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** His relationship with Twilight; Is it a platonic/obsessive friendly antagonistic relationship much like Q and Picard? Or is it that Discord has a FoeYay with Twilight? It seems that Twilight is the only one he sees as a WorthyOpponent and constantly teases her like a childish boy does to girls he likes. His friendship with Fluttershy could be a way to get in good with her social circle and start making his moves there. To add ACI on that, is his relationship with Twilight a mirror image of his relationship with Celestia? Could it be now that Twilight is an Alicron, he's projecting his feelings of Celestia onto Twilight?

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** His relationship with Twilight; Is it a platonic/obsessive friendly antagonistic relationship much like Q and Picard? Or is it that Discord has a FoeYay with Twilight? It seems that Twilight is the only one he sees as a WorthyOpponent and constantly teases her like a childish boy does to girls he likes. His friendship with Fluttershy could be a way to get in good with her social circle and start making his moves there. To add ACI on that, is his relationship with Twilight a mirror image of his relationship with Celestia? Could it be now that Twilight is an Alicron, Alicorn, he's projecting his feelings of Celestia onto Twilight?



* Big [=McIntosh=]:

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** Between the aforementioned horned Big Mac in "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?", his [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Oubliettes and Orgres]] character in "Discord and Dragons" being a unicorn, and his new unicorn girlfriend in "Hard to Say Anything", it's possible that that he has a unicorn fetish.

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** Between the aforementioned horned Big Mac in "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?", his [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Oubliettes and Orgres]] Ogres]] character in "Discord "Dungeons and Dragons" Discords" being a unicorn, and his new unicorn girlfriend in "Hard to Say Anything", it's possible that that he has a unicorn fetish.


* Some people don't really buy Carrot Cake's explanation of why his children are a pegasus and a unicorn ([[GettingCrapPastTheRadar not that the show]] [[ChocolateBaby gives them much reason to]]). They believe that magical fertility treatments or infidelity may be involved somehow.

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* Some people don't really buy Carrot Cake's explanation of why his children are a pegasus and a unicorn ([[GettingCrapPastTheRadar not (not that the show]] show [[ChocolateBaby gives them much reason to]]). They believe that magical fertility treatments or infidelity may be involved somehow.


** Scootaloo is the only member of the [[PowerTrio Cutie Mark Crusaders]] who had had no familial connections shown or even hinted at until near the end of the series, and is rarely seen apart from her two closest friends. Additionally, she's a pegasus unable to fly for anything but short distances, and is rarely seen without her crude wooden scooter. As such, Scootaloo is often depicted as being stuck in an abusive family, or as a homeless orphan. Her statement in "Parental Glideance" that she's never had anybody to cheer her on the way Rainbow Dash's parents do could support both interpretations.

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** Scootaloo is the only member of the [[PowerTrio Cutie Mark Crusaders]] who had had no familial connections shown or even hinted at until near the end of the series, and is rarely seen apart from her two closest friends. Additionally, she's a pegasus unable to fly for anything but short distances, and is rarely seen without her crude wooden scooter. As such, Scootaloo is often depicted as being stuck in an abusive family, or as a homeless orphan. Her statement in "Parental Glideance" that she's never had anybody to cheer her on the way Rainbow Dash's parents do could support both interpretations. As of season 9, however, the "orphan" part is disproved with the reveal that both her parents are still alive.


* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are
that wild dragons tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and Spike's a NiceGuy because he was raised by ponies, while others suggest that adult dragons are powerful and dangerous when provoked but also intelligent and non-malicious, in which case they are the antagonists because we keep seeing them at their worst; the purple dragon had suffered a personal crisis, the red dragon was unreasonable because it was exhausted and the Mane Six kept interrupting his nap, the green dragon overreacted because he thought Spike wanted to steal all his food, and the teenage dragons were immature idiots that hadn't learned how to behave.

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* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are
are that wild dragons tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and Spike's a NiceGuy because he was raised by ponies, while others suggest that adult dragons are powerful and dangerous when provoked but also intelligent and non-malicious, in which case they are the antagonists because we keep seeing them at their worst; the purple dragon had suffered a personal crisis, the red dragon was unreasonable because it was exhausted and the Mane Six kept interrupting his nap, the green dragon overreacted because he thought Spike wanted to steal all his food, and the teenage dragons were immature idiots that hadn't learned how to behave.


