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- Avatar The Last Airbender: It's stated that a firebender can only bend lightning when their heart is calm and peaceful. So by all logic, Azula's Villainous Breakdown should have kept her from using lightning. No explanation is given as to why she's able to use it even though her heart is VERY FAR from peaceful.
- She's too insane to be bound by "rules" at that point.
- Sozin's Comet makes all Firebending enormously easier to perform than normal, which would include bending lightning.
- It boosted power, but there is no indication of helping with fine control. Perhaps she is Just That Damn Good.
- This troper always assumed that she was so well practiced that she was able to instinctively calm herself despite her mood.
- Rule of Frickin' Awesome. Or, for a more fanwanky explanation, we know that even expert firebenders don't necessarily know everything important about their art, so Iroh's statement about the requirements for lighting-bending didn't have to be the last word on the subject. A technique employed by so few firebenders is probably not that well understood, either.
- I saw it as a requiremet that to create lightning, a firebender's spirit had to be pure, but didn't say pure what, Azula being the first lightning-level Firebender to be pure loonbat insane.
-Deleted for Natter. Seriously, don't Avatar fans understand what the Discussion page is for? And does there need to be a giant wall of Justifying Edits wherever it looks like someone might have criticized your precious children's tv show?
Working Title: Did Not Research The Show: From YKTTW
Fast Eddie: My impression: This is another duplicate on the Continuity Tropes index.
Tzintzuntzan: Which of the other Continuity Tropes does it duplicate? The idea seems to be simple flat-out error, as opposed to deliberate Retcon. (Granted, it's sort of a proto-page now, so it doesn't reflect this yet.)
Fast Eddie: 'Snarl, mostly. I guess I see the case being made that this is what results from a 'snarl — or that this causes it. I guess if this is just intended to be a place to list continuity blunders/bloopers, its discrete enough.
Document N: Actually, I think it duplicates Retcon with the major cases and Continuity Drift with the minor ones, actually.
Tzintzuntzan: The weird thing is that while Continuity Snarl explains the concept of a show getting self-contradictory and tangled, we don't seem to have any page that explains the very concept of continuity itself. (It's one of those tropes that's so basic that it didn't seem to need an entry for so long.) Maybe this could be it.
Fast Eddie: It could be. That is probably what's missing. The title would indicate that it has to do with story continuity, rather than those little blooper-sized things that drive the "continuity" person nuts on film sets, like a vase hopping around the room or a scar jumping from cheek-to-cheek. So, some text to that effect may help. //Later: Really, the "What is continuity" text should go in the Continuity Tropes page itself.
Document N: We could create a page for Tight Continuity, but first we'd have to decide whether that meant tightly maintained or tightly interconnected.
Lord TNK: The Ferengi example is more of a Flanderization, that was deliberately done due to the failure of them to come off as a credible threat.
Idle Dandy: I'm not usually in the habit of decreasing the wicks count for Lost, but I snipped:
- Lost: In season 1 Charlie says he can't swim, and probably has no reason to lie. By season 3 he's a excellent swimmer who can dive all the way down to the underwater Looking Glass station. It should be noted, however, that in the same episode he has a flashback of learning to swim by not being caught by his father when diving into a pool. It's possible that he has a phobia of swimming that was heroically overcome.
Count Dorku: The Tom Holt example is only here because a) it is something of a continuity error and b) I know there's a trope for Phlebotinum flaws being forgotten, but I don't know what it's called. If anyone could help out, I'd be very grateful.
KJMackley: I removed this because it was discussed and resolved in the main page. Han wasn't saying "Jedi? Force? Never heard of them." He was saying, "I don't believe in your religion." Which makes sense considering there was that Imperial Officer who made essentially the same remark to Vader, to his own stupidity.
- The Star Wars prequels have a big one. In A New Hope, Han expresses disbelief in the Jedi and the Force, even though the former used the latter to police a fair chunk of the galaxy until he was about 13. However, his already established backstory puts him working on a freighter at the fringes until he was roughly that age. Some of this can also be attributed to Imperial propaganda.
- Well to be fair we do have the earlier example in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction where a young Bane living on the fringe at a time when the Jedi and Sith are fighting each other in open warfare across the galaxy thinking that most of the powers the force offers must be made up, because they don't seem to make sense. In context, having lived on the fringe of society and never seen a jedi do anything incredible it would seem to be reasonable to assume it was all just a hokey religion that people put too much credit in, especially since those super-powerful jedi with the magic force were killed by ordinary soldiers with guns and armor.
- Considering that the Jedi Knights were around for millenia, and openly so, not believing in them or the force would be rather like not believing in elephants. Just because you've never seen one doesn't make the body of knowledge wrong, and you'd have to be pretty nutty to conclude otherwise.
- To be fair, Han could have simply been expressing doubt about the SOURCE of their powers, rather than the ability of the Jedi to move things with their minds (although the fact that he couldn't accept Luke blocking the remote blasts as more than luck seems odd if this is the case).
- A better explanation can be found in the "There's certainly no mystical energy field controlling my destiny" line. Essentially, Solo is a believer in No Fate.
- Well to be fair we do have the earlier example in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction where a young Bane living on the fringe at a time when the Jedi and Sith are fighting each other in open warfare across the galaxy thinking that most of the powers the force offers must be made up, because they don't seem to make sense. In context, having lived on the fringe of society and never seen a jedi do anything incredible it would seem to be reasonable to assume it was all just a hokey religion that people put too much credit in, especially since those super-powerful jedi with the magic force were killed by ordinary soldiers with guns and armor.
