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Doug S. Machina: I was taken in until the end. That'll teach me to pay attention.


Zeta: I'm confused. How do the Vampires work into things?


Air Of Mystery: Will there be a second series?


Seth: What is this page for?

Fast Eddie: Laughs.

Tanto: This is the greatest thing in the history of things.

Seth: So this is to poke fun at people who put their series everywhere even when the trope doesn't apply?

Seven Seals: I've seen more than a few trope examples that were stretched way too thin, and it's no coincidence that those examples usually come from the popular shows ("I just know <my favorite trope-laden show> did something just like this, sort of"). That said, the joke could be better. For one thing, The Fellowship of the Ring isn't a series (though it'd be interesting if it were, since you could easily trope it up).

Dark Sasami: I'm pretty sure it's Fellowship in order to catch nerds who try to fix it. I came ==><== this close.

Ununnilium: XD Awesome.

Pavlov: You guys better be careful. This is how Lingerie Soldier Papillon Rose got started!

Seth: I can see this page getting massive, how do you suppose you could play two tropes that are the total opposites of each other in the same story? (we already have one trope marked up Truth in Television and Tropes Busted By Mythbusters)

Roland: Somebody ought to do a couple of shows or comics or something of this. It'd be hilarious. :-)

Morgan Wick: We could do an "episode guide" to assist in cramming as many tropes in this "show" as possible.

Seth: That sounds like fun.

HeartBurn Kid: Hey, I know we have actual TV guys here; I'll give one of you $3.50 and a bottle of Newcastle if you actually pitch this to a network. :)

Seth: This would never pass copyright.

Robert: Maybe. There are exceptions for parody. Also, over in rec.arts.sf.written, it's said that books sell best with any of dragons, dinosaurs, scantily-clad women, and exploding spaceships on the cover — ideally all at once. Similarly, the ideal title would be something like The Vampire Sword of the Dragon Prince.

Morgan Wick: Hey, for most of the time I've been here I've had an idea for a show that would subvert, lampshade, or otherwise lampoon almost every trope on here. It would be a Speculative Fiction show, perhaps a Wagon Train to the Stars, about a ship manned by a Five-Man Band, with No Fourth Wall and certainly no Genre Blindness. All original characters and concepts, of course, but certain shows would be fair game for parody. The tropes targeted wouldn't be limited to general and Speculative Fiction Tropes, either - I'd be aiming for a show so madcap that just about anything can happen, yet still sensical.

Fast Eddie: The episode guide could be fun. Let's set some ground rules. Here's my proposed set:

  • One author per episode. Edits are to help with grammar and clarity, not story. Story changes can be hashed out in discussion, but whoever had dibs on the episode title makes the call.
  • You can push a Reset Button on someone else's eppy, but you can't pull a Snapback.
  • If you kill a bandmember (Vamp Bender), you have to set up how they continue to be a bandmember in subsequent eppies.
  • Document style is "recap" (or extended "treatment") not "script".
  • Entry titles have the form A Three Hour Tour (That is: AATAFOVS/AThreeHourTour).

If all that is agreeable, have at it!

Robert: Sounds good. None of the Dark Council should be permanently killed either — supervillains are too cool to die. Handwave dark fluffykins away as possession by the thing with a thousand faces.

Fast Eddie: Sounds good. I'd suggest moving the Citadel of Evil setup out to an eppy.

Seven Seals: It might be a good idea to add a category to each of these things, lest we become unable to separate fiction from fiction.

Fast Eddie: They are in a group (AATAFOVS) and each should have the Episode Guide header. If that isn't enough clues ... not sure what would be.

Seven Seals: Blame it on my Wikipedia mindset. We categorize everything, man.

Seth: I will create an index page so we can find them all quickly, but i have no idea how to make it an official one on an offshoot of the Wiki.

AATAFOVS.Episode Guide

HeartBurn Kid: Heh, talk about your synchronicity. I've been trying to do the same thing, but can't figure out how to make it create the index links at the bottom of the page.

