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* '''{{Fridge}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.
** However, there are a few compromises:
*** It's considered good practice to put a notice at the top of the page warning Tropers who stumble upon it of unmarked spoilers. Similarly, the page image cannot be a spoiler, as it's above the example line and the first thing most readers see.
*** As a courtesy, please do not spoil later installments or episodes in a subpage for an earlier installment or episode, so as to minimize the LateArrivalSpoiler effect. With {{Headscratchers}}, it can be tricky sometimes, as something that happens in that work may only be called into question by something that happens in a later work; future works may be ''referenced'' but not described.
*** Moments entries on general YMMV pages may have spoiler tags.
** Furthermore, WMG subpages house theories made by users familiar with the work. Spoiler tags there will defeat the purpose, and cases in which the theory header gets completely spoiler tagged along with the body are worse than no theory at all.

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* '''{{Fridge}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.
**
spoilers. However, there are a few compromises:
*** ** It's considered good practice to put a notice at the top of the page warning Tropers who stumble upon it of unmarked spoilers. Similarly, the page image cannot be a spoiler, as it's above the example line and the first thing most readers see.
*** ** As a courtesy, please do not spoil later installments or episodes in a subpage for an earlier installment or episode, so as to minimize the LateArrivalSpoiler effect. With {{Headscratchers}}, it can be tricky sometimes, as something that happens in that work may only be called into question by something that happens in a later work; future works may be ''referenced'' but not described.
*** ** Moments entries on general YMMV pages may have spoiler tags.
** Furthermore, WMG subpages house theories made by users familiar with the work. Spoiler tags there will defeat the purpose, and cases in which the theory header gets completely spoiler tagged along with the body are worse than no theory at all.



* '''Entries in CharacterSheets with [[WalkingSpoiler Walking]] or {{Late Arrival Spoiler}}s'''. Sometimes, some seemingly minor characters are so significant that discussing or even ''mentioning'' them would spoil a major plot point of a work, if not the entire work. In character pages for these works, these characters' entire entries could be spoiler-tagged to the point of the entry being unreadable to the average reader, making the effort pointless. Later works can also inadvertently spoil significant points about these characters if the reader hadn't read any prior works featuring them. Thus, it's recommended that character entries whose subjects fall under Walking and/or Late-Arrival spoiler have their spoilers un-tagged from the works' character pages; they can still be tagged on main, trivia and YMMV pages as well as other character entries mentioning the characters in question.
** '''However, a notice cautioning the reader about the spoiler-heavy character should be added at the top of these pages as a form of courtesy'''. If possible, give the character an alternate name for the entry folder while leaving their real name in the entry. If the character is part of a larger set of characters in a single folder (e.g. Roz from ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' being part of the "Monsters Inc. Staff" folder), please add a spoiler notice before the sub-entry.

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* '''Entries in CharacterSheets with [[WalkingSpoiler Walking]] or {{Late Arrival Spoiler}}s'''. Sometimes, some seemingly minor characters are so significant that discussing or even ''mentioning'' them would spoil a major plot point of a work, if not the entire work. In character pages for these works, these characters' entire entries could be spoiler-tagged to the point of the entry being unreadable to the average reader, making the effort pointless. Later works can also inadvertently spoil significant points about these characters if the reader hadn't read any prior works featuring them. Thus, it's recommended that character entries whose subjects fall under Walking and/or Late-Arrival spoiler have their spoilers un-tagged from the works' character pages; they can still be tagged on main, trivia and YMMV pages as well as other character entries mentioning the characters in question.
** '''However,
question. However, a notice cautioning the reader about the spoiler-heavy character should be added at the top of these pages as a form of courtesy'''.courtesy. If possible, give the character an alternate name for the entry folder while leaving their real name in the entry. If the character is part of a larger set of characters in a single folder (e.g. Roz from ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' being part of the "Monsters Inc. Staff" folder), please add a spoiler notice before the sub-entry.
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Another sinkhole. Also, italics for emphasis.


* '''Particularly old works.''' This basically encompasses works whose [[PublicDomainCharacter copyright has expired]] or which predate the very concept of copyright. In the vast majority of countries, this roughly coincides with anything OlderThanRadio (''e.g.'' anything by Creator/WilliamShakespeare). It certainly includes things OlderThanFeudalism, including mythology (''e.g.'' [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing Oedipus]]), legend (''e.g.'' Myth/RobinHood), or religion. There's no point in spoiling Literature/TheBible; The big exception is ''Theatre/TheMousetrap'', a play famous for [[DoNotSpoilThisEnding swearing its audience to secrecy]]. So long as it is [[LongRunner still running]], it will '''[[SeriousBusiness never]]''' be on this list.