** there's a theory that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sym1h72K2c Pinkie's a changeling]].

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** there's There's a theory that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sym1h72K2c Pinkie's a changeling]].



** While Discord has been given a clear character in the show, Sombra hasn't gone through any character development at all. The only thing we know about him is that he's power-hungry and strong enough to subjugate an empire and pose a threat to Celestia. ACIs about him largely go into one of the following:

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** While Discord has been given a clear character in the show, Sombra hasn't gone through any character development at all. The only thing we know about him is that he's power-hungry and strong enough to subjugate an empire and pose a threat to Celestia. ACIs [=ACI=]s about him largely go into one of the following:



* The land of Equestria as a whole might be a less-than utopian autocracy where the unicorns stay in power thanks to their control over magic and learning, and the pony population as a whole oppresses and even enslaves the other hoofed races. The posters in [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19993725/ this discussion thread]] analyze the show and eventually come to the conclusion that Equestria is basically a fascist utopia, rife with rigid caste systems, engineered environments, slavery, class imbalance, all controlled at the beck and call of an all-powerful, godlike being that somehow manages to keep her subjects ignorant of the underlying problems of their society. To make matters worse one could easily interpret the different friendship-related events to be BreadAndCircuses, which even the villain of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie2017 the movie]] brings up when she calls out Equestria for wasting all their time on parties rather than actually ''doing something'' about constant attacks, and that the series has consistently shown with creatures like the Windigos and ThePowerOfFriendship being literal that their celebration of friendship could be closer to a mandatory ritual than something done for the sake of friendship. Season 8 even showed that while there is an ''illusion'' of Equestria being a constitutional monarchy with laws and policies the princesses have to follow, they;re ultimately still free to bend, change, and outright break them on whims, which raises the troubling interpretation that the ponies are tricked into thinking they have rights and protections to keep them content. That Equestria seems to have no legal process whatsoever outside of "whatever the princess who decided to show up feels like doing that day" and casually ignores what are even the most basic human rights in our world when imposing the law certainly doesn't cast Equestria in a positive light either.
* Another theory is that Equestria ''used'' to be a facist caste system because of the the Hearth's Warming Eve play. It is the only time we see the ponies divided along earth pony/pegasus/unicorn lines and that is explicitly set in the past, implying that modern Equestria is much more racially balanced. If the unicorns somehow controlled all the learning and knowledge, then why is the most prominent teacher character an Earth pony? Also, if the unicorns oppressed the earth ponies in a 'first and second class citizen' manner, then why is the mayor of Ponyvile an earth pony and the Film Flam Brothers run out of town by angry customers? Queen Chrysalis being able to almost ''effortlessly'' sow distrust between the three pony types in no time at all in the SeriesFinale shows that, if this interpretation is true, the ponies have probably only been balanced this way for a very short amount of time and ''still'' deep-down harbor considerable dislike and distrust of one another.

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* The land of Equestria as a whole might be a less-than utopian autocracy where the unicorns stay in power thanks to their control over magic and learning, and the pony population as a whole oppresses and even enslaves the other hoofed races. The posters in [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19993725/ this discussion thread]] analyze the show and eventually come to the conclusion that Equestria is basically a fascist utopia, rife with rigid caste systems, engineered environments, slavery, class imbalance, all controlled at the beck and call of an all-powerful, godlike being that somehow manages to keep her subjects ignorant of the underlying problems of their society. To make matters worse one could easily interpret the different friendship-related events to be BreadAndCircuses, which even the villain of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie2017 the movie]] brings up when she calls out Equestria for wasting all their time on parties rather than actually ''doing something'' about constant attacks, and that the series has consistently shown with creatures like the Windigos and ThePowerOfFriendship being literal that their celebration of friendship could be closer to a mandatory ritual than something done for the sake of friendship. Season 8 even showed that while there is an ''illusion'' of Equestria being a constitutional monarchy with laws and policies the princesses have to follow, they;re they're ultimately still free to bend, change, and outright break them on whims, which raises the troubling interpretation that the ponies are tricked into thinking they have rights and protections to keep them content. That Equestria seems to have no legal process whatsoever outside of "whatever the princess who decided to show up feels like doing that day" and casually ignores what are even the most basic human rights in our world when imposing the law certainly doesn't cast Equestria in a positive light either.
* Another theory is that Equestria ''used'' to be a facist caste system because of the the Hearth's Warming Eve play. It is the only time we see the ponies divided along earth pony/pegasus/unicorn lines and that is explicitly set in the past, implying that modern Equestria is much more racially balanced. If the unicorns somehow controlled all the learning and knowledge, then why is the most prominent teacher character an Earth pony? Also, if the unicorns oppressed the earth ponies in a 'first and second class citizen' manner, then why is the mayor of Ponyvile an earth pony and the Film Flam Brothers run out of town by angry customers? Queen Chrysalis being able to almost ''effortlessly'' sow distrust between the three pony types in no time at all in the SeriesFinale shows that, if this interpretation is true, the ponies have probably only been balanced this way for a very short amount of time and ''still'' deep-down harbor considerable dislike and distrust of one another.


** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a {{Jerkass}} in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are

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** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a {{Jerkass}} in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.episodes.
* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are


** Interestingly, the Royal Guard and the Pegasi were able to hold their own against Sombra's army of mindless husks. Does that mean the husks are just as bad soldiers, or are the guard not quite as bad as we thought?

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** Interestingly, the Royal Guard and the Pegasi were able to hold their own against Sombra's army of mindless husks. Does that mean the husks are just as bad soldiers, or are the guard not quite as bad as we thought?thought? Or does the fact that they're evenly matched by untrained, unarmed, smaller numbers of mindless ''civilians'' serve as proof that they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag?



** Speaking of, did Spitfire ''actually'' have a change of heart at the end of ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E7WonderboltsAcademy Wonderbolts Academy]]'', or was she only suddenly concerned because the behavior she was encouraging now had happened to endanger a member of royalty? It's a little convenient, especially now that she's suddenly praising the leadership qualities of someone who showed no real leadership qualities all episode who she also just "coincidentally" learned is best buddies with said princess. After all, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E10RainbowFalls come next episode]] she's [[AesopAmnesia conveniently forgotten the moral lesson]] and turning her back on comrades for personal gain, so one wonders if she's not just [[ProfessionalButtKisser kissing up to Twilight by giving Rainbow Dash preferred treatment]] and [[TheScapegoat throwing Lightning Dust under the bus to pass the blame off of herself]].

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** Speaking of, did Spitfire ''actually'' have a change of heart at the end of ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E7WonderboltsAcademy Wonderbolts Academy]]'', or was she only suddenly concerned because the behavior she was encouraging now had happened to endanger a member of royalty? It's a little convenient, especially now that she's suddenly praising the leadership qualities of someone who showed no real leadership qualities all episode who she also just "coincidentally" learned is best buddies with said princess. After all, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E10RainbowFalls come next episode]] she's [[AesopAmnesia conveniently forgotten the moral lesson]] and turning her back on comrades for personal gain, so one wonders if she's not just [[ProfessionalButtKisser kissing up to Twilight by giving Rainbow Dash preferred treatment]] and [[TheScapegoat throwing Lightning Dust under the bus to pass the blame off of herself]]. Alternately, a later episode has her outright admit she's wanted Rainbow Dash in the Wonderbolts since day one: since she only "cared" about Lightning Dust's antics once Rainbow Dash tried to quit, it's quite possible her only motive behind firing Lightning Dust was merely to entice Rainbow Dash to stay and that if Dash hadn't tried to walk out she couldn't have cared less about Lighting Dust's antics.


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* Do the main characters [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] villains purely out of altruistic desires and ThePowerOfFriendship, or do they decide who they will and wonít forgive on [[BoxedCrook how useful the villains can be for the defense and protection of Equestria]]? The ponies who reformed the two biggest examples of reformed villains in ''MLP'' had ulterior motives for their actions. Discord was reformed because Celestia decided [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn his powers can be "used for good"]], and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 Starlight reformed just because she was a character Twilight personally sympathize with despite all of her crimes]]. Cozy Glow, on the other hand, is never even considered forgiveness despite her being a child and despite her actions being just as bad (if not worse) than all of the adult villains who received leniency in the eight seasons before she came along, and the series portrays her getting locked up in Tartarus for her crimes in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E25SchoolRazePart1 School]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E26SchoolRazePart2 Raze]]" and then [[spoiler: being [[TakenForGranite turned into a stone statue]] along with Tirek and Chrysalis in the GrandFinale]] as something she totally deserved with none of the characters expressing any remorse or regret at all for it, or even considering if she had a FreudianExcuse or could change for the better. While one can argue that the main characters decide who they will and wonít forgive on if they show remorse, as Discord and Starlight eventually had remorse over their villainous actions while Cozy Glow didnít, ''none'' of these villains showed any remorse at all for their actions after their first defeats so one could also just as easily argue that Cozy simply never got the same opportunity that the others got: the princesses swiftly turned her to stone after her second defeat without her so much as getting a word out, unlike Starlight and Discord who were allowed the chance to speak in their defense and put in an environment where they were given the opportunity to change for the better.




