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Glointhadark:Removed
"Futurama, the episode "Jurassic Bark", when Fry makes the supposedly moral decision to not clone his dead-for-a-thousand-years dog Seymour, since Seymour had lived for twelve years after Fry was frozen and had a long and happy life, and Fry didn't want to ruin that for him. Except Seymour actually didn't have a long and happy life: he spent the remaining twelve years of his life sitting in front of Fry's pizzeria until he died, waiting for his master to come back to him. Fry outlived him in the cyro tube by nearly a millennium, so he never did come. And he never knew. And never will know. God damn... ◦Bender's Big Score puts a happy spin on the tale. Thanks to some wacky time travel and duplicate shenanigans, Fry, or rather a copy of one, got to live in the 21st century and be with his family and Seymour. Seymour in fact lives a long and happy life with his master, up until he got fossilized when Bender tried to kill Fry. Long story."
While it was a twist ending, it didn't change the direction of the show in any way and is not relevent to the trope
The Bad Wolf: to clarify the Bstar thing in case anyone cares (doubtful) the other part II wham episodes I'm referring to are home part II everything is patched up between all the characters in a massive bout of forgiveness erasing the whole plot from the previous 8 episodes. Also they finally have proof the earth is real. and resurrection part II (the who whole 3 episode arc is the wham episode) where they score a massive victory against the cylons which causes them to change up their tactics for a good season, that ship that showed up 2 episodes previously that you just new wasn't going to make it very far with out blowing up, yea its now a permanent part of the fleet, and oh yea Apollo starts becoming a whiny emo bitch, in spectacular fashion.
Tabby: Putting it on the page proper before we actually get to see the fallout would be counting the chickens before they're hatched, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that tonight's episode of Heroes will definitely qualify.
Seth: Last week where Peter got controll of his powers and Simone died i would call a Wham Episode. Its the last thing i saw coming
Lale: Are these examples where a genuinely surprising twist was pulled off? If so, should this be listed under Twist Ending, or at least a new Twist Ending entry created like Genuine Twist for when twists succeed?
Ununnilium: Yes, no, and no. This isn't just a successful twist ending; it's a twist that changes the entire direction of the show. An individual episode can have its own, self-contained plot resolved with an unexpected, satisfying twist, but that's not a Wham Episode.
Charred Knight: This is one of the reasons you can't have them in conseutive episodes. You can't change the direction of the show in consecutive episodes. If you think one is a wham but the next episodes shows that the previous episode was nothing compared to the next one, than the previous one was obvously not an actual wham.
Charred Knight: added two, deleted one that was just a small reveal, and changed the Code Geass one to match the complaint in Discontinuity. The problem isn't that a character both Lelouch, and Suzaku loved is killed turning both into hateful rivals, the problem is that the damn thing was poorly done since it was forced. The entire event is so unlikely that it ruins the episode. Its a poor attempt to recreate the death of Lalah Sune
Looney Toons: Acting on the unnamed snark about Happy Feet.
Charred Knight: Some people are confusing Wham Episode with a shocking moment. Was Suzaku killing Lelouch a shocking moment? Yes, a great moment, but the problem is that since its the finale, the episode itself does not take the series in a new direction since the series is over. Its why its called a finale.
Tanto: This page is absolutely hideous. It really needs a general spoiler warning at the top, then a bunch of the spoiler tags stripped away.
Charred Knight: Deleted most of the Code Geass examples for this reason, I condensed it into mentioning that they do this alot. Just so I can keep my sanity
Charred Knight: I reccomend someone clean up Battle Star Galatica, a Wham Episode is a specific thing, it is when something happens that changes the direction of a show. A lot of times people add fallout as an additional wham when its simply fall out. For example Fealiz Gaeta starting a mutiny is the wham, the deaths, and failure of the mutiny was the fall out. Obviously after a wham theirs going to be massive upheaval thats why its called a Wham Episode. If it didn't cause massive upheaval it wouldn't be a wham episode.
For example while Gundam 00 really only has three wham episodes the apperance of the GNX, the hacking of Veda, and Ribbons taking over the world, alot of people proclaimed that the entire second half was wham just because of the Upheaval, like Lockon dying when Lockon's death wasn't felt until the second season.
Freezer: Snipped this bit from the College Roomies From Hell entry:
- In Mike's defense, it wasn't actually him. He was possesed by Satan at the time.
Furi Kuri: Removed:
- The "Stop & Go Station" level from Donkey Kong Country. Suddenly a fun kiddie game about monkeys and bananas becomes... horrifying.
Max Chaplin: Correct me if I'm wrong, but this page isn't really about twist endings, but about twists middles. The Wham could as well occur in the beginning of an episode, though it's rare because serialized media wouldn't waste a Cliffhanger.
—- Narvi: I reeeeeeeellly think we need a better picture. I don't see the point of showing some guy be bummed. Maybe something general but non-spoilerrific, like... I dunno. A dragon snapping a knight's sword or something. —-
Lord Il Palazzo: Would someone mind elaborating a bit on the The Spectacular Spider-Man example. As always, "Nuff Said" isn't nearly enough said.
