and constant self-sabotage, and every move toward a happy ending is derailed by [[DeconstructorFleet running headlong into reality]]. The intersection between people who like comic musicals and those who like dark humor and cynical character studies is probably pretty small. Nonetheless, the combination of [[CriticalDissonance consistently glowing reviews]], [[UsefulNotes/EmmyAward multiple awards]], and [[AdoredByTheNetwork strong network support]] kept it on the air for four seasons, despite generally dismal ratings.

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* ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' is a musical deconstruction of romcom clichés, in which the protagonist suffers from serious emotional issues and constant self-sabotage, and every move toward a happy ending is derailed by [[DeconstructorFleet running headlong into reality]]. The intersection between people who like comic musicals and those who like dark humor and cynical character studies is probably pretty small. Nonetheless, the combination of [[CriticalDissonance consistently glowing reviews]], [[UsefulNotes/EmmyAward [[MediaNotes/EmmyAward multiple awards]], and [[AdoredByTheNetwork strong network support]] kept it on the air for four seasons, despite generally dismal ratings.
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* Most reviews of ''Series/{{Inhumans}}'' noted the problem in being expected to root for a group of elitist slave owners who benefit from and enforce a [[FantasticCasteSystem brutal caste system]] that they see no issue with, while considering the villain a character trying to tear it all down. Even comic books fans would hardly be interested, as there was an increased disdain for Creator/{{Marvel}}, and Ike Perlmutter in particular, pushing ComicBook/TheInhumans instead of the Franchise/XMen for the extremely petty reason of not having the movie rights to the X-Men at the time. The Mutants are easily relatable because they are RandomlyGifted victims of FantasticRacism; it's not as easy a sell with the Inhumans, who are a monarchy ''rooted on'' FantasticRacism, as it's heavy on intolerance and separatism.

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* Most reviews of ''Series/{{Inhumans}}'' noted the problem in being expected to root for a group of elitist slave owners who benefit from and enforce a [[FantasticCasteSystem brutal caste system]] that they see no issue with, while considering the villain a character trying to tear it all down. Even comic books fans would hardly be interested, as there was an increased disdain for Creator/{{Marvel}}, and Ike Perlmutter in particular, pushing ComicBook/TheInhumans instead of the Franchise/XMen ComicBook/XMen for the extremely petty reason of not having the movie rights to the X-Men at the time. The Mutants are easily relatable because they are RandomlyGifted victims of FantasticRacism; it's not as easy a sell with the Inhumans, who are a monarchy ''rooted on'' FantasticRacism, as it's heavy on intolerance and separatism.
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* ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' is a musical deconstruction of romcom clichés, in which the protagonist suffers from serious emotional issues and constant self-sabotage, and every move toward a happy ending is derailed by [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome running headlong into reality]]. The intersection between people who like comic musicals and those who like dark humor and cynical character studies is probably pretty small. Nonetheless, the combination of [[CriticalDissonance consistently glowing reviews]], [[UsefulNotes/EmmyAward multiple awards]], and [[AdoredByTheNetwork strong network support]] kept it on the air for four seasons, despite generally dismal ratings.

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* ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' is a musical deconstruction of romcom clichés, in which the protagonist suffers from serious emotional issues and constant self-sabotage, and every move toward a happy ending is derailed by [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome [[DeconstructorFleet running headlong into reality]]. The intersection between people who like comic musicals and those who like dark humor and cynical character studies is probably pretty small. Nonetheless, the combination of [[CriticalDissonance consistently glowing reviews]], [[UsefulNotes/EmmyAward multiple awards]], and [[AdoredByTheNetwork strong network support]] kept it on the air for four seasons, despite generally dismal ratings.
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* ''Series/{{Heathers}}'' had a core of an interesting idea in exploring how teen dynamics have changed in the 30 years since [[Film/{{Heathers}} the film]], and how a similar story might look in the new setting. Unfortunately, [[TaintedByThePreview the trailer was a massive turnoff]] as it gave the impression the crew went so far with this idea that they turned the show into a neo-conservative fantasy about a beleaguered attractive, straight white girl who wreaks righteous fatal justice on her overweight, non-white, and LGBT oppressors, without a shred of irony to be seen. When multiple school shootings in 2018 made it seem ''even more'' out of touch, Creator/ParamountNetwork initially pulled the show altogether. It finally aired in October 2018 over the course of a week and re-edited its final two episodes into one by way of dropping some of the more upsetting content, and its advertising decided to run with NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity, but it didn't work and it received lousy ratings at the end.