* Do the main characters [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] villains purely out of altruistic desires and ThePowerOfFriendship, or do they decide who they will and wonít forgive on [[BoxedCrook how useful the villains can be for the defense and protection of Equestria]]? The ponies who reformed the two biggest examples of reformed villains in ''MLP'' had ulterior motives for their actions. Discord was reformed because Celestia decided [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn his powers can be "used for good"]], and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 Starlight reformed just because she was a character Twilight personally sympathize with despite all of her crimes]]. Cozy Glow, on the other hand, is never even considered forgiveness despite her being a child and despite her actions being just as bad (if not worse) than all of the adult villains who received leniency in the eight seasons before she came along, and the series portrays her getting locked up in Tartarus for her crimes in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E25SchoolRazePart1 School]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E26SchoolRazePart2 Raze]]" and then [[spoiler: being [[TakenForGranite turned into a stone statue]] along with Tirek and Chrysalis in the GrandFinale]] as something she totally deserved with none of the characters expressing any remorse or regret at all for it, or even considering if she had a FreudianExcuse or could change for the better. While one can argue that the main characters decide who they will and wonít forgive on if they show remorse, as Discord and Starlight eventually had remorse over their villainous actions while Cozy Glow didnít, ''none'' of these villains showed any remorse at all for their actions after their first defeats so one could also just as easily argue that Cozy simply never got the same opportunity that the others got: the princesses swiftly turned her to stone after her second defeat without her so much as getting a word out, unlike Starlight and Discord who were allowed the chance to speak in their defense and put in an environment where they were given the opportunity to change for the better.

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* Do the main characters [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] villains purely out of altruistic desires and ThePowerOfFriendship, or do they decide who they will and wonít forgive on [[BoxedCrook how useful the villains can be for the defense and protection of Equestria]]? The ponies who reformed the two biggest examples of reformed villains in ''MLP'' had ulterior motives for their actions. Discord was reformed because Celestia decided [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn his powers can be "used for good"]], and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 Starlight reformed just because she was a character Twilight personally sympathize with despite all of her crimes]]. Cozy Glow, on the other hand, is never even considered forgiveness despite her being a child and despite her actions being just as bad (if not worse) than all of the adult villains who received leniency in the eight seasons before she came along, and the series portrays her getting locked up in Tartarus for her crimes in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E25SchoolRazePart1 School]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E26SchoolRazePart2 Raze]]" and then [[spoiler: being [[TakenForGranite turned into a stone statue]] along with Tirek and Chrysalis in the GrandFinale]] as something she totally deserved with none of the characters expressing any remorse or regret at all for it, or even considering if she had a FreudianExcuse or could change for the better. While one can argue that the main characters decide who they will and wonít forgive on if they show remorse, as Discord and Starlight eventually had remorse over their villainous actions while Cozy Glow didnít, ''none'' of these villains showed any remorse at all for their actions after their first defeats so one could also just as easily argue that Cozy simply never got the same opportunity that the others got: the princesses swiftly turned her to stone after her second defeat without her so much as getting a word out, unlike Starlight and Discord who were allowed the chance to speak in their defense and put in an environment where they were given the opportunity to change for the better.


** [[OurGriffonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on {{Jerkass}} thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.

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** [[OurGriffonsAreDifferent [[OurGryphonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on {{Jerkass}} thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.


** Since Twilight has the darkest hue of the Mane Six, it's not uncommon for Humanized fanart of her to depict her as Black, Asian, or Indian (mostly following the [[AsianAndNerdy various]] [[BlackAndNerdy common]] [[BollywoodNerd stereotypes]]). This doubles as a GeniusBonus as well: horses with dark coats in real life actually ''do'' have dark skin underneath.
*** Also interesting, given the pseudo-Greek aspects of Equestria and the ancient Greek RealLife belief that unicorns came from India.