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* '''Particularly old works.''' This basically encompasses works whose [[PublicDomainCharacter copyright has expired]] or which predate the very concept of copyright. In the vast majority of countries, this roughly coincides with anything OlderThanRadio (''e.g.'' anything by Creator/WilliamShakespeare). It certainly includes things OlderThanFeudalism, including mythology (''e.g.'' [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing Oedipus]]), legend (''e.g.'' Myth/RobinHood), or religion. There's no point in spoiling Literature/TheBible; The big exception is ''Theatre/TheMousetrap'', a play famous for [[DoNotSpoilThisEnding swearing its audience to secrecy]]. So long as it is [[LongRunner still running]], it will '''[[SeriousBusiness never]]''' ''never'' be on this list.

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Removed a sinkhole, fixed example indentation. Also seems like using spoiler text as a punchline is the same thing as sinkholes.


* '''Particularly old works.''' This basically encompasses works whose [[PublicDomainCharacter copyright has expired]] or which predate the very concept of copyright. In the vast majority of countries, this roughly coincides with anything OlderThanRadio (''e.g.'' anything by Creator/WilliamShakespeare). It certainly includes things OlderThanFeudalism, including mythology (''e.g.'' [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing Oedipus]]), legend (''e.g.'' Myth/RobinHood), or religion. There's no point in spoiling Literature/TheBible; sometimes [[RuleOfFunny it's funny]] to put [[spoiler:Jesus dies]] (but then [[spoiler:he comes back to life]]) in spoiler tags, but don't go overdoing it.
** '''The big exception:''' ''Theatre/TheMousetrap'', a play famous for [[DoNotSpoilThisEnding swearing its audience to secrecy]]. So long as it is [[LongRunner still running]], it will '''[[SeriousBusiness never]]''' be on this list.

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* '''Particularly old works.''' This basically encompasses works whose [[PublicDomainCharacter copyright has expired]] or which predate the very concept of copyright. In the vast majority of countries, this roughly coincides with anything OlderThanRadio (''e.g.'' anything by Creator/WilliamShakespeare). It certainly includes things OlderThanFeudalism, including mythology (''e.g.'' [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing Oedipus]]), legend (''e.g.'' Myth/RobinHood), or religion. There's no point in spoiling Literature/TheBible; sometimes [[RuleOfFunny it's funny]] to put [[spoiler:Jesus dies]] (but then [[spoiler:he comes back to life]]) in spoiler tags, but don't go overdoing it.
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The big exception:''' exception is ''Theatre/TheMousetrap'', a play famous for [[DoNotSpoilThisEnding swearing its audience to secrecy]]. So long as it is [[LongRunner still running]], it will '''[[SeriousBusiness never]]''' be on this list.
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* '''Particularly spoiler-heavy work pages and trope pages.''' This is true if the proportion of content that counts as spoilers is high enough that using spoiler tags would result in most of the page being spoilered out (namely in all DeathTropes; works with the volume of [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler Self-Fulfilling Spoilers]] that ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', and ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' do; and works as short as ''VisualNovel/AirPressure'', ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'', and ''VideoGame/EscapedChasm''), and ''especially'' if the trope examples or works are highly impractical to discuss without spoiling everything. However, trope examples from spoiler-heavy works may have spoiler tags on trope pages.

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* '''Particularly spoiler-heavy work pages and trope pages.''' This is true if the proportion of content that counts as spoilers is high enough that using spoiler tags would result in most of the page being spoilered out (namely in all DeathTropes; works with the volume of [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler Self-Fulfilling Spoilers]] that ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'', and ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' ''Manga/ShimejiSimulation'' do; and works as short as ''VisualNovel/AirPressure'', ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'', and ''VideoGame/EscapedChasm''), and ''especially'' if the trope examples or works are highly impractical to discuss without spoiling everything. However, trope examples from spoiler-heavy works may have spoiler tags on trope pages.
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* '''Particularly spoiler-heavy work pages and trope pages.''' This is true if the proportion of content that counts as spoilers is high enough that using spoiler tags would result in most of the page being spoilered out (namely in all DeathTropes; works with the volume of [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler Self-Fulfilling Spoilers]] that ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', and ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' do; and works as short as ''VisualNovel/AirPressure'' and ''VideoGame/EscapedChasm''), and ''especially'' if the trope examples or works are highly impractical to discuss without spoiling everything. However, trope examples from spoiler-heavy works may have spoiler tags on trope pages.

