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** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Aegislash]], God of [[DefendCommand Defend Commands]]''': Old draft here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=358 Aegislash]]
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Komala]], God of [[LaidBackKoala Laid-Back Koalas]]''' (Hall of Mammals, TrueNeutral)
** '''[[Series/DoctorWho Donna Noble]], Goddess of MissingTheGoodStuff'''
** '''[[Series/DoctorWho Cardiff]], Divine [[AliensInCardiff Small Town With Supernatural Occurrences]]'''



** '''[[Series/DoctorWho Donna Noble]], Goddess of MissingTheGoodStuff'''
** '''[[Series/DoctorWho Cardiff]], Divine [[AliensInCardiff Small Town With Supernatural Occurrences]]'''
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Aegislash]], God of [[DefendCommand Defend Commands]]''': Old draft here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=358 Aegislash]]
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Komala]], God of [[LaidBackKoala Laid-Back Koalas]]''' (Hall of Mammals, TrueNeutral)



** '''[[ComicBook/{{Bedlam}} Fillmore Press]], God of BehavioralConditioning'''
** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd'''



* New ideas (main focus)-13/20. Feel free to PM and adopt if you want to.

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** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 Corrodium]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. Corrodium is a notable phlebotinum from the Ben 10 franchise, mainly associated with aliens from the Anur system. It's this purple and potent energy source that acts as a mutagen to most non-Anur lifeforms, and is a plot device by Zs'skayr and his associates. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4468 Original version here]]
** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 The Anur System]], Celestial Seat Of [[HomeOfMonsters Monster-Inhabited Worlds]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. The Anur System is a mysterious and spooky star system in the Ben 10 universe. It is a MonsterMash where the aliens there look and act very similarly to classical monsters and spooky folks from Earth. They've got aliens that are like ghosts, mummies, Frankenstein's Monster, werewolves and even vampires...well, sort of, Vladats are endangered nowadays.
** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring
** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 2/3



** '''[[ComicBook/{{Supergod}} The Supergods]], Unholy Octect Of SuperheroHorror''': these eight superhumans are an attempt to ask "what would happen if superheroes were [[CosmicHorrorStory cosmic horrors]]?" These are [[AGodAmI god-complexed]], BlueAndOrangeMorality [[HumanoidAbomination abom]][[TranshumanAbomination inations]] who with the exception of Morrigan Lugus were a DeityOfHumanOrigin. Made as superweapons, they soon spiral out of control with Earth soon becomes their playthings, for they are far from the friendly superheroes we're used to%%Proposed 1/3



** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd''': ''Carol And The End Of The World'' is a limited series where a planet is discovered to be destined to collide with and destroy the Earth. It explores people getting their affair in order and living with the apocalypse months away. Carol Kohl is the main character, an everywoman who is trying to figure out how to spend her last moments.%%Proposed 1/3



** '''[[ComicBook/{{Bedlam}} Fillmore Press]], God of BehavioralConditioning''': Fillmore Press was once Madder Red, a PracticallyJoker villain who was a total psycho. He was captured and experience 12 years through brain surgery, pet affection experiments, and violence tests to mold him into a person who refuses to commit any violence or wrongdoing towards others. The result brainwashed a CompleteMonster into a pacifist who wants to make up for his past self's evil.%%Proposed 1/3
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** '''[[ComicBook/{{Supergod}} The Supergods]], Unholy Octect Of SuperheroHorror''': these eight superhumans are an attempt to ask "what would happen if superheroes were [[CosmicHorrorStory cosmic horrors]]?" These are [[AGodAmI god-complexed]], BlueAndOrangeMorality [[HumanoidAbomination abom]][[TranshumanAbomination inations]] who with the exception of Morrigan Lugus were a DeityOfHumanOrigin. Made as superweapons, they soon spiral out of control with Earth soon becomes their playthings, for they are far from the friendly superheroes we're used to

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** '''[[ComicBook/{{Supergod}} The Supergods]], Unholy Octect Of SuperheroHorror''': these eight superhumans are an attempt to ask "what would happen if superheroes were [[CosmicHorrorStory cosmic horrors]]?" These are [[AGodAmI god-complexed]], BlueAndOrangeMorality [[HumanoidAbomination abom]][[TranshumanAbomination inations]] who with the exception of Morrigan Lugus were a DeityOfHumanOrigin. Made as superweapons, they soon spiral out of control with Earth soon becomes their playthings, for they are far from the friendly superheroes we're used toto%%Proposed 1/3



** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd''': ''Carol And The End Of The World'' is a limited series where a planet is discovered to be destined to collide with and destroy the Earth. It explores people getting their affair in order and living with the apocalypse months away. Carol Kohl is the main character, an everywoman who is trying to figure out how to spend her last moments.

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** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd''': ''Carol And The End Of The World'' is a limited series where a planet is discovered to be destined to collide with and destroy the Earth. It explores people getting their affair in order and living with the apocalypse months away. Carol Kohl is the main character, an everywoman who is trying to figure out how to spend her last moments.%%Proposed 1/3



** '''[[ComicBook/{{Bedlam}} Fillmore Press]], God of BehavioralConditioning''': Fillmore Press was once Madder Red, a PracticallyJoker villain who was a total psycho. He was captured and experience 12 years through brain surgery, pet affection experiments, and violence tests to mold him into a person who refuses to commit any violence or wrongdoing towards others. The result brainwashed a CompleteMonster into a pacifist who wants to make up for his past self's evil.

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** '''[[ComicBook/{{Bedlam}} Fillmore Press]], God of BehavioralConditioning''': Fillmore Press was once Madder Red, a PracticallyJoker villain who was a total psycho. He was captured and experience 12 years through brain surgery, pet affection experiments, and violence tests to mold him into a person who refuses to commit any violence or wrongdoing towards others. The result brainwashed a CompleteMonster into a pacifist who wants to make up for his past self's evil.%%Proposed 1/3
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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} The Scout]], [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Tenko Chabashira, Austin Powers]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]], [[Pantheon/YuGiOh both Yugis, Anzu Mazaki and Katsuya Jonouchi really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/PowerLevelsAndAppearance Ringo Roadigan]], [[Pantheon/RevengeAndRetribution Sakura Matou]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} The Scout]], [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Tenko Chabashira, Austin Powers]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]], [[Pantheon/YuGiOh both Yugis, Anzu Mazaki and Katsuya Jonouchi Jonouchi, [[Pantheon/AgeAndYouth Stephen and Lucy Steel]], really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and studentstudent and any rape or assault survivor (attempted or successful)



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* Suguru Kamoshida is quite incensed by the fact that [[HateSink he is so despised]] yet Funny Valentine, who tried to rape a 14 year old, still has a lot of fans who even if ([[DracoInLeatherPants most]]) admit he's a villain, that he's seen as this stylish and charismatic villain. He's also quite annoyed that more eyes aren't put on Stephen Steel, who's in his fifties but married to said 14 year old. What he doesn't seem to get is that, while most agree Valentine's AttemptedRape was a low point, [[EvilVirtues he has a lot of good points to his character]] and even if you disagree with his methods you can't deny he's a patriot to his cause. By contrast there's nothing redeeming to Kamoshida, and [[RealismInducedHorror since he's a lot more realistic]] he stands out as all that more despicable. Funny Valentine for his part dismisses him as a clout-chasing burn-out, and Lucy Steel stepped up to her husband's defense by pointing out their marriage is completely platonic; he's not attracted to her at all. As Kamoshida's a craven rapist they detest him, and among the cast of [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureSteelBallRun SBR]] Ringo Roadigan would love to choke the life out of him the most. After all, he was almost raped as a child.

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* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]

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* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]Umbridge]], [[Pantheon/{{Depravity}} The Four Libertines]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Wild Hunt]]



* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} The Scout]], [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Tenko Chabashira, Austin Powers]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} The Scout]], [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Tenko Chabashira, Austin Powers]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] Academy]], [[Pantheon/YuGiOh both Yugis, Anzu Mazaki and Katsuya Jonouchi really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student



* Ignored by: [[Pantheon/OtherDimensions Funny Valentine]]



* Though his hatred of the Phantom Thieves of Heart is white-hot, it has reinforced an idea he hadn't thought off much before encountering them; [[FateWorseThanDeath there are things worse than death]]. Of course, the main reason he considers it worse than death is that feeling remorse for his crimes like a normal human being [[LackOfEmpathy is so alien to his base personality]]. There are more objectively worse fates; in his early days, Yami Yugi dealt with a physically abusive coach [[AbsurdlyHighStakesGame with Shadow Games]]. Back in the day he was a big fan of [[PayEvilUntoEvil paying evil unto evil]] and Suguru proves so heinous his friends would consider making him an exception; he is worse than any abusive teacher than they have encountered. The desire to make him pay has furthered with his alliance to the Four Libertines and Wild Hunt, particularly [[MonsterClown Cham]][[FatBastard p who was a teacher that ended up being a serial killer and rapist akin to the notorious John Wayne Gacy. Though this inevitably puts him in Night Raid's crosshairs he is happy to associate himself with them due to wishing to indulge in the same deviant impulses. However whenever he tries to find something new by joining the Libertines in full on torture, he suffers migraines from the residual heart-stealing Operation Re-blackened Heart could not eliminate.



* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. [[ItsPersonal Those who've been victimized hate him especially]]. Sakura Matou was raped by her foster family for years, and Guts was raped as a child and later saw his best friend turned arch-enemy rape his lover. Kenshiro, Raoh and Toki all loathe rapists and scum who prey on the vulnerable like him. As such, his very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything. Shinji Matou is probably the only student who can stand Suguru Kamoshida because just like him, he's an insecure creep and predator. Shinji holds a distressingly casual dismissal of consent that's very much in keeping with Kamoshida, and the two pass off their abhorrent actions and working together to get hot girls.

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* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]].deity]], if that wasn't clear already. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. [[ItsPersonal Those who've been victimized hate him especially]]. Sakura Matou was raped by her foster family for years, and Guts was raped as a child and later saw his best friend turned arch-enemy rape his lover. Kenshiro, Raoh and Toki all loathe rapists and scum who prey on the vulnerable like him. As such, his very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything. Shinji Matou is probably the only student who can stand Suguru Kamoshida because just like him, he's an insecure creep and predator. Shinji holds a distressingly casual dismissal of consent that's very much in keeping with Kamoshida, and the two pass off their abhorrent actions and working together to get hot girls.