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** Since Twilight has the darkest hue of the Mane Six, it's not uncommon for Humanized fanart of her to depict her as Black, Asian, or Indian Indian[[note]]Interesting, given the pseudo-Greek aspects of Equestria and the ancient Greek RealLife belief that unicorns came from India.[[/note]] (mostly following the [[AsianAndNerdy various]] [[BlackAndNerdy common]] [[BollywoodNerd stereotypes]]). This doubles as a GeniusBonus as well: horses with dark coats in real life actually ''do'' have dark skin underneath.
*** Also interesting, given the pseudo-Greek aspects of Equestria and the ancient Greek RealLife belief that unicorns came from India.
underneath.



** As of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E3TooManyPinkiePies "Too Many Pinkie Pies"]], Twilight is labeled as a mass murderer due to seemingly [[KillEmAll committing genocide on the Pinkie clones the moment they looked away from the paint wall]]. The entire discussion has sparked a strong back-and-forth debate on the episode discussions of Blog/EquestriaDaily and Website/YouTube about the nature of the clones, the Mirror Pool, and whether Twilight can be labeled as a murderer or not. Considering how in "A Canterlot Wedding" she had been [[spoiler:willing to kill Cadance, with only the SecretHandshake proving it was the real Cadance]], it's not much of a stretch to assume that...
*** Even ''that'' can be considered an ACI. [[spoiler:Was Twilight going to ''kill'' Cadance, or simply hurt her?]]

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** As of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E3TooManyPinkiePies "Too Many Pinkie Pies"]], Twilight is labeled as a mass murderer due to seemingly [[KillEmAll committing genocide on the Pinkie clones the moment they looked away from the paint wall]]. The entire discussion has sparked a strong back-and-forth debate on the episode discussions of Blog/EquestriaDaily and Website/YouTube about the nature of the clones, the Mirror Pool, and whether Twilight can be labeled as a murderer or not. Considering how in "A Canterlot Wedding" she had been [[spoiler:willing to severely harm, if not kill Cadance, with only the SecretHandshake proving it was the real Cadance]], it's not much of a stretch to assume that...
*** Even ''that'' can be considered an ACI. [[spoiler:Was Twilight going to ''kill'' Cadance, or simply hurt her?]]
that...



** Rainbow Dash is often implied to be a LazyBum, yet she has also been shown working her rump off when it's important to her (such as constantly practicing her moves) or to Ponyville (she's a team leader during Winter Wrap-Up). Is she lazy, or is she bored by what she sees as trivial duties and consequently slacks off? Given her preternatural skill in tasks she's interested in, such as being the only pony in recorded history to perform a Sonic Rainboom, she might be BrilliantButLazy.
*** "Testing Testing 1-2-3" adds a new layer to this by strongly implying that Rainbow Dash has a learning disability.

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** Rainbow Dash is often implied to be a LazyBum, yet she has also been shown working her rump off when it's important to her (such as constantly practicing her moves) or to Ponyville (she's a team leader during Winter Wrap-Up). Is she lazy, or is she bored by what she sees as trivial duties and consequently slacks off? Given her preternatural skill in tasks she's interested in, such as being the only pony in recorded history to perform a Sonic Rainboom, she might be BrilliantButLazy.
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BrilliantButLazy. "Testing Testing 1-2-3" adds a new layer to this by strongly implying that Rainbow Dash has a learning disability.



** After "Party of One" it became very common for fans to depict Pinkie as judging her self-worth entirely by her parties and how much other ponies enjoy them, which is used to explain why she's so eager to be happy and (literally) bouncy all of the time. Less common is the interpretation that she is outright mentally ill, with manic-depression and schizophrenia the usual suspects.
*** Another point of evidence to the former theory, in her "Smile" song, Pinkie sings "There's one thing that makes me happy and makes my whole life worthwhile / And that's when I talk to my friends and get them to smile."

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** After "Party of One" it became very common for fans to depict Pinkie as judging her self-worth entirely by her parties and how much other ponies enjoy them, which is used to explain why she's so eager to be happy and (literally) bouncy all of the time. Less common is the interpretation that she is outright mentally ill, with manic-depression and schizophrenia the usual suspects.
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suspects. Another point of evidence to the former theory, in her "Smile" song, Pinkie sings "There's one thing that makes me happy and makes my whole life worthwhile / And that's when I talk to my friends and get them to smile."