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* '''Particularly spoiler-heavy work pages and trope pages.''' This is true if the proportion of content that counts as spoilers is high enough that using spoiler tags would result in most of the page being spoilered out (namely in all DeathTropes; works with the volume of [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler Self-Fulfilling Spoilers]] that ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', and ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' do; and works as short as ''VisualNovel/AirPressure'' ''VisualNovel/AirPressure'', ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'', and ''VideoGame/EscapedChasm''), and ''especially'' if the trope examples or works are highly impractical to discuss without spoiling everything. However, trope examples from spoiler-heavy works may have spoiler tags on trope pages.
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That implies you can use spoiler tag for other Fridge like Fridge Horror.


* '''{{Fridge| Brilliance}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.

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* '''{{Fridge| Brilliance}} '''{{Fridge}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.
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* '''{{Fridge}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.

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* '''{{Fridge}} '''{{Fridge| Brilliance}} pages, Headscratchers/{{Headscratchers}}, WildMassGuessing pages, and the various "Moments" subpages (''e.g.'' SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, NightmareFuel, TearJerker).''' These are for post-viewing discussions of the work in question; everyone who reads them is assumed to have either already seen all there is to see or not care about seeing spoilers.
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* '''Well-known historical fact.''' If it happened in RealLife, there's no point in putting up spoilers on it. It would be pretty ridiculous to claim that the ship sinking in ''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}'' is a spoiler when it's based on an event that [[UsefulNotes/RMSTitanic has its own Useful Notes page]]. Obviously, this does not apply to things that aren't ''quite'' historical fact, such as [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory heavy dramatisations]], {{alternate histor|y}}ies, or interaction of fictional characters in historical events (especially where they're explicitly changing things from what we know as fact, such as BeenThereShapedHistory or BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy). And it's important that it be ''well-known''; if the plot twist is a very obscure historical event, it's probably better to make it a spoiler -- most of the audience won't know it and will still be surprised (and for the rest it's a GeniusBonus). Again, sometimes you can tag obvious historical fact as a spoiler [[RuleOfFunny if it would be funny]], but again, don't go overdoing it.

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* '''Well-known historical fact.facts.''' If it happened in RealLife, there's no point in putting up spoilers on it. It would be pretty ridiculous to claim that the ship sinking in ''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}'' is a spoiler when it's based on an event that [[UsefulNotes/RMSTitanic has its own Useful Notes page]]. Obviously, this does not apply to things that aren't ''quite'' historical fact, such as [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory heavy dramatisations]], {{alternate histor|y}}ies, or interaction of fictional characters in historical events (especially where they're explicitly changing things from what we know as fact, such as BeenThereShapedHistory or BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy). And it's important that it be ''well-known''; if the plot twist is a very obscure historical event, it's probably better to make it a spoiler -- most of the audience won't know it and will still be surprised (and for the rest it's a GeniusBonus). Again, sometimes you can tag obvious historical fact as a spoiler [[RuleOfFunny if it would be funny]], but again, don't go overdoing it.
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Removing this because I'm not sure why it specifically refers to putting in-work events on the YMMV page for the work they appear in; Hindsight examples for earlier works at least go on those works' YMMV pages


* '''Re-examination of past fictional events in a later installment.''' When dealing with things like FridgeBrilliance, HilariousInHindsight, or a HarsherInHindsight, it may be tempting to put a spoiler for a later installment when describing something that is seen in a new light because of events in that later installment. Don't put those details in the earlier installment's page ''at all''; only reference them in the page for the later installment (and in its YMMV page only), and only put the relevant Hindsight examples on the page for the earlier installment. If a plot element is re-examined because of RealLife events, then said tropes go in the YMMV page for the earlier work, and without spoiler tags.

