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* Deceiver Excrucians in ''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'' love the entire world...it's just that the thing they love is underneath layers of perceived "lies" such as up, down, fish, arms, legs, life and death. One of the metaphors given in their third edition sourcebook is that of a guy watching a friend hang with an abusive lover, except that [[{{Metaphorgotten}} that abusive boyfriend is the entirety of existence]].

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* Deceiver Excrucians in ''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'' love the entire world...it's just that the thing they love is underneath layers of perceived "lies" such as up, down, fish, arms, legs, life and death. One of the metaphors given in their third edition sourcebook is that of a guy watching a friend hang with an abusive lover, except that [[{{Metaphorgotten}} that abusive boyfriend is the entirety of existence]].existence]].
* in the Freedom in the Galaxy boardgame, Senator Redmond is that. Although fully aware of the Empire's corruption, he wants to eradicate it by legal means and considers therefore the Rebels as an obstacle - thus lending his considerable diplomatic abilities to the Imperial side.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'': Shocking, yes, but underneath the ruthlessness, ambition and general evilness that being a vampire entails, Vlad von Carstein is actually kind of a decent guy. His past desire to conquer the Empire was rooted in a sincere concern that it was too weak and divided to stand up to Chaos and he would have done a better job of running it, and there's evidence he's right: it is noted in lore that Vlad is quite competent as a leader and administrator and he even understands that loyal human servants who will willingly associate with the undead are priceless, so humans under his rule can live quite prosperously. There's also his humanising and clearly genuine love for his wife Isabella.


* Chejop Kejak, leader of the Sidereal Bronze Faction in ''{{Exalted}}''. He masterminded the Usurpation, an event which wiped out the Solar Exalted and ended the Age of Dreams, because the alternative was to take a very risky path to redeem the Solars that would, in all probability, have led to the destruction of Creation. Unfortunately, the side effects of the destruction led to the creation of the Deathlords and the Great Contagion, and Creation only survived the backlash by sheer dumb luck and a foulup on a Deathlord's part; the fallout from that event and Kejak's emergency responses led to the creation of the modern Realm, a corrupt dynasty of Dragon-Blooded nobility far degraded from even the Shogunate. To make things worse, Kejak has developed into a KnightTemplar, constitutionally incapable of re-evaluating his standing agenda in light of the current situation. To be fair, that's the effect that the Great Curse has on all Sidereals, IIRC: to be completely unable to see any flaws in their primary motivation, whatever that may be.

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* Chejop Kejak, leader of the Sidereal Bronze Faction in ''{{Exalted}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''. He masterminded the Usurpation, an event which wiped out the Solar Exalted and ended the Age of Dreams, because the alternative was to take a very risky path to redeem the Solars that would, in all probability, have led to the destruction of Creation. Unfortunately, the side effects of the destruction led to the creation of the Deathlords and the Great Contagion, and Creation only survived the backlash by sheer dumb luck and a foulup on a Deathlord's part; the fallout from that event and Kejak's emergency responses led to the creation of the modern Realm, a corrupt dynasty of Dragon-Blooded nobility far degraded from even the Shogunate. To make things worse, Kejak has developed into a KnightTemplar, constitutionally incapable of re-evaluating his standing agenda in light of the current situation. To be fair, that's the effect that the Great Curse has on all Sidereals, IIRC: to be completely unable to see any flaws in their primary motivation, whatever that may be.


*** Speaking of which Ahriman himself very much also qualifies, both in the creation of the Rubric which he intended to use to save his brothers, and his quest for the Black Library which he intends to use to attain godhood so he can free his legion from Tzeentch's control.

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*** **** Speaking of which Ahriman himself very much also qualifies, both in the creation of the Rubric which he intended to use to save his brothers, and his quest for the Black Library which he intends to use to attain godhood so he can free his legion from Tzeentch's control.


*** The change was that it stopped being "let's become evil sorcerors", instead, he made a pact with Tzeentch to save his legion from extermination and it blew up in his face, killed everyone on his homeworld, and started Ahrimahn on the path that lead to the creation of [[AndIMustScream The Rubrick]].

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*** The change was that it stopped being "let's become evil sorcerors", instead, he made a pact with Tzeentch to save his legion from extermination and it blew up in his face, killed everyone on his homeworld, and started Ahrimahn Ahriman on the path that lead to the creation of [[AndIMustScream The Rubrick]].

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**** Speaking of which Ahriman himself very much also qualifies, both in the creation of the Rubric which he intended to use to save his brothers, and his quest for the Black Library which he intends to use to attain godhood so he can free his legion from Tzeentch's control.


** Nearly all [[DumbMuscle Ogyrns]] believe that all of their orders come from the Emperor Himself, being worked down through the chain of command. The forces of Chaos tragically exploited their child-like naivete during the Horus Heresy, with Ogyrn handlers turning to Chaos and then misleading their Ogyrns. Thus, many Ogyrns waged war against Loyalist forces believing that they were still fighting for the Emperor and the Imperium.