*** there's a theory that Pinkie's a changeling here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sym1h72K2c

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*** ** there's a theory that Pinkie's a changeling here: https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sym1h72K2ccom/watch?v=-Sym1h72K2c Pinkie's a changeling]].



*** Speaking of "Putting Your Hoof Down", did the entire town of Ponyville just happen to take about [[TookALevelInJerkass twelve levels of jerk-ass]] or, since this is the only time we've seen Fluttershy interact with them in general, is this how they [[FridgeHorror always treat her]]? It might explain why she tends to prefer the company of animals.
*** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a {{Jerkass}} in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.



*** Additionally, because of the numerous situations in which Fluttershy [[BewareTheNiceOnes kicks extreme amounts of flank]] (making a dragon cry, staring down a [[TakenForGranite cockatrice]], giving belly rubs to Cerberus, counter-trolling the spirit of chaos) it's common to depict her as the scariest pony in Equestria, and that those who know her know to be cautious around her.

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*** Additionally, because ** Because of the numerous situations in which Fluttershy [[BewareTheNiceOnes kicks extreme amounts of flank]] (making a dragon cry, staring down a [[TakenForGranite cockatrice]], giving belly rubs to Cerberus, counter-trolling the spirit of chaos) it's common to depict her as the scariest pony in Equestria, and that those who know her know to be cautious around her.



** [[TheHighQueen Princess Celestia's]] characterization can vary greatly depending on who you ask or what fanfiction or fanart you look at. Canonically she's a wise and loving BigGood, but in the fandom she is very prone to RonTheDeathEater characterizations.
** Some see her as a {{Troll}}, perhaps as an effect of her immortality and position making her day-to-day life very dull and thus she needs to have fun sometimes. She ''does'' demonstrate a more mischievous and fun side sometimes, such as inviting the Mane Six to the Grand Galloping Gala in the hopes they'll liven up the boring tradition for once. While she can still be loving and wise while this way, some fans go for full [[JerkassGods Jerkass God]] who toys with her subjects for her own amusement.
** There's also the interpretation that she's full evil, ruling a CrapsaccharineWorld as a vicious tyrant who enforces conformity, segregation and control. These can vary from her being a KnightTemplar who sees such control as needed to keep Equestria from falling apart, to DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, focused on keeping her control over the land by any means necessary.

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** [[TheHighQueen Princess Celestia's]] characterization can vary greatly depending on who you ask or what fanfiction or fanart you look at. Canonically she's a wise and loving BigGood, but in the fandom she is very prone to RonTheDeathEater characterizations.
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characterizations:
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Some see her as a {{Troll}}, perhaps as an effect of her immortality and position making her day-to-day life very dull and thus she needs to have fun sometimes. She ''does'' demonstrate a more mischievous and fun side sometimes, such as inviting the Mane Six to the Grand Galloping Gala in the hopes they'll liven up the boring tradition for once. While she can still be loving and wise while this way, some fans go for full [[JerkassGods Jerkass God]] who toys with her subjects for her own amusement.
** *** There's also the interpretation that she's full evil, ruling a CrapsaccharineWorld as a vicious tyrant who enforces conformity, segregation and control. These can vary from her being a KnightTemplar who sees such control as needed to keep Equestria from falling apart, to DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, focused on keeping her control over the land by any means necessary.



** The [[MemeticMolester "Molestia"]] interpretation is so common it comes with its own sub-categories; from a shiftless layabout who has grown bored of her duties and dodges administration to watch porn, to a [[ReallyGetsAround very open]] but harmless nympho with a [[SafeSaneAndConsensual light BDSM]] fetish (the most popular, thanks to the infamous ''Blog/AskPrincessMolestia'' blog), to a serial-rapist and pedophile.

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** *** The [[MemeticMolester "Molestia"]] interpretation is so common it comes with its own sub-categories; from a shiftless layabout who has grown bored of her duties and dodges administration to watch porn, to a [[ReallyGetsAround very open]] but harmless nympho with a [[SafeSaneAndConsensual light BDSM]] fetish (the most popular, thanks to the infamous ''Blog/AskPrincessMolestia'' blog), to a serial-rapist and pedophile.