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[[folder:Sugoroku Muto]]
'''[[Manga/YuGiOh Sugoroku Muto]], God of [[SatelliteFamilyMember Satellite Family Members]]''' ([[DubNameChange Solomon Moto]], [[InconsistentDub Trusdale]], [[PaperThinDisguise Apdnarg Utom, Mask The Rock]])
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* Votes: 4 (Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/{{Rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{neoman}}, Tropers/{{lawliet-saw-whet}})
* Date of ascension: 18 May
* Hall: Family Dynamics (House of Family and Relatives)
* Quasideity (Demigod in his youth)
* Symbol: Either his cap, or the opening sign for the Kame Game shop
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvWvx1Z5j4c His Duel Links OST]]
* Alignment: NeutralGood
* Portfolio: CoolOldGuy SatelliteFamilyMember, [[RetiredBadass Former]] AdventurerArchaeologist, [[AdaptationPersonalityChange Comedic Traits Downplayed In The Toei Anime]], [[DirtyOldMan Kind Of A Pervert]], MiniatureSeniorCitizens, former KingOfGames, [[TheWorfEffect Defeated By Kaiba To Show He's Not Fooling Around]], [[DubNameChange Gets A Dub Name]] [[MeaningfulName From A Wise Biblical King]], TheGambler, AwesomeButImpractical Deck, CoolOldGuy, OldMaster
* Domains: Family Members, Gamblers, Card Games, Archeology, Game Corners
* Interested in: The various ascended pharaohs [[Pantheon/MythsAndLegends and Egyptian deities]]
* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/GamingStyles Yugi Muto]]''' (his grandson) [[Pantheon/YuGiOh and his friends]], [[Pantheon/PositiveReaction Rebecca Hopkins]], [[Pantheon/{{Luckiness}} Judai Yuki]], [[Pantheon/BodySizes Sho Marufuji]], ''[[Pantheon/GameMechanics Exodia the Forbidden One]]'', [[Pantheon/UnlivingBeings Ahkmenrah]], [[Pantheon/{{Mentalism}} Joseph Joestar]] and his son [[Pantheon/{{Upbringing}} Josuke Higashikata]], [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Indiana Jones]], [[Pantheon/LustfulBehavior Master Roshi]], [[Pantheon/CharacterReveals Simon Petrikov]], [[Pantheon/NationalMentalities Uncle Chan]], [[Pantheon/{{Upbringing}} Arnold Shortman]], [[Pantheon/{{Beginnings}} Aldo]]
* VitriolicBestBuds with: [[Pantheon/CommercialArchetypes Stanley Pines]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/BusinessesAndCorporations Apu Nahasapeemapetilon]]
* On speaking terms with: ''[[Pantheon/{{Commerce}} Seto Kaiba]], [[Pantheon/{{Language}} Pegasus J Crawford]]'' (former enemies)
* Rivals: [[Pantheon/CommercialAttitude Tsunade]] ([[FriendlyRivalry friendly]]), [[Pantheon/NegativeReaction Jeff Albertson/Comic Book Guy]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/SplitPersonalities The Spirit of the Millennium Ring/Dark Bakura, Dark/Yami Marik]], [[Pantheon/PersonalAppearanceOther Zorc Necrophades]]''', [[Pantheon/GamingConsequences the D'arby brothers]] (more so Telence; Daniel has a bit of [[VillainRespect respect]] for him), [[Pantheon/{{Advertising}} Brand X]], [[Pantheon/CraftingMaterials Yoshihiro Kira]] (and [[Pantheon/{{Explosives}} Yoshikage]] for good measure), [[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/BusinessesAndCorporations Bubs]]
* Suguroku Muto (or Solomon Moto [[DubNameChange if you're watching the English dub]]) is the grandfather of famed duelist Yugi Muto and owner of the Kame Game shop. In his youth he was an archeologist who visited the Valley of the Kings in hopes of finding the tomb of the Nameless Pharaoh [[spoiler:aka Pharaoh Atem]], being the one to find the Millennium Puzzle, though he was never able to solve it. Interestingly, in a past life he was that pharaoh's Grand Vizier, Shimon Muran, and wielded Exodia. Suguroku is a skilled player of games and a gambler who rarely lost, though one of the few times he did it led to him wearing overalls and retiring. Now he's content running his game shop, and serving as a mentor for his grandson Yugi. Occasionally he has gone out to play Duel Monsters like dueling with Jonouchi in [=KaibaCorps=] Grand Prix. He's a close friend of Rebecca Hopkin's grandfather Arthur, and she initially tried to challenge him for a duel to get back his Blue Eyes card. However the two eventually patched things out and befriended him and Yugi.
* Yugi's grandfather was minded his own business, taking care of his shop on a quiet day where there weren't many customers. Everything seemed normal until he opened his mailbox and discovered an invitation to something called the Trope Pantheon. [[ItMakesSenseInContext After the VHS tape Pegasus sent led to his soul getting stolen]] he was suspicious and asked Yugi if he knew if a trick was afoot, only to be informed that it was the same thing he and many of both his allies and enemies had joined. As a character defined by their familial relationship to another character, he was under consideration for the trope of SatelliteFamilyMember. Suguroku may be in his seventies but he's not [[TechnologicallyBlindElders technologically blind]] and quickly adapted to using TV Tropes. His temple is Kame House, technically part of the House of Family and Relatives but functionally part of the House of Pantheon/{{Gaming}} as that's where his revenue comes from. For deities wanting to play Duel Monsters he's usually the one to check if they're looking for a more humble and friendly game shop. At his age he isn't ready to go on big adventures, though he is penpals with the retired adventurer Old Buran. You can find him [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings in the Monster Sanctuary]] training new adventurers, which is what piqued Suguroku's interest.
* He had met Judai/Jaden and friends "the long way round" at his card shop [[Anime/YuGiOhGX where even in his eighties he still was as chipper maintaining his shop]]. He helped guide them through the city in return, but unfortunately he got kidnapped by Thunder and Frost. Jaden and his friends managed to find and rescue him, and he gave them some hamburgers for their trouble. Overall, Sugoroku is generally friendly and doesn't hold a grudge, though he's still somewhat sore around Seto Kaiba and Pegasus; the former beat him and destroyed his Blue Eyes card, leading to him going to the hospital, and the latter stole his soul as part of his scheme. He's on speaking terms with them because they ultimately turned a new leaf, but they're otherwise neutral. Ultimately he only really opposes the unrepentant villains who threatened his grandson (and the world, given the scope of their plans). Yugi's grandfather is on really good terms with Exodia, interestingly enough. As mentioned, his previous life in Ancient Egypt had Exodia as his ''ka'', and he used to have Exodia in his playset.
* He's been trying to catch up with [[Pantheon/YuGiOh the protagonists of Yu-Gi-Oh series]] [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5Ds]] and beyond, studying their adventures so he can better understand the later Duel Monsters meta. Yes their series are either far enough in the future he's probably passed of old age, and/or a different timeline altogether, but since he owns a Duel Monsters game shop he wants to be informed. He got some help with the updates and suggestions on how to boost sales from Aldo and Arnold. They were [[RaisedByGrandparents raised by their grandparents]] and are generally kind-hearted individuals, so they were happy to help. The two like swapping stories with the old man whenever they visit the shop for gaming accessories. Sometimes he can be seen visiting [[Pantheon/ChefsAndEstablishments the Cabbage Merchant]] to pick up cabbages, musing that [[Creator/JamesSie he sounds like his friend Uncle Chan]].
* While he's retired from the archeology business, he still knows his stuff about Egypt and has stories to share with other archeologists. Him and Indiana Jones have become good friends discussing their past adventures, though Suguroku readily admits Indy has seen a lot more than he was able to. Him and Simon Petrikov are also friends, the latter having been an antiquarian who had studied some magical artifacts...sadly he spent the better part of a millennium driven crazy by one of them. With all the things he's seen of the Millennium Items and Shadow Games, he wasn't exactly surprised to learn the Egyptian gods were all too real in the Trope Pantheon. He's become quite interested in learning more about them, alongside the many pharaohs present asides from the Nameless Pharaoh. He's especially interested in Ahkmenrah, a ChummyMummy who was brought to the land of the living thanks to [[Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary a magical Egyptian artifact]]...he reminds the old man of Yami Yugi.
* Suguroku's shop being called "Kame Game", basically translating to "Turtle Game", reminds a good amount of people of Muten Roshi. There's more than a few similarities between them; both are old, wise mentors of the protagonist, though Roshi has more of a role as the mentor, and they're both [[DirtyOldMan perverts]]. This isn't as obvious with Yugi's grandpa as his lechery [[CharacterizationMarchesOn was more an early characterization]], but his interest in [[AnimeChineseGirl Vivian Wong]] and Otogi's cheerleaders wasn't exactly innocent. [[EveryoneHasStandards He still thinks Roshi is pervy]], though to the older man's credit he's become better at controlling his lust. While they sometimes chat about beautiful women, most of the time they talk about their life experiences and how to give advice to those they care about. Roshi has decided to learn from him how to play Duel Monsters as a hobby.
* He has somewhat of a rivalry with Comic Book Guy, come their mutual roles in the House of Pantheon/{{Commerce}}. He owns a major comic book shop of the Trope Pantheon, and Suguroku owns a major game shop. Comic Book Guy keeps trying to push advertisement for his shop over the old man, trying to get more customers. He was a bit annoyed to see a regular like [[Pantheon/JokesAndPranks Bart Simpson]] start to spend more pocket change at the Kame Game shop, causing the old man to quip "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E11WorstEpisodeEver didn't you ban him?]]" Jeff simply responded with "we worked that out". While Yugi's grandpa is a bit exasperated by how much of a jerk Comic Book Guy can be, their rivalry is a harmless one and they'll sometimes show up at each other's shop to buy stuff from one another. Occasionally they meet up and chat, and/or snark, at the Kwik-e-Mart. Him and Apu seem to get along as small businessmen.
* Brand X attempted to exploit the old man in hopes of pushing their awful, awful food products. Why him? Simply put, they wanted to look more appealing and "human". They propositioned him with an idea of becoming a promoter for Brand X food, by tying them with the games he sold. Suspecting them from the start, he asked the representative "could you taste test your food first?" That representative was nervous [[LethalChef since he knew what their food taste like]], so instead he decided to gamble and say "OK, let's decide it over poker. You win, I'll taste test it and we'll leave you alone forever. I win, you sell your game shop to us and we turn it into a market". Unfortunately for that representative Suguroku was a very lucky gambler and took some pride in seeing [[HoistByHisOwnPetard the representative prove how bad that proposal would've been for him]]. He got a high five from another shopkeeper, Uncle Chan, for pulling that off as it seems to have prevented them going after his business next. He's been interested in learning about Egyptian magic recently, and seeing another small business do well in the Trope Pantheon has made him smile.
* As he's a friendly old man with a humble job, it's hard to really piss him off. [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Make jokes about him lusting over Black Luster Soldier]] and he'll just go "ah, I see you're a fan of that abridged series". Some people do piss him off, though. Though a bit of a pervert, he's far from the creep that Nobuyuki Sugou is. His abuse of the virtual world's gaming system and general sleaze-baggery made him permanently blacklisted from Kame Game. No, the fact he has no interest in Duel Monsters or the other games at his shop doesn't change that. He's definitely not a fan of Yoshihiro Kira either. For one, he's worried his Stand ability might cause some chaos if he gets access to Duel Monster cards, despite Yoshihiro saying "that's not how my Stand works [[HypocriticalHumor you old fool!]]" More seriously, Yoshihiro is aiding and enabling his SerialKiller of a son and making Morioh a less safe place. The ghostly Stand user tried to defend his actions by saying he's making up for his wife's abuse[[note]]according to Araki's comments; it's not mentioned in the manga to avoid making Kira too sympathetic[[/note]], only for Sugoroku [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse to say that's a BS excuse]].
* While an expert gambler, Sugoroku Muto knows that eventually, your luck will run out. This is but one of many reasons why he has absolutely no interest in playing any game with the D'arby brothers, who he's naturally horrified [[LostHimInACardGame by them gambling with human lives]]. Daniel at least finds his refusal to duel unfortunate, [[VillainRespect since he respect for his skill]], but Telence is just an ass so he doesn't care. Yugi is glad they aren't trying to antagonize his grandpa outright since the way their Stands work is highly reminiscent of a Shadow Game. However Sugoroku is fine gambling for smaller wagers like a chocolate milkshake. Him and Tsunade decided to gamble over who pays for a month's worth of bento boxes with a game of Duel Monsters...Sugoroku won, though she insists that this was unfair because it was her first time playing Duel Monsters. [[FriendlyRivalry They'll still make friendly wagers, just with more fair games]]. Recently he has been doing some bets with Uncle Chan over who can sell the most from their stores on a weekend.
* Has a bit of a complicated opinion on Grunkle Stan. Sugoroku sees him as a troublemaker, a swindler a washout...but also a good friend, who reminds him of some of the stuff he got up to back in the day. Stan wishes that he did more higher stake gambling with him and [[HypocriticalHumor thinks he's a bit of a washout]], but this comes off more as friendly ribbing. While Yugi's grandfather is annoyed by Bubs and his swindling ways, he sees in Stan Pines a more devious version of himself but really fun company, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold who'll prove his worth when he needs to]]. The two like to swap stories, though the elder Muto admits he's got a lot stranger to say. One story both of them got caught off guard was [[Pantheon/MediaPresentation Big Bird's]], who [[Film/DontEatThePictures dressed down]] ''[[Pantheon/MaleAppearances Osiris]]'' when he refused to let a boy into the afterlife.
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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/{{Abilities}} The Scout]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student

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* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. Absolutely no-one entertained the idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings the Vincennes Private Girls Academy]], as putting such a disgraceful PE teacher near high school teenagers with play sports is disastrous. [[Pantheon/GendeRoles Masaya Okonogi]] will personally make sure he pays if he breaks the restraining order.

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* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. Absolutely no-one entertained the idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings the Vincennes Private Girls Academy]], as putting such a disgraceful PE teacher near high school teenagers with play sports is disastrous. [[Pantheon/GendeRoles [[Pantheon/GenderRoles Masaya Okonogi]] will personally make sure he pays if he breaks the restraining order.



* Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]]. As brutal as this was, it was almost pleasant compared to the bludgeoning he got from Dokuro Mitsukai. A CreepyGymCoach who's warped cognition sees those he lusts for (as in ''school girls") as brainless beauties makes him the number one target for her PervertRevengeMode. [[FateWorseThanDeath Not even death is an escape as she revives him just to do it again]]. While Kamoshida's hatred of the Phantom Thieves burns hotter than anything, [[TheDreaded his outlook on Dokuro is one of pure terror]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of tonal reasons]], and to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and [[EvenEvilHasStandards he does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his LustObject, but his entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies.

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* Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]]. As brutal as this was, it was almost pleasant compared to the bludgeoning he got from Dokuro Mitsukai. A CreepyGymCoach who's warped cognition sees those he lusts for (as in ''school girls") as brainless beauties makes him the number one target for her PervertRevengeMode. [[FateWorseThanDeath Not even death is an escape as she revives him just to do it again]]. While Kamoshida's hatred of the Phantom Thieves burns hotter than anything, [[TheDreaded his outlook on Dokuro is one of pure terror]].
terror]]. This terror is followed by a fear of Tenko Chabashira who sees him as the personification of "degenerate males", and if she's not joining Cheems and Dokuro in bonking him [[PassThePopcorn she's watching it]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of tonal reasons]], and to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and [[EvenEvilHasStandards he does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his LustObject, but his entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies. He tried being a drinking buddy with Austin Powers, wanting to bond over how they "pick up chicks", however the spy was livid at the attempt as yes, he's a shameless womanizer, [[EthicalSlut but he'll always value the consent of his partner]].

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* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused that he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his [[AssholeVictim that probably had it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge until he learns to quiet the BrainwashResidue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]].