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** Nearly all [[DumbMuscle Ogyrns]] Ogryns]] believe that all of their orders come from the Emperor Himself, being worked down through the chain of command. The forces of Chaos tragically exploited their child-like naivete during the Horus Heresy, with Ogyrn Ogryn handlers turning to Chaos and then misleading their Ogyrns. Ogryns. Thus, many Ogyrns Ogryns waged war against Loyalist forces believing that they were still fighting for the Emperor and the Imperium.


* Strahd von Zarovich, seminal villain of the {{Ravenloft}} ''DungeonsAndDragons'' setting, flirts with the AntiVillain trope from time to time, particularly where his past history as a war-hero and his steadfast defense of Barovia from outsiders is concerned. The rest of his [[CainAndAbel past history]], together with the fact that he's a vampire defending his ''larder'', keeps him from slipping into it entirely.

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* Strahd von Zarovich, seminal villain of the {{Ravenloft}} ''DungeonsAndDragons'' TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}} ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' setting, flirts with the AntiVillain trope from time to time, particularly where his past history as a war-hero and his steadfast defense of Barovia from outsiders is concerned. The rest of his [[CainAndAbel past history]], together with the fact that he's a vampire defending his ''larder'', keeps him from slipping into it entirely.

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** Nearly all [[DumbMuscle Ogyrns]] believe that all of their orders come from the Emperor Himself, being worked down through the chain of command. The forces of Chaos tragically exploited their child-like naivete during the Horus Heresy, with Ogyrn handlers turning to Chaos and then misleading their Ogyrns. Thus, many Ogyrns waged war against Loyalist forces believing that they were still fighting for the Emperor and the Imperium.

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** The Eldar are usually this when presented as antagonists. They want to save the lives of their people. It's just that they don't care how many of ''your'' people's lives they have to sacrifice to do it.


* The Technocracy from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness are often considered this by some fans, having conquered the world and being hard-liners against too-free thought and "reality deviants" (mages) for the good of humanity. The thing is, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the version of reality they've enforced on the world really IS safer]], given that the prior 'Age of Myth' was a wonderful thing for mages, but a chaotic period of terror for the mundane. Now, the Sleepers do not have to (generally) worry about marauding monsters gobbling them up, but in return every aspect of their lives will be dictated by a group of people who strongly believe in AMillionIsAStatistic. It's a very GreyVsGrayMorality setting.
* In ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'', some of the nicer Lemurians can be this. Quite a few Lemurians are decent people who just happen to be [[MadScientist insane]]. However, they ''are'' insane, so they can turn from "nice, but deluded" to AxCrazy in a hurry. It doesn't help that they can [[PowerBornOfMadness make their crackpot theories actually ''work'']].

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* The Technocracy from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness are often considered this by some fans, having conquered the world and being hard-liners against too-free thought and "reality deviants" (mages) for the good of humanity. The thing is, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the version of reality they've enforced on the world really IS safer]], given that the prior 'Age of Myth' was a wonderful thing for mages, but a chaotic period of terror for the mundane. Now, the Sleepers do not have to (generally) worry about marauding monsters gobbling them up, but in return every aspect of their lives will be dictated by a group of people who strongly believe in AMillionIsAStatistic. It's a very GreyVsGrayMorality GreyAndGreyMorality setting.
* In ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'', some of the nicer Lemurians can be this. Quite a few Lemurians are decent people who just happen to be [[MadScientist insane]]. However, they ''are'' insane, so they can turn from "nice, but deluded" to AxCrazy in a hurry. It doesn't help that they can [[PowerBornOfMadness make their crackpot theories actually ''work'']].actually]] ''[[PowerBornOfMadness work]]''.



** To rephrase Kejak's actions' motivation and their consequences, Kejak acted as he did in order to save the world. As a result of his actions, the world has died by inches, growing less glorious and closer to destruction with each cataclysm (until the present, when it's getting glorious again but seems more doomed than ever). And he can't see, much less admit, that he's wrong. Perhaps the inevitable result of playing it safe in a setting that runs on the RuleOfCool taken SerialEscalation.

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** To rephrase Kejak's actions' motivation and their consequences, Kejak acted as he did in order to save the world. As a result of his actions, the world has died by inches, growing less glorious and closer to destruction with each cataclysm (until the present, when it's getting glorious again but seems more doomed than ever). And he can't see, much less admit, that he's wrong. Perhaps the inevitable result of playing it safe in a setting that runs on the RuleOfCool taken to SerialEscalation.



** When it comes to Warhammer 40,000, Cypher tohas is the absolute personification of this trope. His goal is possibly the most noble and true goal imaginable: [[spoiler: to reforge the sword he stole from the Dark Angels in his youth, and present it to the Emperor to attone for his considerable sins, which he knows will likely lead to his death]]. But because of the things he's done, it's impossible for him to go about it in any way resembling "good". Everyone in the galaxy sees him as a villain, he's infamous. But he's desperately trying not to be.

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** When it comes to Warhammer 40,000, Cypher tohas is the absolute personification of this trope. His goal is possibly the most noble and true goal imaginable: [[spoiler: to reforge the sword he stole from the Dark Angels in his youth, and present it to the Emperor to attone atone for his considerable sins, which he knows will likely lead to his death]]. But because of the things he's done, it's impossible for him to go about it in any way resembling "good". Everyone in the galaxy sees him as a villain, he's infamous. But he's desperately trying not to be.