** Another theory is that Equestria ''used'' to be a facist caste system because of the the Hearth's Warming Eve play. It is the only time we see the ponies divided along earth pony/pegasus/unicorn lines and that is explicitly set in the past, implying that modern Equestria is much more racially balanced. If the unicorns somehow controlled all the learning and knowledge, then why is the most prominent teacher character an Earth pony? Also, if the unicorns oppressed the earth ponies in a 'first and second class citizen' manner, then why is the mayor of Ponyvile an earth pony and the Film Flam Brothers run out of town by angry customers? Queen Chrysalis being able to almost ''effortlessly'' sow distrust between the three pony types in no time at all in the SeriesFinale shows that, if this interpretation is true, the ponies have probably only been balanced this way for a very short amount of time and ''still'' deep-down harbor considerable dislike and distrust of one another.

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** * Another theory is that Equestria ''used'' to be a facist caste system because of the the Hearth's Warming Eve play. It is the only time we see the ponies divided along earth pony/pegasus/unicorn lines and that is explicitly set in the past, implying that modern Equestria is much more racially balanced. If the unicorns somehow controlled all the learning and knowledge, then why is the most prominent teacher character an Earth pony? Also, if the unicorns oppressed the earth ponies in a 'first and second class citizen' manner, then why is the mayor of Ponyvile an earth pony and the Film Flam Brothers run out of town by angry customers? Queen Chrysalis being able to almost ''effortlessly'' sow distrust between the three pony types in no time at all in the SeriesFinale shows that, if this interpretation is true, the ponies have probably only been balanced this way for a very short amount of time and ''still'' deep-down harbor considerable dislike and distrust of one another.



* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are that wild dragons tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and Spike's a NiceGuy because he was raised by ponies, while others suggest that adult dragons are powerful and dangerous when provoked but also intelligent and non-malicious, in which case they are the antagonists because we keep seeing them at their worst; the purple dragon had suffered a personal crisis, the red dragon was unreasonable because it was exhausted and the Mane Six kept interrupting his nap, the green dragon overreacted because he thought Spike wanted to steal all his food, and the teenage dragons were immature idiots that hadn't learned how to behave.

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* The episode "Putting Your Hoof Down":
** Did the entire town of Ponyville just happen to take about [[TookALevelInJerkass twelve levels of jerk-ass]] or, since this is the only time we've seen Fluttershy interact with them in general, is this how they [[FridgeHorror always treat her]]? It might explain why she tends to prefer the company of animals.
** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a {{Jerkass}} in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.
* [[OurDragonsAreDifferent The nature of the dragons as a species is widely debated]]. Common interpretations are are
that wild dragons tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and Spike's a NiceGuy because he was raised by ponies, while others suggest that adult dragons are powerful and dangerous when provoked but also intelligent and non-malicious, in which case they are the antagonists because we keep seeing them at their worst; the purple dragon had suffered a personal crisis, the red dragon was unreasonable because it was exhausted and the Mane Six kept interrupting his nap, the green dragon overreacted because he thought Spike wanted to steal all his food, and the teenage dragons were immature idiots that hadn't learned how to behave.

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** Is Fluttershy ''actually'' the expert on animals she thinks she is, or is she a KnowNothingKnowItAll? While her ''intentions'' are kind, no less [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E10SwarmOfTheCentury than]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E22ABirdInTheHoof four]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E7Bats times]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS9E18SheTalksToAngel now]] she has made at best poor and naive decisions regarding the well-being and treatment of animals, leaving one to wonder if that's her norm or if we're just seeing her at her worst.


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* Some people have interpreted King Sombra's animalistic behavior as a sign his defeat and long imprisonment have driven him insane. While he ''was'' a nasty person ''before'' that, this would explain why he acts so feral and inequine. Celestia outright states he was "turned to shadow" when he was overthrown. The phrase "a shadow of his former self" springs to mind.


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** Some people have interpreted King Sombra's animalistic behavior as a sign his defeat and long imprisonment have driven him insane. While he ''was'' a nasty person ''before'' that, this would explain why he acts so feral and inequine. Celestia outright states he was "turned to shadow" when he was overthrown. The phrase "a shadow of his former self" springs to mind.