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* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused that he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his [[AssholeVictim that probably had it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge until he learns to quiet the BrainwashResidue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. That said Kamoshida isn't a CardCarryingVillain, [[NeverMyFault if only because he can't accept responsibility]]. He's deluded himself into thinking he's God's gift to women, trying to play himself off as a rival to the Scout. The Scout heavily disagrees; despite Kamoshida's accusations his use of the [[https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Track_Terrorizer "Track Terroizer"]] puts him in suspicious territory, the Scout [[EveryoneHasStandards has limits in going after women]] and [[https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fjcsrqsz96i651.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da86c63823196ac73abdb940185061820d7397838 pointed out that wasn't canon]]. He loathes Kamoshida for his crimes like most do.
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Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]]. As brutal as this was, it was almost pleasant compared to the bludgeoning he got from Dokuro Mitsukai. A CreepyGymCoach who's warped cognition sees those he lusts for (as in ''school girls") as brainless beauties makes him the number one target for her PervertRevengeMode. [[FateWorseThanDeath Not even death is an escape as she revives him just to do it again]]. While Kamoshida's hatred of the Phantom Thieves burns hotter than anything, [[TheDreaded his outlook on Dokuro is one of pure terror]].

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'''[[Manga/YuGiOh Sugoroku Muto]], God of [[SatelliteFamilyMember Satellite Family Members]]''' ([[DubNameChange Solomon Moto]], [[InconsistentDub Trusdale]], [[PaperThinDisguise Apdnarg Utom, Mask The Millennium Items]]'''
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* Hall: Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary
* Appearance: Different golden items, almost all identified with an eye symbol
* Class Level: 4
* Museum Check: Cleared
* Alignment: Neutral Good and ChaoticEvil (the Millennium Puzzle and Ring respectively). The other items are TrueNeutral with potential for evil
* Portfolio: ArtifactOfDoom, [[PoweredByAForsakenChild The Result Of Sacrificing a Village]], [[AbsurdlyHighStakesGame Shadow Games]], AncientEgypt
** Individually: [[SoulJar Container For]] [[SealedGoodInACan The Nameless Pharaoh]], PyramidPower (the Puzzle), {{Telepathy}}, EyeScream (the Eye), ScalesOfJustice, [[DetectEvil Determines The Evil In Another's Soul]], [[FusionDance Monster Fusing]] (the Scales), JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind (the Key), [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Mind Control]] (the Rod), CombatClairvoyance, [[CrystalBall Capable Of Seeing The Future]] (the Necklace)
* Domains: Magic, Sacrifices, Souls, Darkness, Gaming, Mystery, Curses
* SoulJar for: [[Pantheon/GamingStyles The Other Yugi/the Nameless Pharaoh]] (the Millennium Puzzle), [[Pantheon/ImpostorsAndImpersonations Dark Bakura/the Spirit of the Millennium Ring]] ([[FusionDance and by extension]], [[Pantheon/PersonalAppearanceOther Zorc Necrophades]]) (the Millennium Ring)
* Deities that have wielded the item: [[Pantheon/GamingStyles Yugi Muto]] (the Millennium Puzzle), [[Pantheon/SplitPersonalities Ryou Bakura]] (the Millennium Ring), [[Pantheon/{{Language}} Pegasus J Crawford]] (the Millennium Eye), [[Pantheon/IntrovertCharacterization Marik Ishtar]] [[Pantheon/SplitPersonalities and Dark Marik]] (the Millennium Rod)
* Source of interest: [[Pantheon/FieldsOfMagic Edward]] and [[Pantheon/LivingObjects Alphonse Elric]], [[Pantheon/LifeAndVitality Van Hohenheim]], [[Pantheon/{{Otherness}} Father and the Homunculi]], [[Pantheon/FormsOfImmortality Lord Voldemort]], [[Pantheon/GamingConsequences the D'arby brothers]] (in general), [[Pantheon/AIPersonalities Bender "Bending" Rodriguez]] (the Millennium Eye), [[Pantheon/NamingAndEpithets Isis]] (the Millennium Necklace), [[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} the Phantom Thieves]], [[Pantheon/MentalismOther Razputin Aquato]] (the Millennium Key), [[Pantheon/AfterlifeEntities Ammit]], [[Pantheon/MaleAppearances Osiris]], [[Pantheon/DeathManipulators Anubis]] (the Millennium Scale)
* The Millennium Items date back over 3000 years, commissioned by the pharaoh Akhenamekhanen to protect Anceint Egypt from an invading army. Made by his brother Akhenaden, these seven items had various powers, all sharing the ability to perform the dangerous Shadow Games. Their creation was soaked in blood, however; the 99 residents of the thief town Kul Elna were sacrificed to make them. This was the StartOfDarkness for the Thief King, and it's what allowed the monster Zorc Necrophades to begin his scheme to cover the world in darkness. The Nameless Pharaoh sealed the darkness away, and eventually the items would be dug up in the modern day.
* Applies to the artifacts as a whole
** Following the passing the Nameless Pharaoh [[spoiler:true name Atem]], the items were buried deep underground...[[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions at least until Kaiba dug them up]] as part of his scheme to have one last, definitive duel with his rival. [[TheUnreveal He refuses to go into detail as to how that went]], instead having Kaiba Corp make a delivery of the Millennium Items to the Great Treasury. Interviewers attempted to get an answer for why but he wasn't available for an answer. The only thing known is that before the overhaul of the treasury they used to be artifacts in the pantheon, but were removed in the overhaul for some beauacratic reasons. The current display is supposed to have all seven, but the Millennium Ring is almost always missing from it because it is taken/linked to Yami Bakura. The Millennium Puzzle is normally on loan with Yugi, due to its ties to the Nameless Pharaoh. While the other Millennium Items can be loaned to other deities, permission is required and they are items not to be trifled with.
** Created from blood sacrifice following instructions of the Millennium Spellbook, together the seven items have the ability to summon Zorc Necrophades to the mortal world. Their ability to initiate Shadow Games and dark magic associated with them gives the items great potential for evil, though except for the Millennium Ring none of the items are evil persay. A comparison could be made with the ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' with how the Philosopher's Stone is made, [[spoiler:except the Items [[AndIMustScream don't contain still-screaming souls]].]] The Elric brothers and their father are trying to make sure Father and his homunculi don't try to pilfer the items, and make sure if the Spellbook is ever ascended it's kept lock and key to make sure nobody tries to make more Millennium Items. There is a rule against using the Millennium Items in the House of Pantheon/{{Gaming}} to prevent any Shadow Games, and even outside of that their abilities would allow someone to cheat at the games. The D'arby brothers think it's a silly rule given their own abilities are similar to the Shadow Games, and despite everything they've done their position in their house is secured.
** According to Shadi three items (the Key, Scale and Necklace) represent justice, three items (the Ring, Rod and Eye) are weak to evil and the Puzzle represents both evil and justice. Because of their dark background and potential for evil they're of interest to the [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil GUAE]] and the [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood GUAG]]. Also, their dark history has been yet more fodder for [[Pantheon/{{Hats}} Linkara's]] jokes about how Ancient Egypt is evil[[note]]cue [[Franchise/StarWars the Imperial March]][[/note]]. They're of more interest to the House of Pantheon/MagicAndSorcery, mainly because the various members of the house are seeking to use their powers for good, ill or just because they're useful. The House of Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem, namely its {{Psychopomp}} leaders, feel they should keep an eye as all together the seven Millennium Items are a necessary part in allowing the other Yugi to move on to the next life.
** Before being put in the Great Treasury [[Pantheon/VillainousFailure Jack Spicer]] tried to take them to have a leg up on his and [[Pantheon/RegionalNationalities the Xaolin Dragons']] rivalry to obtain other mystical artifacts; in their case the Shen Gong Wu. Both parties are wondering what kind of stuff they could do by combining their power with Millennium Items; for example, wearing the Millennium Necklace and the Crystal Eyeglasses could give the wielder near perfect prescience. [[Pantheon/{{Symphogear}} The Symphogear wielders]] have been comparing them to Relics, ancient weapons and objects created through the lost art of heretical technology that inspired many myths and folklore, and their own gear is sourced from fragments of those relics.
** The items do not respond well to the unworthy, usually killing them (sometimes [[FateWorseThanDeath worse]]). Indiana Jones was pretty GenreSavvy in treating the Millennium Items gingerly, emphasizing that they belong in the pantheon's museum and should be kept in the Great Treasury. Any discussion with him that they should have their power combined with another artifact just frustrates him. Some [[Website/SCPFoundation D-Class schmuck]] was given a test to bring the Key near the Ark of the Convenant, [[HolyIsNotSafe which ended with him and the foolish researches who ordered it becoming pillars of salt]]...[[BlatantLies who'd have thought]] [[BerserkButton the Abrahamic God wouldn't like these blood sacrifice Egyptian relics near the Ark?]] [[Pantheon/UnlivingBeings Ahkmenrah]] has stated that he wants them to be kept separate from his Tablet as he's wary of how they might affect another Egyptian magical artifact.
* Applies to the artifacts individually
** The Millennium Puzzle and Ring are unique since, as already mentioned, they contain the spirits of people. The Puzzle is notoriously hard to solve in large part due to Yami Yugi's influence and has a more general purpose of enhancing skill, accessing and protecting from magic. There are brilliant minds in the Houses of Pantheon/{{Knowledge}} and Pantheon/{{Science}} who can solve it faster than Yugi did, however the Nameless Pharaoh will only aid them if he wants to. The Ring can find what the wielder is looking for like a compass, but benefits are outweighed by the malignant evil in the item. [[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions Even without Zorc or the Thief King, it's still corruptive]]. Voldemort was fascinated by these items since they work as a sort of [[SoulJar Horcrux variant]], though the abilities and how they function as "horcruxes" is somewhat different. He doesn't intend to steal them because he can't make a horcrux over something already "occupied" like they are, but it has inspired him to try and steal the other Millennium Items and make ''them'' horcruxes. Zorc is intrigued by this since it could allow him to influence Voldemort, but he and by extension Yami Bakura refuse to let him co-opt the artifacts.
** The Millennium Eye lets you read people's minds. Admittedly useless for telepaths like [[Pantheon/SpiritualAndMentalPowers the Martian Manhunter]] unless you want to play a Shadow Game, but pretty useful for anyone ''wanting'' telepathy. It's only got two downsides. One, if someone can pull a MemoryGambit like flipping between different personalities they can cheat the system. Two, [[EyeScream it requires an empty eye socket]]. This wasn't a problem for Bender that time he managed to steal the Eye, calling Pegasus "a lightweight meatbag" as he could just unscrew one of his eyes and plug the artifact in. He freaked out a bit when [[Recap/FuturamaS1E10AFlightToRemember he saw the spirit of the Countess de la Roca]], much as how Pegasus saw a vision of his lost love, but got over it. Bender almost won a big poker game until he went up against Fry, who's mind still couldn't be read even with a magic artifact. The Eye was later recovered from a nearby trash can, vigorously cleaned, and returned to the museum.
** The Millennium Rod has [[BadPowersBadPeople perhaps the most potential for evil]] since not only is it used for mind control, but it also has a sharp end to stab people with. Marik set up a rumor that [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries it can only control people named Steve and can be used as a lightsaber]], but no-one really bought it and he admitted [[ItAmusedMe he made it up for a lark]]. However, strong enough HeroicWillpower can allow one to break out of control. The Hall of Pantheon/MindControl wonders if their own techniques could somehow enhance the item. Death Phantom muses that compared to his own power of MindManipulation, it might as well be glorified metal, but Jervis Tetch thinks it's a neat secondary means of control and looks fashionable. There was a test to see if it could entrance someone already entranced by the Hypnotoad; it succeeded, but the Hypnotoad simply stared and mind controlled
** The Millennium Necklace's role was formerly used by Ishizu Ishatar, and way back in the day her previous life Isis. No, not the goddess, she just happened to share the name. The actual goddess is interested in it, but more as a glorified piece of jewelry as her own divine powers overshadow the Necklace. It's main ability is to see the future, and also the past. However it still has its limits, and its abilities are obscured by other millennium items. Though Ishizu never had any intent to use it for Shadow Games, if she ascends she still cannot be expected to use it in the House of Pantheon/{{Gaming}} as it could be seen as a form of cheating. How effective the Necklace is can fluctuate wildly; tests from the House of Pantheon/{{Prophecy}} shows it's highly effective in [[YouCantFightFate deterministic]] settings but useless in [[ScrewDestiny ones that break fate]]. Anyone wearing it within the House of Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality will suffer a migraine due to the conflicting laws of time inevitably present there.
** The Millennium Key stands as the only Item to lack the eye symbol on it. It allows you to unlock and enter somebody's mind. It's comparable to what the Phantom Thieves and Razputin Aquato are capable of, however Yami Yugi's amnesia caused his mind to come off as some labyrinth. Some poor Arkham guard tried to use the Key to enter [[Pantheon/{{Laughter}} the Joker's mind]] in order to figure out what was wrong with him, [[AMindIsATerribleThingToRead only to be lost in a maddening MC Escher-esque carnival]]. [[FateWorseThanDeath Perhaps he should've been found as unworthy by the Key]].
** The Millennium Scale is perhaps the least explored of the Items, and like the Key was primarily in possession of the enigmatic Shadi. can weigh a person's sin against the Feather of Ma'at. While extremely evil hearts like Yami Bakura and probably the Joker too overwhelm it, most wicked souls can expect to face the wrath of Ammit eating them. Anubis has dryly mused that the Millennium Scale is basically a knock-off of the ScalesOfJustice he and Osiris use to judge the dead, jokingly wondering if they should sue for plagiarism. [[Pantheon/{{Destinies}} Judgement Bird]] muses it is fairer than the scale he possesses. Well, his used to be fair, but when someone pointed out the possibility of it never leaning toward one way the scale was rigged so it could always yield a clear verdict: guilty, and the execution method was lynching. The Millennium Scale tends to twitch whenever the Judgement Bird is near.
*** Upon further research the Scale might not be a knock-off; [[Manga/YuGiOhGX about a decade later]] the goddess Ma'at showed up with all of them in her possession. Anubis has re-evaluated his comment and concluded the Millennium Scale is more like an officially recognized tribute to the original ScalesOfJustice than anything.
** [[Anime/YuGiOhTheMoviePyramidOfLight The Pyramid of Light]] and [[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions Quantum Cube]] are considered by some unofficial Millennium Items, but aren't listed in the canon seven so they aren't officially listed in the Great Treasury. The former is basically an in-universe [[EvilKnockoff knock-off of the Puzzle]] that got co-opted by the sorcerer Anubis for his own purposes, also acting as a SoulJar. The actual Anubis is embarrassed by the whole thing since he doesn't like some GenericDoomsdayVillain [[EverybodyHatesHades giving him a bad name]]. The latter is "semi-official", and can send others to another dimension where they're doomed to disintegrate. [[Pantheon/SourcesOfInformation Some SCP Foundation agents]] argued it should somehow join the canon seven, only to sheepishly admit it's yet another scheme to terminate [[Pantheon/{{Psyches}} SCP-682]].
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'''[[Manga/YuGiOh Sugoroku Muto]], God of [[SatelliteFamilyMember Satellite Family Members]]''' ([[DubNameChange Solomon Moto]], [[InconsistentDub Trusdale]], [[PaperThinDisguise Apdnarg Utom, Mask The Rock]])
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* Votes: 4 (Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/{{Rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{neoman}}, Tropers/{{lawliet-saw-whet}})
* Date of ascension: 18 May



* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), [[Pantheon/TimePlacement S.E.E.S,]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives The Investigation Team]], [[Pantheon/OtherEmotions Hikari (Persona Q2)]], ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student



* For those wondering why Melkor would bother bringing a nobody like Suguru Kamoshida into the Trope Pantheon, it's ''because'' he's a nobody. Suguru Kamoshida is ultimately a test subject in "Operation Re-blackened Heart", a grander scheme of restoring the evil within those who've been forced to change to good one way or another. He was picked by Dr Light and the Purple Man's request, [[PragmaticVillainy to determine if it was a viable strategy for getting actually desirable allies]]. Kamoshida's resurfaced narcissism prevents him from realizing he's a glorified guinea pig and simply thinks he's important, boasting "I can do whatever the fuck I want" ala [[Pantheon/{{Derivatives}} Homelander]]. Homelander was intrigued by him being the guinea pig as in the World of Movies a version of him known as Kamoshida-man appeared as a superhero that misused his powers and authority, like him. Homelander ([[AdaptationalIntelligence more so the TV version]]), a man who is honestly a lot like him except much more ambitious, will be studying the first test of Operation Re-blackened Heart to ensure he has insurance should the Phantom Thieves of Heart manage to break into his Palace.

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* For those wondering why Melkor would bother bringing a nobody like Suguru Kamoshida into the Trope Pantheon, it's ''because'' he's a nobody. Suguru Kamoshida is ultimately a test subject in "Operation Re-blackened Heart", a grander scheme of restoring the evil within those who've been forced to change to good one way or another. He was picked by Dr Light and the Purple Man's request, [[PragmaticVillainy to determine if it was a viable strategy for getting actually desirable allies]]. Kamoshida's resurfaced narcissism prevents him from realizing he's a glorified guinea pig and simply thinks he's important, boasting "I can do whatever the fuck I want" ala [[Pantheon/{{Derivatives}} Homelander]]. Homelander was intrigued by him being the guinea pig as in the World of Movies a version of him known as Kamoshida-man appeared as a superhero that misused his powers and authority, like him. Homelander ([[AdaptationalIntelligence more so the TV version]]), a man who is honestly a lot like him except much more ambitious, will be studying the first test of Operation Re-blackened Heart to ensure he has insurance should the Phantom Thieves of Heart manage to break into his Palace. S.E.E.S, Hikari and Investigation Team have seen this movie and with their already present alliance with the Phantom Thieves they plan to make Kamoshida wish he didn't ascend.



* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. Absolutely no-one entertained the idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings the Vincennes Private Girls Academy]]

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* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. Absolutely no-one entertained the idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings the Vincennes Private Girls Academy]]Academy]], as putting such a disgraceful PE teacher near high school teenagers with play sports is disastrous. [[Pantheon/GendeRoles Masaya Okonogi]] will personally make sure he pays if he breaks the restraining order.



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** '''[[ComicBook/{{Bedlam}} Fillmore Press]], God of BehavioralConditioning''': Fillmore Press was once Madder Red, a PracticallyJoker villain who was a total psycho. He was captured and experience 12 years through brain surgery, pet affection experiments, and violence tests to mold him into a person who refuses to commit any violence or wrongdoing towards others. The result brainwashed a CompleteMonster into a pacifist who wants to make up for his past self's evil.
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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner really any member of his own House not under allies

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{Ambiguity}} Guts]], [[Pantheon/{{Tears}} Kenshiro]], [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Raoh]], [[Pantheon/FighterArchetypes Toki]], [[Pantheon/MindControl Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants]], [[Pantheon/BodyImages Shoyo Hinata]], [[Pantheon/CompetitorsAndContenders Tetsuya Kuroku]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner Skinner, [[Pantheon/PrincessEvangile everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy]] really any member of his own House not under alliesallies, pretty much every teacher and student



* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. Despite being a major stickler for the rules and a total square, Seymour Skinner was so offended by Kamoshida's arrival he and Edna [[EnemyMine teamed up with Bart]] and other mischievous students to make him pay.
* Frankly, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the other evil teachers detest him]]. Denzel Crocker might be a SadistTeacher who seeks the power of FAIRY! GOD! PARENTS! but "pervert" is not a word to describe him, [[EnemyMine and he will actually aid Timmy Turner]] in making him pay. Kamoshida tried to reach out to Principal Krupp since as he was also brainwashed by students he thought he might sympathize with him, only to be called a sick bastard to his face by Krupp. One of his only allies in the House of School is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.

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* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member of Absolutely no-one entertained the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from [[Pantheon/FictionalSettings the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
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* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. Despite being a major stickler for the rules and a total square, Seymour Skinner was so offended by Kamoshida's arrival he and Edna [[EnemyMine teamed up with Bart]] and other mischievous students to make him pay. Cacofonix, Cybersix and Getafix are also teachers, and they also intend to make him pay. As high school students who play sports, Shoyo Hinata and Tetsuya Kuroko are ''immediately'' on the offensive the moment he tries to come near to them to "teach". Really, the only member of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him (or really any student) is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then, the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
* Frankly, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the other evil teachers detest him]]. Denzel Crocker might be a SadistTeacher who seeks the power of FAIRY! GOD! PARENTS! but "pervert" is not a word to describe him, [[EnemyMine and he will actually aid Timmy Turner]] in making him pay. Kamoshida tried to reach out to Principal Krupp since as he was also brainwashed by students he thought he might sympathize with him, only to be called a sick bastard to his face by Krupp. His alter ego Captain Underpants will just kick his ass, and "making Kamoshida pay" is one of the few things both personas agree on.. One of his only allies in the House of School is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.



* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything.

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* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His [[ItsPersonal Those who've been victimized hate him especially]]. Sakura Matou was raped by her foster family for years, and Guts was raped as a child and later saw his best friend turned arch-enemy rape his lover. Kenshiro, Raoh and Toki all loathe rapists and scum who prey on the vulnerable like him. As such, his very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything. Shinji Matou is probably the only student who can stand Suguru Kamoshida because just like him, he's an insecure creep and predator. Shinji holds a distressingly casual dismissal of consent that's very much in keeping with Kamoshida, and the two pass off their abhorrent actions and working together to get hot girls.