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* '''Re-examination of past fictional events in a later installment.''' When dealing with things like FridgeBrilliance, HilariousInHindsight, or a HarsherInHindsight, it may be tempting to put a spoiler for a later installment when describing something that is seen in a new light because of events in that later installment. Don't put those details in the earlier installment's page ''at all''; only reference them in the page for the later installment (and in its YMMV page only), installment, and only put the relevant Hindsight examples on the page for the earlier installment. If a plot element is re-examined because of RealLife events, then said tropes go in the YMMV page for the earlier work, and without spoiler tags.
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Trying to reword this now that I think I deciphered it


* '''Re-examination of past fictional events in a later installment.''' When dealing with things like FridgeBrilliance, HilariousInHindsight, or a HarsherInHindsight, it may be tempting to put a spoiler for a later installment when describing something that is seen in a new light because of events in that later installment. Don't put those details in the earlier page ''at all''; only reference them in the page for the later work (and in its YMMV page only). If a plot element is re-examined because of RealLife events, then said tropes go in the YMMV page for the earlier work, and without spoiler tags.

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* '''Re-examination of past fictional events in a later installment.''' When dealing with things like FridgeBrilliance, HilariousInHindsight, or a HarsherInHindsight, it may be tempting to put a spoiler for a later installment when describing something that is seen in a new light because of events in that later installment. Don't put those details in the earlier installment's page ''at all''; only reference them in the page for the later work installment (and in its YMMV page only).only), and only put the relevant Hindsight examples on the page for the earlier installment. If a plot element is re-examined because of RealLife events, then said tropes go in the YMMV page for the earlier work, and without spoiler tags.
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moderator restored to earlier version
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Per discussion, the part about placement of Hindsight examples was inaccurate, but this section is confusingly worded and doesn't line up with anything I've previously seen involving these Audience Reactions.


* '''Re-examination of past fictional events in a later installment.''' When dealing with things like FridgeBrilliance, HilariousInHindsight, or a HarsherInHindsight, it may be tempting to put a spoiler for a later installment when describing something that is seen in a new light because of events in that later installment. Don't put those details in the earlier page ''at all''; only reference them in the page for the later work (and in its YMMV page only). If a plot element is re-examined because of RealLife events, then said tropes go in the YMMV page for the earlier work, and without spoiler tags.
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* '''JustForFun/TropeEpitaph''': A few old titles that had spoiler tags were [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler self-fulfilling]] given alphabetical ordering, with another making a poor spoiler out-of-context. Since a page's title cannot be redacted with a spoiler tag while still making sense, there's no point.

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* '''JustForFun/TropeEpitaph''': A few old titles that had spoiler tags were [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler self-fulfilling]] given alphabetical ordering, with another making a poor spoiler out-of-context.out of context. Since a page's title cannot be redacted with a spoiler tag while still making sense, there's no point.

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* '''JustForFun/TropeEpitaph''': A few old titles that had spoiler tags were self-fulfilling given alphabetical ordering, with another making a poor spoiler out-of-context. Since a page's title cannot be redacted with a spoiler tag while still making sense, there's no point.

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* '''JustForFun/TropeEpitaph''': A few old titles that had spoiler tags were self-fulfilling [[Administrivia/SelfFulfillingSpoiler self-fulfilling]] given alphabetical ordering, with another making a poor spoiler out-of-context. Since a page's title cannot be redacted with a spoiler tag while still making sense, there's no point.

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* '''JustForFun/TropeEpitaph''': A few old titles that had spoiler tags were self-fulfilling given alphabetical ordering, with another making a poor spoiler out-of-context. Since a page's title cannot be redacted with a spoiler tag while still making sense, there's no point.
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* '''CompleteMonster and MagnificentBastard pages.''' These are [[Administrivia/CompleteMonster complicated]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15255322860A44444400 tropes]], and they require one to have seen basically the entire work so as to have as much context as possible for said characters’ actions. As with the post-viewing discussion pages, it can be safely assumed that anyone reads these pages has seen the entire work. However, CompleteMonster and MagnificentBastard entries on general YMMV pages may be tagged.

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* '''CompleteMonster and MagnificentBastard pages.''' These are [[Administrivia/CompleteMonster complicated]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15255322860A44444400 [[Administrivia/MagnificentBastard tropes]], and they require one to have seen basically the entire work so as to have as much context as possible for said characters’ actions. As with the post-viewing discussion pages, it can be safely assumed that anyone reads these pages has seen the entire work. However, CompleteMonster and MagnificentBastard entries on general YMMV pages may be tagged.

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