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** Speaking of, did Spitfire ''actually'' have a change of heart at the end of ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E7WonderboltsAcademy Wonderbolts Academy]]'', or was she only suddenly concerned because the behavior she was encouraging now had happened to endanger a member of royalty? It's a little convenient, especially now that she's suddenly praising the leadership qualities of someone who showed no real leadership qualities all episode who she also just "coincidentally" learned is best buddies with said princess. After all, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E10RainbowFalls come next episode]] she's [[AesopAmnesia conveniently forgotten the moral lesson]] and turning her back on comrades for personal gain, so one wonders if she's not just [[ProfessionalButtKisser kissing up to Twilight by giving Rainbow Dash preferred treatment]] and [[TheScapegoat throwing Lightning Dust under the bus to pass the blame off of herself]].


** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? ''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter: while this means only one villain succeeded and the rest were defeated, there's no word on whether Celestia or [[EnemyCivilWar the current dominant villain]] was responsible for it. Later episodes have attempted to [[AuthorsSavingThrow address this]] by claiming she [[WillfullyWeak holds her power back]] out of fear of harming others, but this raises other questions: does she honestly believe standing by and doing nothing, holding back to the point villains defeat her, and/or only relying on others ''actually'' endangers her subjects less than just fighting back herself?

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** One wonders how hard Celestia's job actually is on a normal day, and how much authority she actually has. She does a fine job leading when everything is going well, but the ''second'' things go south and she's called upon to take charge she begins making terrible decisions, gets defeated effortlessly, and has to sit back and hope others can save the day on her behalf. Perhaps she's actually a ''terrible'' leader outside of her ability to raise the sun and is merely a [[PuppetKing figurehead]] at best who is the "face" of an empire that's actually ran by others, and so everything goes fine until she's put on the spot and called upon to actually lead. Organizations like the EEA being able to tell Celestia what to do seems to suggest she actually makes very few decisions on her own, while Twilight Sparkle being able to easily do the job of both Celestia ''and'' Luna in the DistantFinale hints that perhaps she and Luna's duties aren't much of a burden since most of the work is done by others.
** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved perceived threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? ''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter: while this means only one villain succeeded and the rest were defeated, there's no word on whether Celestia or [[EnemyCivilWar the current dominant villain]] was responsible for it. Later episodes have attempted to [[AuthorsSavingThrow address this]] by claiming she [[WillfullyWeak holds her power back]] out of fear of harming others, but this raises other questions: does she honestly believe standing by and doing nothing, holding back to the point villains defeat her, and/or only relying on others ''actually'' endangers her subjects less than just fighting back herself?


* The Flim-Flam brothers coming back to help the heroes in the final battle. Is this a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in opposing three wannabe tyrants, or are they simply engaging in PragmaticVillainy since it would be hard to succeed in a dystopian hellhole?

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* The Flim-Flam brothers coming back to help the heroes in the final battle. Is this a case of EvenEvilHasStandards in opposing three wannabe tyrants, or are they simply engaging in PragmaticVillainy since it would be hard to succeed in a dystopian hellhole?
hellhole? Technically it could even be both.



** Speaking of, Shining Armor's personal BadassDecay over the series, going from a strong but outmatched BarrierWarrior who would bravely stand up to the likes of King Sombra and Lord Tirek to a helpless {{Dumbass In Distress|Disorder}} who cries at the drop of a hat and won't even try to fight anymore opens a lot of alternate interpretations . It may be he feels that what he does is a HopelessWar, as no matter how hard he or the guards fight they'll be stomped into the dirt without anyone of Equestria even seeming to care while the Mane Six show up to save the day and get all the glory, and so he come to figure [[DespairEventHorizon trying is pointless]] and now puts himself above his duty. After all, [[IronicEcho you can't have a nightmare if you never dream]]. More generously, it's possible he's simply a HouseHusband now who has no real duty or authority any longer, and now stands back with his daughter while others whose job it ''is'' to save Equestria get things done. Of course, it's also possible he was [[MilesGloriosus never a bad ass in the first place]] and was simply attempting to do a job he was KickedUpstairs into (it's a ''persistent'' theory that he was given command of the royal guard [[{{Nepotism}} because he's Twilight Sparkle's brother]], as ''many'' characters in the series were given jobs because they were friends or family of one of the princesses).



* A decent amount of fanfics like to give Star Swirled the Bearded an HistoricalVillainUpgrade.

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* A decent amount of fanfics like to give Star Swirled the Bearded an HistoricalVillainUpgrade. When he finally ''did'' make an appearance in {{Canon}} they weren't too far off the mark: while he was no villain he certainly [[GoodIsNotNice was a jerk]] who followed BlackAndWhiteInsanity to a T.

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