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'''[[ComicBook/InfinitumAnAfrofuturistTale Aja Oba]], God of [[ImmortalGenius Immortal Geniuses]]''' (John)
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* Halls: Pantheon/IntellectualArchetypes (House of Pantheon/{{Knowledge}}), Pantheon/FormsOfImmortality (House of Pantheon/LifeAndVitality)
* Intermediate God (Greater God in his giant monolith form)
* Symbol: An infinity symbol in the center of a broken heart
* Alignment: LawfulNeutral
* Portfolio: An ImmortalGenius [[CompleteImmortality Who Not Even The End Of The Universe Can Put Down]], TimeAbyss, GeniusBruiser, [[DyingCurse Cursed With Eternal Life]] [[WhoWantsToLiveForever And Agreeing That It's A Curse]], AntiHero turned GoodIsNotNice, growing StrongerWithAge, [[OutlivingOnesOffspring Outliving Whatever Family He Has]], [[LoveRedeems Growing Out Of His Warlord Phase Thanks To Ayeko]], becoming an ImmortalRuler and GodEmperor, [[DownerEnding Achieves Absolution Only To]] [[AndIMustScream Persist After The End Of Everything]], BeenThereShapedHistory, HealingFactor
* Domains: Immortality, Rulers, Regret, Loss, Intelligence, History
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/DeathAndPostmortem Death of the Endless]], [[Pantheon/AuthorityFigures Present and Future Zen'o]], [[Pantheon/DivineBehavior Beerus]]
* Allies: [[Pantheon/LifeAndVitality Van Hohenheim]], Hob Gadling, Dr Henry Morgan, Ashildr, [[Pantheon/RomanticOrientation Jack Harkness]], [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM Professor Hubert J Farnsworth]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality The Doctor]] (particularly his 10th incarnation), [[Pantheon/{{Loneliness}} Zac Hobson]], [[Pantheon/{{Sinners}} Kratos]], [[Pantheon/{{Touring}} AZ]], [[Pantheon/RacialAppearances Django Freeman]], [[Pantheon/RegretAndShame Nolan Grayson/Omni-Man]], [[Pantheon/{{Goals}} Meliodas]], [[Pantheon/SpecializedNarratives Gilgamesh]], [[Pantheon/TortureAndMutilation The Five Survivors]], [[Pantheon/AfterlifeEntities SCP-1440]], [[Pantheon/FieldsOfScience Senku Ishigami]]
* On good terms with: [[Pantheon/LegacyAndInfluence Abraham Lincoln]], [[Pantheon/AgeAndYouth Kraft Lawrence and Holo]], [[Pantheon/MannersOfRevival Carter Hall/Hawkman and Shiera Sanders/Hawkgirl]], [[Pantheon/SpaceAndCosmos The USS Enterprise -A/B Senior Crew]], [[Pantheon/CelestialBodiesAndStars The Space Sheriffs, Team Lightyear]], [[Pantheon/MagicMixed Albus Dumbledore]], Vulkan
* On speaking terms with: [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} The Wolf (Puss in Boots)]], [[Pantheon/PlanetaryBodiesAndSatellites Galan of Taa/Galactus]]
* Rivals: Lostbelt Qin Shi Huang ([[FriendlyRivalry somewhat amicably]]), [[Pantheon/CriminalActions Vadar Adg/Vandal Savage]], [[Pantheon/{{Pragmatism}} The Emperor of Mankind]]
* Enemies: [[Pantheon/{{Slaughter}} AM]], Tenebrae, [[Pantheon/{{Categorism}} Dr Weil]], [[Pantheon/AgeAndYouth Porky Minch]], [[Pantheon/VillainousAttitude Calvin J Candie and Stephen]], [[Pantheon/{{Categorism}} Col Benjamin Cameron]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Moon Man]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality Lord English]], [[Pantheon/DeathManipulators Doc Scratch]], [[Pantheon/UndeadAndPhasmata Nekron, Nagash the Undying]] and the Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfDestruction, [[AliensAreBastards hostile aliens]] like [[Pantheon/ExtraterrestrialBehaviour the Dalek Empire]], [[Pantheon/FieldsOfScience Ultimate Reed Richards/The Maker]], [[Pantheon/HatredAndRancor Zamasu]], Voldemort
** FriendlyEnemy with: [[Pantheon/FantasticalJobs Trazyn the Infinite]]
* Envied by: Tom Marvolo Riddle/Voldemort
* Pities: Czeslaw Meyer, [[Pantheon/FieldsOfMagic Sarda]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/{{Advertising}} The Incubators]]
* Opposed by: [[Pantheon/PovertyAndRiches Robert "Bob" Ewell]], [[Pantheon/AfterlifeEntities Grim]]
* Aja Oba was an African warlord renowned across the land for his military might, ruthless ambition and strong leadership. He and his equally-cunning consort, Queen Lewa, become the rulers of one of the earliest empires in human history. Everything changed one day when he sought out a child from his concubine Obinrin, betraying her by simply stealing their child from her. The sorceress curses him with immortality, forcing him to live with the consequences of his actions; he would outlive his family and his kingdom. Bitter, ruthless and notably vengeful, he would go on to eventually be MadeASlave, rebel, find himself in the World Wars, and gradually grow as a person. His millennia of life allowed him to grow fiercely intelligent, starting his own company, bankroll space colonization, and lead his own team of scientists in terraforming a new world. He'd see humanity through two great wars against an alien race, see peace, and eventually rule post-humanity as a GodEmperor. His abilities would go stronger with time, make peace with Obinrin, and he would live to see the end of the universe...and yet he would survive that. But the king did not die, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever much as]] [[AndIMustScream would want to]].
* Aja Oba, or John as he would later be called, [[DownerEnding looked to have a grim ending]]. Surviving the end of the universe, he would be expected to deal with an eternity of loneliness. And yet it seemed even he underestimated how long "eternity" is; uncounted eons after the end, a machine showed up in the void. Before it could vanish he clung on to it, finding himself flung back to some point in the 31st century, albeit not the one he was familiar with. That machine was none other than the time machine of Professor Farnsworth, having [[Recap/FuturamaS8E6IKnowWhatYouDidNextXmas recently updated it to go backwards]] and remembering he still had a copy after Bender smashed the original. He was deeply grateful for what Professor Farnsworth did, and the two have been doing some scientific research together. That said the immortal knows Farnsworth's [[MadScientist a crackpot, if a brilliant one]]. The Trope Pantheon noticed his presence in New New York, and decided to investigate. With his great intellect and study of physics, they decided to officiate himself as an official member of the pantheon, representing the trope of the ImmortalGenius.
* When he had entombed himself as a GodEmperor of a dying Earth, Obinrin revealed that they are not immortal, they just live a long time. Aja Oba wonders if this was a lie, as he had outlived the universe itself. Though given a second chance in the Trope Pantheon, he fears that one day he will outlast the pantheon's universe and found himself [[AndIMustScream in a post-universal void]] ''again''. So he needed an answer on if he can die, and who else to answer that than Death of the Endless. It's said she's the only member of the Endless to be completely immortal, destined to close shop at the end of the universe, though one can only imagine what will happen to her afterwards. Her answer [[NonAnswer wasn't satisfying; "you get a lifetime"]]. [[NotSoOmniscientAfterAll Rumor has it even she doesn't know]], though it's more likely that she's simply dodging the question. The king intends to get an answer one day and is keeping his eye on her. Grim was bothered by this, as he really doesn't like how he's this immortal who spits in the face of his job, however he's made it clear to the skeleton [[WhoWantsToLiveForever if he knew how to stop being immortal he'd take it]]. Really, the whole beef is more down to Grim's feelings of inadequacy. The Wolf, as an incarnation of Death, is somewhat frustrated by his inability to die but he holds nothing against him as he believes that he does value life in spite of all the tragedy he experienced.
* The fear of an AndIMustScream scenario remains for Aja Oba, though it is more the fear of a true eternity of isolation than some "million years or so". AM was infuriated to no end learning about Aja Oba, a man who has helped guide the humanity he hates to exist all the way until the sun started to die. The fact he was left alone after the end of the universe can only mildly arouse his sadism knowing his accomplishments. Aja Oba has balked the malevolent computer, since as a man who has [[TimeAbyss lived beyond the end of the cosmos]] and who has experienced so much he would not be broken by being reduced to "a soft, jelly thing", musing he would merely have to "play the waiting game" until AM's circuitry fails. It might be a bluff, [[NervesOfSteel but it shows balls forged]] from having SeenItAll. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech He made it clear the AM is a "envious, stunted thing railing against his existence]] [[MisplacedRetribution with whatever innocents in his reach]]", and he will plans for those Five Survivors to never find themselves in his grip. He's automatically sympathetic to Czeslaw Meyer and Sarda for the suffering their immortality gives them, though with Sarda it's one-sided since he acknowledges he's [[{{Jerkass}} a jackass]] [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse who's sad past doesn't absolve him of his actions]].
* Aja Oba became aware of Lord English, a Lord of Time who emerges at the NaturalEndOfTime as a summoning method. LE's goal, facilitated by his servant Doc Scratch, [[OmnicidalManiac is the destruction of everything]]. He's so absurdly powerful that he could [[KilledOffForReal make him stay dead]], however he's also a ''massive'' {{Jerkass}} [[CruelMercy who would rather spare him in the void so he may truly be alone]]. The Old Man From Nowhere noted "first time?" as LE had also given him a similar CruelMercy. He mused that like John, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever his curse]] is one born of hubris. Granted he was never a warlord, but [[EnemiesWithDeath he was quite a sore winner to the Brothers Death]]. As Aja Oba is immortal 1440's anomalous destruction has no effect on his person, though the same cannot be said for whatever building or other structure he's part of. [[Pantheon/SourcesOfInformation The SCP Foundation]] believes it might be worth their time keeping tracks on the former African king, especially if he's going to be more active in the fight against the GUAD.
* As someone who has seen the universe end, he cannot for the life of him fathom what could drive the GUAD outside of [[FeralVillain its more feral members]] to be an OmnicidalManiac. For starters, the universe is going to end eventually, and while some theorize/in some universes a new reality could emerge he feels that would probably happen anyway [[TheBadGuyWins even if they get what they want]]. Of course beings like Nekron find concepts like loneliness and boredom foreign to them, but with his knowledge of things like entropy their goals are more impatient than anything. He doesn't get why Nagash would want to rule TheNecrocracy [[ItsAllAboutMe where only he has free will]] either, since he'd basically be alone. Of course, this is down to Aja Oba not being TheSociopath; if he feels detached from humanity, it's because [[NeverBeHurtAgain he doesn't want to be hurt again]]. [[CompleteMonster They're utterly evil]] so these thoughts come a distant second to trying to stop them and hating them for their actions. He might hate Dr Weil more, as he feels that "the destruction of mankind is merely fleeting" [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and humans and Reploids should live a living death]] for what they did to him...[[ItsAllAboutMe aka punish him for his massive war crimes]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil with a]] FateWorseThanDeath.
* Interestingly, Galactus of all beings has inspired a bit of hope in him. He used to be a mortal scientist who survived the end of his universe, only to be reborn as the might Eater of Worlds. It gives Aja Oba some hope that he might be given a second chance in a new reality. He serves as one of few humans Galactus will talk to, due to this similarity. It has made him less interested in the Incubators trying to sell their system to avert heat death, as he's noticed since they are a HiveMind they're essentially running an abusive system in order to preserve the existence [[ItsAllAboutMe of basically a single individual]] [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist in a way that benefits them and not the rest of the universe, despite their claims of good intentions]]. [[ObliviouslyEvil Kyubey doesn't seem to understand said accusations of selfishness]], [[BlueAndOrangeMorality mind you]]. Ashildr has also made him feel somewhat better about his situation. While not truly immortal, being TheAgeless, she managed to make it all the way to right before the universe's end and was happy to join [[Pantheon/OpposingFate Clara]] in "the long way round", travelling the cosmos again through space-time. She's let him join her on her borrowed TARDIS as she very well knows what it's like to be him, [[TheFogOfAges though she admits her memories are more limited by a standard human brain than his]].
* Aja Oba has also expressed some interest in Beerus and the Zen'o, specifically due to [[DeaderThanDead their ability to destroy/Hakai and erase]]. Though he has held a warrior's code against suicide he did attempt it when his boyfriend Jose died, [[BungledSuicide only to come back from that]]. [[PetTheDog Beerus has advised him not to try]], since by his own admission his Hakai cannot finish off someone like Future Zamasu due to his wish on the Super Dragonballs for immortality, and Aja's immortality might equal or even surpass that. Since Zen'o erased Infinite Zamasu, that could work on him but [[EveryoneHasStandards but the Omni-King is uncomfortable with what amounts to euthanasia]]...and now that he's in the Trope Pantheon he's feeling less suicidal. Zamasu, almost on cue, balked at the presence of Aja Oba, saying to him that he will never be anything other than the warlord he used to be and that [[CruelMercy he hopes someone like him will be the]] SoleSurvivor so he forever be punished and burdened with humanity's "sins". The immortal has decided to just tune out the mad Kaioshin's ramblings, quickly seeing him for the CompleteMonster he is.
* [[TimeAbyss Is in the running for one of the oldest deities in the Trope Pantheon]], though there are other deities that chronologically predate him and could theoretically surpass him in age at some point. He was born some time before the Roman Empire, [[BeenThereShapedHistory having worked under Hannibal in the Punic Wars]]. By his own admission he wasn't a good guy in his early centuries; he was a cold-hearted warlord and empire-builder, stole his concubine's child and killed her people. Even afterwards he was more vengeful and bitter. In many ways, he and Vandal Savage aren't so different, as Vandal was a similarly brutal warlord and caveman in his mortal years. However Aja Oba would grow out of his violent ways, [[ShadowArchetype and Vandal never did]]. [[NotSoDifferentRemark They've told each other that they're almost like two sides of the same coin]], and hold rivalling ambitions for humanity. On Vandal's better days the two will debate each other's methods, but that does not mean their rivalry is a friendly one. He has a more friendly rivalry with Qin Shi Huang, as their rivalry is built more on disagreements as to what the best path of humanity, in contrast to Vandal [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans who is more interested in just controlling said path]] despite what rationalization he might use.
* A warlord eventually turned benevolent GodEmperor, Aja's story has proven an interesting tale for Gilgamesh, as he once tried to find immortality. Much like Aja Oba Gilgamesh used to be an immature, cruel king, however he would grow into a ReasonableAuthorityFigure that has loved and lost. Attention has been brought on him by other long-lived individuals that are or have been rulers, like Omni-Man and Kratos. Omni-Man is reminded a lot of the Immortal from his universe, who has been described by the superhero community as "[[VirtuousCharacterCopy good guy Vandal Savage]]". He also used to be Abraham Lincoln. As a former slave who fought for the Union in the Civil War, and a cunning leader himself, he respects the 16th president, the latter of which is curious as to what interactions Frederick Douglass might have had with him. Nolan Grayson and Kratos used to be more villainous in their past but over time they've matured into measured leaders, much like Aja Oba, so much like Gilgamesh they get along with him.
* One of his first steps to being a more admirable figure was when he was MadeASlave. Renamed John, something he kept for quite some time, he carved out a niche for himself as Master Bill Smith's prizefighter, married fellow slave Ambermae and started a family. Unfortunately, Smith finds out about Aja's efforts to flee slaves from other plantations, and had both Ambermae and the children hanged, driving Aja to brutally murder Smith and flee into the wilderness. With this in mind, he's got to give Django Freeman a round of applause. He's decided to aid him in freeing slaves, starting with giving the business to Candyman. Calvin Candie is horrified and flummoxed at a black man that's both [[ImmortalGenius exceedingly intelligent and immortal]], as his existence goes against every single one of his racist beliefs. The same could be said about the head the Klu Klux Klan, Col Benjamin, who has rationalized Aja Oba's existence as a racist interpretation of the Curse of Ham. Bob Ewell hates him for similar reasons, however as a pathetic LowerClassLout and irrelevant no-one the immortal feels more disgust than outrage.
* In the future, he would find wealth and success running a major corporation, using his influence to establish a colony in another star system, building the new world as a tribute to his lost kingdom and loved ones. The war humanity had with an alien race cost him his love Jason Jose, the first person he opened up to after his vow never to love again. Later, after transcending humanity, he becomes the ruler of the restored Earth - a superpowered monolith commanding the allegiance of every living sentient being on the planet. Some comparisons can be made between him as the Emperor of Mankind, however he had the benefit of living in a much more friendlier universe, and a peace was made with man and xenos, a peace that saw the two races merge. [[AbsoluteXenophobe To the Imperium, this is blasphemy of the highest order]]. The Emperor refuses to accept John's choices, seeing him as a rival for humanity's future, but more so than Vandal he is willing to be civil [[EnemyMine and work together for shared threats to human existence and development]]. There are beings like the Daleks who simply cannot be reasoned with. Due to his immortality the old African king can get up from an extermination, [[ImmortalityHurts but it still really hurts]].
* With his ascension, he would become aware of the multiverse, and worlds with different physics and sciences from what he's familiar with. The House of Pantheon/MagicAndSorcery was of particular interest since the only true magic he remembers is the curse that gave him his immortality in the first place. He's used the time to research and understand magic [[MuggleWithADegreeInMagic even if much isn't accessible to him]]. [[Pantheon/FieldsOfScience Edward Elric]] helped him get the ropes, as despite being in said House he considers [[AlchemyIsMagic his trope]] more of a science. Lord Voldemort was rather livid at this, [[FantasticRacism as John is by his reckoning a muggle]], and the fact he has the immortality he's been looking for is infuriating. Voldemort's old teacher was a lot warmer to the former African king's study of magic. He can relate to his personal change and the pains in his past life; back in the day Dumbledore had some ambitions of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, but learned the error of his ways. That being said, Aja Oba's expertise remains science. He's been aiding the USS Enterprise and some SpacePolice deities in space colonization. He's formed a kinship with Senku Ishigami over their use of science to improve the world, and with the same mindset in mind, he has come to abhor the Maker for his use of science for great evi.
* He's more of a resident of the "immortality" side of the ImmortalGenius trope, something driven by the fact he never had anyone who shared his condition in his 'verse (except for Obinrin, and he only found that out billions of years later). Despite a number of disagreements he has with his father and the Imperium's policies, Vulkan is amiable to Aja Oba, respecting him as [[GeniusBruiser a brilliant warrior]] who ultimately has humanity's best interest in mind despite said disagreements. While finding his actions deplorable Aja Oba sees Voldemort more envious than anything of what he has, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever though the envy's clearly one-sided]]. [[EvilCannotComprehendGood As love is a foreign concept to the Dark Lord, the idea losing people would sour the idea of immortality is foreign]]. The same could be said of the deeply cruel and sadistic Sith Emperor, who boasts to the other immortal he doesn't fear [[AndIMustScream what comes after]]; he plans to simply rest and wait until the universe starts a new. [[TheOneThingIDontHateAboutYou Aja admits though that's the one good idea he has]]. On a bittersweet note, he wasn't alone in immortals who hurt from outliving those they love. Elric's father Van Hohenheim lived with the fear of outliving his children, though right before he was about to die he admitted he wanted to keep on living. Jack Harkness and the Doctor know the feeling of seeing who they care about die, something the 10th Doctor is more vocal about.
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** '''[[ComicBook/InfinitumAnAfrofuturistTale Aja Oba]], God of [[ImmortalGenius Immortal Geniuses]]''' (Hall of Forms of Immortality, LawfulNeutral)



** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter The Deathly Hallows]]''': a restoration and expansion for the Great Treasury. Basically this is expanding on the old Elder Wand profile by bringing the other Deathly Hallows into the fold. They're important and legendary magical artifacts, said to have been given the the Peverell brothers by Death himself. The Elder Wand is said to be the most powerful wand however it is notoriously difficult to hold on to. The Resurrection Stone allows you to communicate with dead loved ones. And the Invisibility Cloak does what it says
** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter Gilderoy Lockhart]], God of [[WriteWhoYouHate Being Based Off Who The Author Hates]]''' (Real and Legendary Pastiches, NeutralEvil)-Gilderoy Lockhart is the MilesGloriosus anti-mentor in Chamber of Secrets. This HateSink is based off of a real person that JK Rowling hated, "barely exaggerated" in personality from an enormous blowhard she had to deal with for two years. She hasn't specified who she hated to base him off to deny him the satisfaction



** '''[[Myth/ClassicalMythology Polyphemus]], God of [[ClassicalCyclops Classically Monstrous Cyclops]]''' (Hall of Eye Appearances)-Polyphemus is a major antagonist in the Odyssey. Unlike the elder divine cyclops who were wise and built things for the Olympians, Polyphemus was a member of the more mortal cyclops. They were known as vicious, giant brutes [[ToServeMan who ate people]]. Many like Polyphemus were children of Poseidon. He has some HiddenDepths such as a musical talent, but otherwise fit the stereotype the Greeks started
** '''[[Myth/EgyptianMythology Huitzilopochtli, Tlaloc, and Xipe Totec]], Triumvirate Deities Of HumanSacrifice''': the Aztecs are infamous for their practice of HumanSacrifice, an act they believed was a NecessarilyEvil to keep the natural order. Three major gods had their own take on sacrifice. Huitzilopochtli is the war deity of sacrifice that had the traditional heart-ripping out maneuver. Tlaloc is a rain and water god who's sacrifice involved dressing up seven children in the style of Tlaloc before pulling out their hearts, and the children crying before reaching the designated shrine was considered a good omen for abundant rain. The festival of Tozoztontli involved more child sacrifices in caves. And Xipe Totec, who flayed himself to feed humanity, has his sacrifices skinned and priests wore that skin



** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter The Deathly Hallows]]''': a restoration and expansion for the Great Treasury. Basically this is expanding on the old Elder Wand profile by bringing the other Deathly Hallows into the fold. They're important and legendary magical artifacts, said to have been given the the Peverell brothers by Death himself. The Elder Wand is said to be the most powerful wand however it is notoriously difficult to hold on to. The Resurrection Stone allows you to communicate with dead loved ones. And the Invisibility Cloak does what it says
** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter Gilderoy Lockhart]], God of [[WriteWhoYouHate Being Based Off Who The Author Hates]]''' (Real and Legendary Pastiches, NeutralEvil)-Gilderoy Lockhart is the MilesGloriosus anti-mentor in Chamber of Secrets. This HateSink is based off of a real person that JK Rowling hated, "barely exaggerated" in personality from an enormous blowhard she had to deal with for two years. She hasn't specified who she hated to base him off to deny him the satisfaction
** '''[[Myth/ClassicalMythology Polyphemus]], God of [[ClassicalCyclops Classically Monstrous Cyclops]]''' (Hall of Eye Appearances)-Polyphemus is a major antagonist in the Odyssey. Unlike the elder divine cyclops who were wise and built things for the Olympians, Polyphemus was a member of the more mortal cyclops. They were known as vicious, giant brutes [[ToServeMan who ate people]]. Many like Polyphemus were children of Poseidon. He has some HiddenDepths such as a musical talent, but otherwise fit the stereotype the Greeks started
** '''[[Myth/EgyptianMythology Huitzilopochtli, Tlaloc, and Xipe Totec]], Triumvirate Deities Of HumanSacrifice''': the Aztecs are infamous for their practice of HumanSacrifice, an act they believed was a NecessarilyEvil to keep the natural order. Three major gods had their own take on sacrifice. Huitzilopochtli is the war deity of sacrifice that had the traditional heart-ripping out maneuver. Tlaloc is a rain and water god who's sacrifice involved dressing up seven children in the style of Tlaloc before pulling out their hearts, and the children crying before reaching the designated shrine was considered a good omen for abundant rain. The festival of Tozoztontli involved more child sacrifices in caves. And Xipe Totec, who flayed himself to feed humanity, has his sacrifices skinned and priests wore that skin

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], really any member of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]

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* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Timmy Turner]], [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]], Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner really any member of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]Horseman]]'''



* For those wondering why Melkor would bother bringing a nobody like Suguru Kamoshida into the Trope Pantheon, it's ''because'' he's a nobody. Suguru Kamoshida is ultimately a test subject in "Operation Re-blackened Heart", a grander scheme of restoring the evil within those who've been forced to change to good one way or another. He was picked by Dr Light and the Purple Man's request, [[PragmaticVillainy to determine if it was a viable strategy for getting actually desirable allies]]. Kamoshida's resurfaced narcissism prevents him from realizing he's a glorified guinea pig and simply thinks he's important, boasting "I can do whatever the fuck I want" ala [[Pantheon/{{Derivatives}} Homelander]]. Homelander was intrigued by him being the guinea pig as in the World of Movies a version of him known as Kamoshida-man appeared as a superhero that misused his powers and authority, like him. Homelander ([[AdaptationalIntelligence more so the TV version]]), a man who is honestly a lot like him except much more ambitious, will be studying the first test of Operation Re-blackened Heart to ensure he has insurance should the Phantom Thieves of Heart manage to break into his Palace.



* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. One of his only allies there is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.

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* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. Despite being a major stickler for the rules and a total square, Seymour Skinner was so offended by Kamoshida's arrival he and Edna [[EnemyMine teamed up with Bart]] and other mischievous students to make him pay.
* Frankly, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the other evil teachers detest him]]. Denzel Crocker might be a SadistTeacher who seeks the power of FAIRY! GOD! PARENTS! but "pervert" is not a word to describe him, [[EnemyMine and he will actually aid Timmy Turner]] in making him pay. Kamoshida tried to reach out to Principal Krupp since as he was also brainwashed by students he thought he might sympathize with him, only to be called a sick bastard to his face by Krupp.
One of his only allies there in the House of School is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.
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* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so who in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]] and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.

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* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so who in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]] and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain.and inflicts emotional duress on him. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.

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** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd''': ''Carol And The End Of The World'' is a limited series where a planet is discovered to be destined to collide with and destroy the Earth. It explores people getting their affair in order and living with the apocalypse months away. Carol Kohl is the main character, an everywoman who is trying to figure out how to spend her last moments.



** '''[[WesternAnimation/CarolAndTheEndOfTheWorld Carol Kohl]], Goddess of Living JustBeforeTheEnd''': ''Carol And The End Of The World'' is a limited series where a planet is discovered to be destined to collide with and destroy the Earth. It explores people getting their affair in order and living with the apocalypse months away. Carol Kohl is the main character, an everywoman who is trying to figure out how to spend her last moments.

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** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 Corrodium]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. Corrodium is a notable phlebotinum from the Ben 10 franchise, mainly associated with aliens from the Anur system. It's this purple and potent energy source that acts as a mutagen to most non-Anur lifeforms, and is a plot device by Zs'skayr and his associates. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4468 Original version here]]
** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 The Anur System]], Celestial Seat Of [[HomeOfMonsters Monster-Inhabited Worlds]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. The Anur System is a mysterious and spooky star system in the Ben 10 universe. It is a MonsterMash where the aliens there look and act very similarly to classical monsters and spooky folks from Earth. They've got aliens that are like ghosts, mummies, Frankenstein's Monster, werewolves and even vampires...well, sort of, Vladats are endangered nowadays.