YYZ: No offense to Jisu, but if xie doesn't stop putting Soukou No Strain references into everything, I'm going to suggest we start pondering ways to add that show to the title - and just while I'm at it I'm going to throw Keroro Gunsou in as well.

Fast Eddie: I think pulling the Evil Dramatis Personae out to its own entry is indicated.

Thrawn: If no one dies, how can it fit with the "Killed Off for Real" trope? I suggest using it in some spinoff of AATAFOVS or episode that is referred to (ie foreshadowed to, retconned against etc), but never actually gets a page. It would be like a Noodle Incident.

SpiriTsunami: Actually, they have had a member of the Dark Council die for real. See here.


L: I always thought the most referenced series on this wiki was Kim Possible.

seth: Not quite but it is up there, see Trope Overdosed for a list.

SAMAS: Having read up to parts of the Evil Dramatis Personae, I feel compelled to ask:

Have you all lost your Goddamn minds? ^_^

Scientivore: WTF? ... I'm going to assume that this is Difficult Art and that I'm just not sophisticated/jaded enough to appreciate it yet.


Fast Eddie: sockatume, that was the joke. You cut the joke. Don't cut the jokes. We need the jokes. :-)
Fast Eddie: Opening the floor for suggestions on an AATFOVS icon for use in the header of the episodes and in Recent Changes, like we do for WMG and Just Bugs Me.
32_Footsteps: One question. If I made intentionally bad Mary Sue fanfic for this series, would that be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever? Or both simultaneously?

Sikon: Just do it. It doesn't matter.


SpiriTsunami: Seriously, something has to be done about the current fauxness of this all. If it could become a real series, that'd be ideal, but it's probably best to start small. Writing full scripts instead of summaries would be nice, but more importantly, do we have any good descriptions of the characters? I don't remember any. I know some generalities, but nothing specific. Rule 34 states that "if it is out there, the likelihood that there is erotic fan material of it becomes 100%," and "There is porn of it. No exceptions." Rule Thirty Five reinforces this by saying that "if porn of it does not exist, it will be created." Without any official artwork (which would of course not be erotic...okay, Cleo's might be kind of erotic), AATAFOVS will stubbornly remain in Rule Thirty Five's jurisdiction rather than Rule 34's. (If there is any art, official or unofficial, non-erotic or erotic, I would appreciate it if someone would direct me to it.)

Inkblot: Agreed. Someone needs to make this into a webcomic, or a Flash miniseries, or something.


Janitor: The descriptions here were much better, in my opinion. What were the issues?

Hero  Avatar McPotter Leader, painfully earnest young man with an amazing ability to construct useful tools out of nothing but bottle caps and baling wire
Lancer  Solo McPotter Avatar's older brother, the one with the rap-sheet and the alcohol issues.
Big Guy  Sue Female body-builder whose primary weapon is a 45-pound dumbbell used to whack things. Has a "thing" for Nerdly.
Smart Guy  Nerdly Always has the correct solution for the situation, can never sell it to Avatar or Solo. Terrified of Sue.

Mjb: They weren't actually true anymore. Avatar was able to make useful tools, but I'm not sure "earnest" was the right word. Solo went on self-imposed rehab. Sue never really used her dumbell, and I specially wrote her part in newer episodes just so the "bodybuilder" claim would work. And seriously, no one cared what Nerdly said. There were almost no relationships present, despite the "love square" present in our original description. I personally wrote the main occasion where Sue expressed the "thing". In short, I did what I could for the description, but after Cleo went out and Krystal came in, it seemed like time for an update. The old description can be found at Main Characters. Though you know what? The new descriptions suck, it's true. Please go ahead and put something new in as long as it reflects the present as opposed to the ideals at the beginning.
Mjb: Fair enough, the new description melds a few of the old/new features and simplifies the rest. Good.

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