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* ''Series/{{Heathers}}'' ''Series/Heathers2018'' had a core of an interesting idea in exploring how teen dynamics have changed in the 30 years since [[Film/{{Heathers}} the film]], and how a similar story might look in the new setting. Unfortunately, [[TaintedByThePreview the trailer was a massive turnoff]] as it gave the impression the crew went so far with this idea that they turned the show into a neo-conservative fantasy about a beleaguered attractive, straight white girl who wreaks righteous fatal justice on her overweight, non-white, and LGBT oppressors, without a shred of irony to be seen. When multiple school shootings in 2018 made it seem ''even more'' out of touch, Creator/ParamountNetwork initially pulled the show altogether. It finally aired in October 2018 over the course of a week and re-edited its final two episodes into one by way of dropping some of the more upsetting content, and its advertising decided to run with NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity, but it didn't work and it received lousy ratings at the end.
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* Right from the outset ''Series/{{Clarice}}'' was fighting an uphill battle to gain an audience. It's a show based upon the Franchise/HannibalLecter franchise...that can't even ''[[ExiledFromContinuity mention]]'' Hannibal (or any characters and events outside of ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'') due to the [[ScrewedByTheLawyers complicated adaptation rights]]. Despite being a popular character, some had doubts about whether Clarice Starling could carry a show alone. Others were more optimistic, at least until they learned the show was structured like a [[ClicheStorm generic]] police procedural that was only loosely connected to the Hannibal franchise (with there already being dozens of other such shows, especially on CBS). Some fans of NBC's ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' had low interest in the show because it was clearly different in terms of tone and plot presentation to ''Hannibal'' (e.g. ''Hannibal'' leans more into GothicHorror and surrealism, while ''Clarice'' aims to be a more grounded crime drama), plus it takes place in a different continuity, meaning the characters familiar to these fans wouldn't be appearing. Consequently, the show suffered low viewership (the first episode premiered with 4 million viewers, which continued to drop with each episode) and was cancelled altogether one season in after it [[ScrewedByTheNetwork failed to be picked up for streaming]] (even though it was faring better digitally).
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* ''Phyllis'', the short-lived spinoff of ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', was based on Creator/ClorisLeachman's Phyllis Lindstrome. While Phyllis was beloved as a character, she worked as a supporting {{Foil}} to the protagonist Mary, as well as her dynamics with the rest of the cast. The spin-off focused only on Phyllis and her daughter and attempted to soften the neurotic busybody in the hopes of making her more sympathetic as a lead, but it ended up removing exactly the qualities that made audiences like Phyllis in the first place. Not helping matters were the unexpected deaths of ''three'' major cast members in the first season alone, as well as another prominent actress Jane Rose falling ill, and audiences just couldn't get invested in it. Cloris Leachman herself expressed disappointment in it, noting that it didn't recreate the magic that made the parent show work.


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* ''Time of Your Life'' was an attempted spin-off of ''Series/PartyOfFive'', following Jennifer Love Hewitt's Sarah Reeves as she goes to New York looking for her birth father. Although the actress had plenty of popularity as a TeenIdol, Sarah had been a supporting character and borderline SatelliteLoveInterest for Bailey in the parent show, and the premise of the spin-off saw them having to break up to allow her to have her own story - meaning the concept hinged on a supporting character having to carry a show on her own without the family dynamic that made ''Party of Five'' so appealing. Marketing didn't help, where the show was put on hiatus for five months during its first season alone, and attempts by the network to promote its return as 'The Summer of Love', hyping Jennifer Love Hewitt as MsFanservice yielded little results, given that Sarah was a GirlNextDoor on the parent show. Ultimately it was cancelled before all the episodes had even finished airing, and the full season didn't air until ''2021''.

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