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** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 Corrodium]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. Corrodium is a notable phlebotinum from the Ben 10 franchise, mainly associated with aliens from the Anur system. It's this purple and potent energy source that acts as a mutagen to most non-Anur lifeforms, and is a plot device by Zs'skayr and his associates. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4468 Original version here]]
** '''[[Franchise/Ben10 The Anur System]], Celestial Seat Of [[HomeOfMonsters Monster-Inhabited Worlds]]''': restoration of an idea made by worldofdraken. The Anur System is a mysterious and spooky star system in the Ben 10 universe. It is a MonsterMash where the aliens there look and act very similarly to classical monsters and spooky folks from Earth. They've got aliens that are like ghosts, mummies, Frankenstein's Monster, werewolves and even vampires...well, sort of, Vladats are endangered nowadays.
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** '''[[Film/RogueOne Galen Erso]], God of [[KidnappedScientist Kidnapped Scientists]]''': adopted from Tropers/RokuAlhazared. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=4183 Draft here]]. Galen Erso is one of the key developers of the Death Star, but definitely unwilling. His FalseFriend Krennic forcibly recruited him by offing his wife and threatening his daughter, also pointing out if he won't do it someone else will. He gets his revenge by pretending to be a broken man so he can put in an AchillesHeel.
** '''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars Pong Krell]], God of [[YouWouldntShootMe Mocking Their Attacker That They Don't Have The Guts]]''': [[HateSink a truly odious]] InsaneAdmiral, he holds a [[FantasticRacism hatred]] for clones and proves the ArcVillain of the popular Umbaran arc. He sees them as tools and acts the part of GeneralFailure to kill them through UnfriendlyFire in hopes the Separatists will have him in their good graces...so he can be on what he thinks is the winning side. Eventually his clones rebel, and Rex puts his gun to him...with him confidant that he won't pull the trigger. He doesn't...but Dogma does.
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'''[[Film/InglouriousBasterds Hans Landa]], God Of [[TheVillainMustBePunished Villains That Had To Be Punished]]''' (Col Landa, the Jew Hunter)
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* Votes: 4 (Tropers/{{rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{wootzits}}, Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/SailorVenus372)
* Date of ascension: 18 May (repost 16 May)
* Halls: Pantheon/{{Karma}} (House of Pantheon/LuckAndFortune), Pantheon/VillainousFailure (House of Pantheon/{{Villainy}})
* Demigod
* Symbol: The swatiska scar that was carved on his forehead
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TX78g2ZAZM His soundtrack]]
* Alignment: NeutralEvil
* Portfolio: [[FauxAffablyEvil A Superficially Charming]] [[WickedCultured And Cultured]] [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]], BigBad, KarmaHoudini [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty Except Not Quite]], OpportunisticBastard, a MarkOfShame [[TheVillainMustBePunished The Ensure He Lives His Retirement In Fear]], [[{{Turncoat}} Switches Sides When It's His Best Option]], {{Omniglot}}, CunningLinguist, TooCleverByHalf, [[WrongGenreSavvy Mistakenly Believes He's In A James Bond-Like Plot]], [[CreateYourOwnHero Made Shosanna The Vengeful Woman She Is Today]], [[TheDreaded The Jew Hunter]], BecauseImGoodAtIt, BadassLongcoat, [[{{Hypocrite}} Hates Double Agents]]
* Domains: Nazis, Villainy, Turncoats, Opportunists, Cunning, Charm
* Allies: [[Pantheon/VillainousJobs HYDRA]], [[Pantheon/MannersOfDeath Dr Rene Belloq]], [[Pantheon/TheatricConvention Arnold Ernst Toht]], Lt. Col. Arnold Berkman, [[Pantheon/BossDesign General Heinz Bohm]], [[Pantheon/OtherWeaponTropes Franz Vahlen]], Orson Krennic, [[Pantheon/{{Enemies}} The various Waffen soldiers and the Nazi Storm Elites]]
* [[HeadbuttingHeroes Headbutting Villains]] with: Many ascended Nazis ''especially'' [[Pantheon/MotivationsForEvil Johann Schmidt/Red Skull]]. Of note; [[Pantheon/ConquestAndConquerors Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse]], [[Pantheon/RoyalPersonalities Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist]] on [[Pantheon/{{Duels}} Major Erwin Konig]]. Also, [[Pantheon/{{Depravity}} The Four Libertines]] (on his end, not theirs)
* Rivals: [[Pantheon/TraitorArchetypes The Spy]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/JusticeBringers THE BASTERDS]]''', Jewish deities like [[Pantheon/MetalAndMinerals Max Eisenhardt/Magneto]], [[Pantheon/{{Misfortune}} Zofia Zawistowski]] and [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Indiana Jones]], [[NaziHunter Nazi hunters]] like [[Pantheon/HuntersAndSlayers William J Blazkowicz]], [[Pantheon/CulturalValues Broforce]], [[Pantheon/NationalityArchetypes Team America, Charlie Company, 2nd Ranger Battalion, Robert Zussman]], various Red Army soldiers and generals like [[Pantheon/{{Duels}} Vasily Zaytsev]], [[Pantheon/TacticsAndStrategies Vasili Koslov]], [[Pantheon/ActsOfRevenge Viktor Reznov]], [[Pantheon/MannersOfDeath Dimitri Petrenko]] and [[Pantheon/{{Accessories}} Georgy Zhukov]], other Allied soldiers like [[Pantheon/MedalOfHonor Lt. Jimmy Patterson, Lt. Mike Powell, Manon Batiste]], [[Pantheon/MilitaryTechnology The crew of the M4A3E8 "Fury"]] and [[Pantheon/{{Gameplay}} Lt. Karl Fairburne]], [[Pantheon/AntiHeroism Night Raid]], [[Pantheon/{{Planning}} Light Yagami]], [[Pantheon/{{Heroism}} Steve Rogers/Captain America]], [[Pantheon/InvestigativeWork James Bond]], [[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]], [[Pantheon/CourageAndVirtue Oberyn Martell]], [[Pantheon/RoyalActivities Archduchess Ortfine Fredericka von Eylstadt]], [[Pantheon/MagicCasters Izetta]], [[Pantheon/{{Protagonists}} Johannes "Jojo" Betzler]]
* Opposes: [[Pantheon/{{Humanoids}} Millennium]], Sergey Taboritsky, [[Pantheon/CulturalValues the Aryan Brotherhood]]
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/MatureHumor Eric Cartman]]
* Hans Landa was one of Hitler's best agents. A member of the SS, he was known as "the Jew Hunter" for his ability to hunt and find Jews, stating this is because he doesn't simply hate them and can think like them. He was an important figure in helping the Nazis fight the Basterds and could easily detect a liar, however he's hardly a zealot of their ideology and at his core he's an opportunist. When the winds turned against him he would collaborate with their plan to assassinate the Nazi high command, under the conditions that [[WrittenByTheWinners he would be whitewashed in the history books and his own crimes ignored]], with him retiring to Nantucket Island. [[AlternateHistory The assassination worked]], and Hans would go on to solve a series of murders as an amateur master detective. Of course, Lt. Aldo Raine refused to let him get away scot-free, [[LoopholeAbuse and while he couldn't kill him there was another method of inflicting karma]]. [[MarkOfShame Something he couldn't take off]]...so a swatiska was carved in his forehead, branding him as a Nazi. He will constantly be afraid of what people will say about or do to him in response.
* Could be described [[NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed as a less influential but just as Machiavellian Reinhard Heydrich]], [[ExpyCoexistence something he's remarked on]]. He was just as ruthless and cold-blooded, though rather than be assassinated he managed to do what many folded into Operation Paperclip achieved. A KarmaHoudini [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty albeit not entirely]], Hans Landa [[LoveToHate has been well-remembered as a villain]] and so he was in consideration for a position in the Trope Pantheon. As he would get a special punishment via LoopholeAbuse, despite his earnest attempts to escape justice, TheVillainMustBePunished was decided for him. Personally Hans considers being in the Trope Pantheon a punishment; he's now in an environment where [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight people will refuse to let him off the hook despite the arrangement he got]]. And the Basterds are waiting for the moment he slips up [[PayEvilUntoEvil to go all out on him]]. [[Pantheon/BetrayalAndTreachery Starscream]] has quipped that he should expect to visit his house a fair bit since he's not going to get much trust from the evil gods either.
* Hans' ascension was among the ascended Nazis, seen as contentious. He was involved in Hitler, Goebbels, Goering and other Nazi high command's assassination in his universe, proving himself perfectly willing to abandon the ideology if it's for his benefit. However, few if any of the high-ranking Nazis that ascended ever held genuine loyalty to the Fuhrer, and they hold the idea above the man. Despite recognizing him as an opportunist, Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse saw in Hans a man that was still useful to the Nazi party and made it clear that Hans Landa will be offered a handsome reward for ensuring the ascended Nazi's triumph...but he's on thin ice and [[FateWorseThanDeath he will wish for the Basterds if he pulls the same turncoat stunt on them]]. Hans Landa was reluctant to agree with this, but ultimately did so as his reputation precedes him, or in other words he already had so many angry eyes on him that siding with the Nazis again would increase his allies list.
* The Red Skull has quite the love-hate relationship with Hans Landa. Though he makes no secret [[TheStarscream he sought to become Fuhrer]], he's usually written as a genuine believer so he doesn't respect Hans' "flip-flopping". And Adolf Hitler was not just his personal idol, but arguably [[ParentalSubstitute a second father]]. However he cannot help but respect Hans' cunning and effectiveness, citing that if he held genuine conviction and loyalty in the cause [[VillainousFriendship they would be close friends]]. Landa respects the Skull's determination and own cunning, however [[EvenEvilHasStandards he is not a fan of]] his BadBoss tendencies. Amoral he may be, [[AFatherToHisMen Col Landa has affection for his adjutant]] and was outraged to see the Basterds shoot him. The Skull gave him a positive review to HYDRA, admitting he'll fit their organization as a detective and intelligent agent like a glove. Since HYDRA is more broadly authoritarian than its Nazi roots, they are a lot more accepting of him. The various Waffen soldiers and groups in the Hall of Enemies are rather distrustful of Hans, but they are quite open to him proving himself. [[AFatherToHisMen Hans cares for his subordinates]] and coupled with his excellent charisma and communication skills, serving under him is a ''market'' improvement to [[BadBoss serving under the Skull]].
* While he is seem with skepticism by many Nazi deities, along with those tied to and working with the Nazis, there are some that get along with him swimmingly and overlook his {{Turncoat}} actions. Franz Vahlen has his own ambitions independent of Rommel and Hitler, and he plans to become Fuhrer himself. As a general he can give aid to Hans in areas he's lacking. General Heinz Bohm is a cunning [[TheMole mole]] who met with the two over some strudel, pointing out he is well-aware the pantheon's Nazi elite has their own internal power plays and schemes for and against one another, so the fact they're able to be friendly with one another will likely be a boon. They've met privately to discuss assassination plans on some of their own allies in case they prove to be a "liability", the details of which are a tight-knit secret but nothing out of the ordinary for the Nazis more skeptical of Hans. For now, at worst Hans Landa is a reliable traitor. He's still got significantly more respect than the Four Libertines, as while the Waffen-SS aided and guarded them they're considered degenerate, [[EvenEvilHasStandards and not from a racist perspective either]]. Hans will give them asylum [[TheFriendNobodyLikes but doesn't enjoy their company one bit]].
* On the other side of the proverbial coin, there are those that Hans Landa is quite critical of. He is flabbergasted that Millennium is still given the go ahead by the more traditional Nazis, pointing out they're insane. [[HypocrisyNod Yes he's aware he's not exactly a loyalist to the cause]], but he's not wrong feeling Mr "[[AxCrazy I like]] [[BloodKnight war]]" might be more trouble than they're worth. Adjacent to the cause, there's Sergey Taboritsky and the Aryan Brotherhood, who he's glad aren't proper associates due to how off their gourd they are. He's surprised the OTL Sergey was allowed to be part of the Nazi party, citing [[BoomerangBigot he's a Russian monarchist with a Jewish mother]]. Pointing this out only caused the Blessed Regent to go on a rant of "[[MadnessMantra I AM NOT A JEW I AM NOT CAIN!!]]" On a lighter note, he's bothered by the attention that Cartman has given him. Cartman thinks he's "super kewl" and wants to be involved, albeit with some cognitive dissonance to ignore the fact he helped with Hitler's assassination in his timeline. Col Landa accurately finds him an annoying little brat and doesn't want his attention. On yet another note, back when he had an idealized view of the Nazis Jojo Betzler used to admire Hans as being this cool and stylish figure, but the Nazis have become a major BrokenPedestal and he now wishes never to become like him. Col Landa sees this as more of a shame than anything, though he muses [[MinionWithAnFInEvil he never really had the stomach for it]].
* It is debatable as to how much of a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain he is, as his affinity for Nazi ideology is debatable. He compares Jews to rats, but unlike other Nazis this is not meant to be an insult. Rather, it's a weird, if offensive compliment as he points out that rats are resourceful and cunning animals. He's very good at rooting out Jewish families in hiding, so this and his other crimes prevent him from being seen as anything other than an enemy by Jewish deities. And for those that directly suffered under Nazi oppression like Sophie and Magneto, no amount of FauxAffablyEvil charm would dissuade them from wanting to cave his skull in. As Magneto was able [[PayEvilUntoEvil to give a personal vengeance to Red Skull]], a punishment so bad [[IgnoredEpiphany he almost ended up rethinking his life]], the "Jew hunter" lives in fear of what he might do to him. One non-Jew that Col Landa is on red alert for is B.J. Blazkowicz, though he does hold some VillainRespect for him; his crusade against the Nazis is one that rivals, if not even surpasses his arch-enemies, the Basterds.
* Many feel that the Basterds "went easy on him", though that's only because they could not afford to kill him. The Phantom Thieves of Heart don't plan to kill him, but they do plan to make him actually re-evaluate his life [[HeelFaceBrainwashing by stealing his heart, and thus force him to feel guilt for his actions]]. Landa muses "I wonder if [[FateWorseThanDeath I'd prefer execution]]...not that I'd ever want to test that, of course". Night Raid considers him someone to go after for his crimes regardless of red tape. Light Yagami plans to write his name in the Death Note, [[KnightTemplar though with less savory motives than most out for his blood]]. Hans Landa has rightly surmised that [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist his goals are more about power and pride than serving justice]], insulting him by saying "[[NotSoDifferentRemark I feel you would fit quite well with fascism if you were in the forties]]". And of course, there are the many Allied soldiers of WWII who want his head due to being a Nazi SS agent, even if it's not on the same PayEvilUntoEvil level as the Basterds. For bonus points the Red Viper of Dorne wants him to pay, as he's incensed by how he got away for the most part even if he had a karmic punishment.
* Most Allied soldiers still think it's BS that he managed to make a deal. It doesn't matter how ideological he is, he is a Nazi and even if the other Nazis refused to take him back, he would still be no less of a Nazi. The UsefulNotes/{{OSS}}, the very organization that spawned the Basterds, counts Lt. Patterson, Powell, and Manon Batiste among their members. Patterson and Powell have noted that Hans is [[EvilCounterpart a Nazi foil to them]]; they're highly intelligent and skilled officers serving as part of their countries' respective elite units. Manon Batiste sees Col Landa's actions as hitting close to home as she's a French Resistance fighter that personally fought members of the Waffen-SS. She even infiltrating their castle in Wewelsburg, Germany, stopping members of the SS from blowing up Paris during the Liberation of the city of light in 1944. She also personally killed a Resistance DoubleAgent who was working with the Waffen-SS. Whatever prejudices he may have, Hans is no fool and considers her one a formidable enemy.