*** Not ''quite'' on the nail there; the Emperor wanted the Space Wolves to bring Magnus (peacefully, unless Magnus disobeyed) to him to stand trial for his horrible crime he committed ([[spoiler:[[NiceJobBreakingItHero inadvertently breaking the wards]] that the Emperor had set up to protect Terra from an all-out demonic invasion of Terra through the Human Webway that the Emperor had secretly been working on, simultaneously destroying the project, which would have permanently united humanity when completed. Magnus broke the wards by using forbidden sorcery to deliver the message, and accepted power from Tzeentch to break through the wards protecting Terra, when he was unable to do so... not ''quite'' "in the right" for his actions]]). It was Horus who, by this point already corrupted by Chaos, ordered Leman Russ to invade and destroy Prospero instead. Though Magnus likely did not know that it was Horus who ordered the Fall of Prospero.

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*** Not ''quite'' on the nail there; the Emperor wanted the Space Wolves to bring Magnus (peacefully, unless Magnus disobeyed) to him to stand trial for his horrible crime he committed ([[spoiler:[[NiceJobBreakingItHero inadvertently breaking the wards]] that the Emperor had set up to protect Terra from an all-out demonic invasion of Terra through the Human Webway that the Emperor had secretly been working on, simultaneously destroying the project, which would have permanently united humanity when completed. Magnus broke the wards by using forbidden sorcery to deliver the message, and accepted power from Tzeentch to break through the wards protecting Terra, when he was unable to do so... not ''quite'' "in the right" for his actions]]). It was Horus who, by this point already corrupted by Chaos, ordered Leman Russ to invade and destroy Prospero instead. Though Magnus likely did not know that it was Horus who ordered the Fall of Prospero.


*** Not ''quite'' on the nail there; the Emperor wanted the Space Wolves to bring Magnus (peacefully, unless Magnus fought back) to him to stand trial for his horrible crime he committed ([[spoiler:[[NiceJobBreakingItHero inadvertently breaking the wards]] that the Emperor had set up to protect Terra from an all-out demonic invasion of Terra through the Human Webway that the Emperor had secretly been working on by using forbidden sorcery to deliver the message, and accepted power from Tzeentch to break through the wards protecting Terra, when he was unable to do so... not ''quite'' "in the right" for his actions]]). It was Horus who, by this point already corrupted by Chaos, ordered Leman Russ to invade and destroy Prospero instead.

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*** Not ''quite'' on the nail there; the Emperor wanted the Space Wolves to bring Magnus (peacefully, unless Magnus fought back) disobeyed) to him to stand trial for his horrible crime he committed ([[spoiler:[[NiceJobBreakingItHero inadvertently breaking the wards]] that the Emperor had set up to protect Terra from an all-out demonic invasion of Terra through the Human Webway that the Emperor had secretly been working on on, simultaneously destroying the project, which would have permanently united humanity when completed. Magnus broke the wards by using forbidden sorcery to deliver the message, and accepted power from Tzeentch to break through the wards protecting Terra, when he was unable to do so... not ''quite'' "in the right" for his actions]]). It was Horus who, by this point already corrupted by Chaos, ordered Leman Russ to invade and destroy Prospero instead. Though Magnus likely did not know that it was Horus who ordered the Fall of Prospero.

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*** Not ''quite'' on the nail there; the Emperor wanted the Space Wolves to bring Magnus (peacefully, unless Magnus fought back) to him to stand trial for his horrible crime he committed ([[spoiler:[[NiceJobBreakingItHero inadvertently breaking the wards]] that the Emperor had set up to protect Terra from an all-out demonic invasion of Terra through the Human Webway that the Emperor had secretly been working on by using forbidden sorcery to deliver the message, and accepted power from Tzeentch to break through the wards protecting Terra, when he was unable to do so... not ''quite'' "in the right" for his actions]]). It was Horus who, by this point already corrupted by Chaos, ordered Leman Russ to invade and destroy Prospero instead.


* The Technocracy from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness was definitely the DesignatedVillain of that line, having conquered the world and being hard-liners against too-free thought and "reality deviants" (mages) for the good of humanity. The thing is, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the version of reality they've enforced on the world really IS safer]], given that the prior 'Age of Myth' was a wonderful thing for mages, but a chaotic period of terror for the mundane.

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* The Technocracy from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' in the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness was definitely the DesignatedVillain of that line, are often considered this by some fans, having conquered the world and being hard-liners against too-free thought and "reality deviants" (mages) for the good of humanity. The thing is, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the version of reality they've enforced on the world really IS safer]], given that the prior 'Age of Myth' was a wonderful thing for mages, but a chaotic period of terror for the mundane. Now, the Sleepers do not have to (generally) worry about marauding monsters gobbling them up, but in return every aspect of their lives will be dictated by a group of people who strongly believe in AMillionIsAStatistic. It's a very GreyVsGrayMorality setting.

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