* Lt Fairburne has been ordered by the UsefulNotes/{{SOE}}[[note]]the British equivalent of the OSS[[/note]], who he worked with during the Battle of Berlin, to capture and interrogate him for information. With his disgust and contempt for the Nazis as a whole, he'd trust a hungry shark before he'd trust Hans. To bring out the fear of God in Hans he's got a close associate of the Basterds on the phone; Private Robert Zussman, of US 1st Infantry Division. A German Jew captured by the Waffen-SS during Battle of the Bulge, forced to become a laborer, tortured, starved, beaten, and nearly executed by an SS officer? Yeah, you'd get why he'd, [[WebAnimation/DeathBattle to paraphrase]] [[Pantheon/RegretAndShame Omni-Man]], want to make Col Landa eat his own heart. Right behind him is [[Pantheon/MilitaryTechnology the Crew of the Fury]], who fought members of the Waffen-SS during the Battle of Germany in April 1945 (so around Hitler's death OTL). Their leader and tank commander Sgt. "Wardaddy" Collier in particular hates the Waffen-SS (implied to be due to the Malmedy Massacre that was committed by the 1st SS Panzer Division), and doesn't hesitate to execute their officers in cold blood as revenge, especially if said officers are guilty of murdering children and old men who refuse to fight for the dying Nazi regime.
* Hans Landa has a friendship with [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the somewhat but not quite Nazi]] Arnold Berkman. Major of the Germanian army's special unit, Berkman is a cunning figure who is ultimately more of an opportunist [[ItsAllAboutMe who's loyalty is to Numero Uno]], and got away unscathed. He's even more of a KarmaHoudini than Hans, [[EyeScream though he would lose an eye]]. The two enjoy swapping stories and participating in the finer things in life. Orson Krennic is another friend of Hans, as he's a well-dressed and [[FauxAffablyEvil superficially friendly]] fascist. They have different specialties though, as Hans is more of a detective/intelligence agent and Krennic develops military technology. [[Pantheon/OutlooksOnLife Tarkin]] was disappointed by their friendship as he had hoped to associate with Col Landa, but his own heated rivalry with Krennic causes just too much friction for that to be the case anymore. On the flip side, the obvious similarities with the Germanian army's ideology makes him a clear as day enemy of Archduchess Eylstadt as she' been subject to captivity and threats from the Germanian Empire. Coupled with his reputation and friendship with Berkman, she instantly hated him. By extension, Izetta hates him due to his association with the Nazis and HYDRA, who have tried to experiment on her following her ascension into the Pantheon.
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'''[[Film/MenInBlack "Edgar"]], God of StumblingInTheNewForm''' (Edgar the Bug, [[NamedInTheAdaptation Kerb]])
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* Adopted from: Adopted from Tropers/{{Shinobi}}
* Hall: Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} (House of Pantheon/{{Shape}})
* Lesser God
* Symbol: Cockroaches drinking sugar water
* Alignment: NeutralEvil
* Portfolio: InsectoidAliens [[CreepyCockroach A Nasty Roach]] [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex With An Inferiority Complex]], BigBad, KillAndReplace Edgar [[GenuineHumanHide And Use His Hide As A Disguise]] ([[HughMann Not A Good One]], [[BodyHorror Especially Since Decomposition's A Thing]]), AtrociousArthropods, FantasticRacism towards mammals, EloquentInMyNativeTongue, [[AssholeVictim No-One Particularly Misses His "Host"]], [[AffablyEvil Tries To Be Cordial Around Humans]], [[PetTheDog Notably His Host's Wife]], SinisterSweetTooth, AxCrazy, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Has Sympathy For Earth's Bugs]] [[BerserkButton And Reacts Poorly To Them Being Squished]], StumblingInTheNewForm, EvilIsBigger, GeniusBruiser, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe Still Kicking After Losing His Torso]], [[NoNameGiven His Actual Name Isn't Mentioned]]
* Domains: Bugs, Aliens, Criminals, "Disguises", Brutishness, Inferiority Complexes
* Allies: [[Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} Arachne, Shelob]], [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} The Terraformars]], [[Pantheon/FormMentalities Albedo (Ben 10)]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} Zim]]
* Business relationship with: [[Pantheon/{{Commerce}} Charles Montgomery Burns]], [[Pantheon/{{Consumption}} Jabba the Hutt]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Nute Gunray]]
* Rival: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Boris the Animal]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/PlainNeutral Agent K and Agent J]]''', "space cops" (so [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor the Earth Green Lanterns]], [[Pantheon/CelestialBodiesAndStars Team Lightyear, the Space Sheriffs]]), [[Pantheon/{{Futurama}} The Planet Express crew]], [[Pantheon/Warhammer40000 The Imperium of Mankind]], [[Pantheon/StarWars The Galactic Empire]] (albeit ineffectually), [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Billy]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Shino Aburame]], [[Pantheon/{{Unpopularity}} Dib]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality The Doctor]], [[Pantheon/GameMechanics the Spore Player Race]], [[Pantheon/{{Sizes}} Hank Pym/Ant-Man]]
* SitcomArchnemesis with: [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} Fritz Von Meyer]]
* Respects: The Halls of Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} and Pantheon/{{Insects}} (except Lolth and the Radiance, because EvenEvilHasStandards), [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Agitha]], [[Pantheon/CourageAndVirtue James Henry Trotter]] (one-sided; they're more wary of him)
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Disguises}} Rubber Soul]], [[Pantheon/TortureAndMutilation Ramsay Bolton]]
* Distrusted by: [[Pantheon/ImpostorsAndImpersonations The Crewmates]], [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} E.T the Extraterrestrial]]
* Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper. That's a handy description of the alien terrorist known as Edgar the Bug, though strictly speaking "Edgar" is the name of his "disguise". Coming to Earth in hopes of obtaining [[MacGuffin the Arquillian Galaxy]], as a 12 foot cockroach he needed to keep that under wraps. So he killed a farm called Edgar and wore his hide like an ill-fitting suit. Given the radically different physiology [[StumblingInTheNewForm it made his movements awkward and gangly]], made worse by the fact [[BodyHorror natural decay was in effect]]. Still, it wouldn't matter if he got his plan to work; kickstart an Arquillian war against Earth, allowing him and his brethren to feed on all the dead bodies they want and use the power of the Galaxy for boundless energy. Time almost ran out, however he was fortunately thwarted by Agent J and Agent K. Even then, [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries he had family who wanted some payback for what happened]].
* Edgar woke up from a dream of a warm, humid land with rivers of sugar water and all the detritus and carrion he could eat. If that was "Bug Heaven", the Men in Black felt whatever god they have was feeling merciful all things considered. To his horror, he woke up in the human "Edgar suit", in a domicile with spare "Edgar suits". He noticed unlike the original they were artificial, making them more viable for a disguise. Calming down, he decided to ask if anyone was there and what this was about. He was approached by an ambassador of the Court of the Gods saying he had woken up in a larger universe, the Trope Pantheon, and despite his crimes he did earn a new title; God of StumblingInTheNewForm. Since this was a second chance of life, the roach decided to take this. The Men in Black were livid at yet another major perp making his face known, and he wasn't too fond of seeing them again either. But hey, at this point Agent K and Agent J have kind of gotten used to stuff like this happening.
* He's generally just called Edgar, sometimes Edgar the Bug or even the Bug. This is because his true name isn't stated in the movie or almost any other form of media. He doesn't mind if people use it, learning [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries his brother would go by Edwin]], but he mentions that he is named in the novelization-Kerb. Bugs [[AlwaysChaoticEvil have a rep of being full on nasty]], though EvenEvilHasLovedOnes is still in effect. And [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's not without standards]], like being annoyed by "primitive gender squabbling" and J's brazen womanizing. This makes him ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to Boris the Animal. Both have a clear arthropod thing going on and their own schemes to make their people prosper at the expense of the Earth, but Edgar considers his ambitions too destructive and that they stand in the way of his own goals. Boris thinks Edgar is a hypocrite, pointing out by endangering the Earth he was also endangering the insects he was fond of that lived on it. The two aren't enemies per say, as the MIB have their attention, but they don't even try to get along.
* It's not clear how exactly he got the "suit" "off" Edgar the farmer, [[GoryDiscretionShot but fortunately we never see the remains]]. [[GenuineHumanHide Given he's tight fit in human skin]], [[FlayingAlive the farmer didn't]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die peacefully]]. He wishes he could've made it a more fool-proof disguise, like how the Lich was able to fit into Billy's hide so well he even managed to hide the horn...and that's the only thing he'll say about the guy [[HorrifyingTheHorror as he's scared of the]] OmnicidalManiac. Ramsay Bolton wishes he could've witnessed what happened to the farmer and he wants to see Edgar more at work, as he's a fan of "[[FlayingAlive the Bolton tradition]]", however this creeps out Edgar. As he put it "[[FantasticRacism you mammals are under-evolved pond scum]] [[InsultToRocks but saying that would be a compliment]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards to a sicko like you!]]" He's more ambivalent towards [[Pantheon/ObsceneActions Leatherface]], the official holder of the GenuineHumanHide trope, but he still thinks he's a weirdo.
* His ability to impersonate human beings [[HughMann is limited]], though this is more due to physical problems than anything. Just because his disguise isn't all that convincing doesn't mean he's an idiot, as he's pretty cunning and good with technology; it's just that he's gotta make do what his massive frame permits. Rubber Soul heckled him for it, promoting his own ability to disguise himself, but rather than falling for the taunt the roach fired back; he critiqued him for [[PerfectDisguiseTerribleActing being so good at looking like other people, but not bothering to act like them]]. However he isn't interested in starting a fight, even if his {{Jerkass}} attitude annoys him, because he's curious as to what a properly trained Yellow Temperance could accomplish. Since Edgar is a hostile alien that impersonated a human being he's seen with distrust by the Crewmates. E.T also distrusts him, but for somewhat different reasons; Edgar's an alien hiding from the government, but in contrast to E.T he's a lot more hostile.
* There's some similarity to his disguise with [[Series/DoctorWho the Slitheen's skin suit]]. When Edgar learned about them, he decided he should try to go "for a vacation" on Raxacoricofallapatorius, since they had better suit disguise tech, but first he needed to take a snack. Said snack was Dib, who amusingly enough was fooled by his disguise[[note]]in fairness since his new disguise is artificial skin, it doesn't have the decay problem[[/note]] just long enough for the bug to get his hands on him. Fortunately the Doctor was present at the time and stopped him. Zim had a laugh at the whole thing but made it clear that Earth was his and [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou he's only one allowed to defeat Dib]]. His posturing ego initially put Edgar off, but he tolerates and will occasionally try to work with him against a shared foe as they're mean insectoids with an attitude and many enemies. Though maybe he just want to get close to Irken technology, he also agrees on how he dislikes humans.
* Edgar has a general empathy for what humans would call bugs. He lets regular cockroaches hitch a ride on his body [[BerserkButton and loses his temper if someone squashes a bug]]. Because of this, he's remarkably civil in the Halls of Arthropods and Insects, [[AffablyEvil and is genuinely friendly at the inhabitants]]. He only makes a couple of exceptions in Lolth and the Radiance, as [[CompleteMonster they're so depraved]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards he can't stomach them]]. Plus the Radiance has the power to control other bugs. Asides from the Terraformas, though, no-one there really shares his goals and he tends to get attention from the space cops. While usually peaceful there, there was a "bar fight" when, while enjoying a nice pitcher of sugar water, Swarm's bees started drinking it. Edgar doesn't like Fritz Von Meyer much, not so much that [[ThoseWackyNazis he's a Nazi]] ([[InformedAttribute it's not like he's espoused those beliefs that much]]) but because he dislikes seeing an undead human command bees.
* One of his friends is Arachne, God-Mother of SpiderPeople. Unlike the sociopathic Lolth she actually cares deeply for her brood, and he warmed himself up to her after thrashing around Billy for his abuse of spiders. Despite all of his crimes [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Edgar has clear love for his kind]] and was appalled Billy would try to squish his own spider-son [[FriendlyNeighborhoodSpider who has been nothing but compassionate]] just because he has arachnophobia. He tried scooping his brains like ice cream [[YourBrainWontBeMuchOfAMeal but a hollow knock was all he got from his head]]. While more frog-like in his true form, and thus someone he's mildly prejudiced towards, Edgar likes Albedo somewhat due to his disgust for the human form he found himself stuck with. Due to hating humans more and his own inferiority complex he's somewhat sympathetic towards the Galvan. Albedo sees him more as a convenient ally to steal stuff for his experiments, but they'll still act relatively civil towards one another.
* You can often see him conversing and planning with the Terraformas, fellow roaches with a nasty attitude who look down on vertebrates. [[FantasticRacism Edgar's dislike of mammals]] might be partly down to [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex how arthropods are looked down on]]. While "space cops" are enemies of his pretty much by default, he is particularly contemptuous to governments that look down on his kind. The Imperium of Mankind is notoriously xenophobic, and see him as a disgusting Xenos criminal...I mean he is a criminal, but still. The Galactic Empire isn't as xenophobic, but they still don't like non-humans. Edgar cites their genocide of the Genosians as a reason to hate the empire, [[VillainHasAPoint and in fairness he's not wrong]], [[EvilVersusEvil nor is he that the Empire is an unpleasant institution]]. However he's seen as a rather minor threat by both governments, all things considered, which only made him angrier because he was being looked down upon. Less understandably, he's gotten hostile with Hank Pym and Shino Aburame as he doesn't like how they're humans that order around bugs, however he almost always pulls his punches so as to not harm the bugs they command. He somehow rationalizes this as "a dirty move" and uses this InsaneTrollLogic to fortify his own FantasticRacism.
* Though he doesn't like humans, he does make an exception for a few. As he's a criminal and a murderer who's actions endangered the Earth he's no friend of Agitha or James Henry Trotter, however he thinks [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "they're some of the good ones"]] due to their friendship and kinship with bugs. Mr Burns' curious fondness for bugs, with him being a beekeeper, got Edgar's attention. As an amoral billionaire he wasn't put off by Edgar being a 12 foot criminal cockroach and said that he would let him work at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant so he can make money to keep up the disguise. The bug decided "eh, why not?" and decided he could do with hiding in the plant when the cops come, as [[Pantheon/{{Officers}} Springfield's elite]] are incompetent and Mr Burns usually has a bribe ready. Edgar has gotten some "side-jobs" from Nute Gunray (via Poggle the Lesser's recommendations) and Jabba the Hutt, where he uses his criminal skills to do dirty work for them.
* He's made a few new attempts to steal artifacts of immense power. First off, he swindled [[Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary the Universal Remote]], initially believing its powers were exaggerated because if not why wasn't in Pantheon/MaximumSecurity (which he tried and predictably failed to break into). Having heard of some of the risks, until Team Lightyear could surprise and catch him he used it mainly to pause time whenever the Men in Black were in his sight so he could make a getaway. His next caper was trying to sneak into the Spore Player Character's ship to steal it for himself and be able to use all the ship's incredible abilities for himself, but he got kicked out while trying to figure out the controls. Finally he went to Planet Express to steal one of [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM the Professor's]] doomsday devices. This...[[TheBadGuyWins actually worked]], albeit the main reason Farnsworth's lax attitude to said devices. That being said he didn't have much bad to say about [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Zoidberg]], [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex as on some level]] he can sympathize a bit with the ButtMonkey status of a fellow arthropod.

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'''[[Film/MenInBlack "Edgar"]],
[[folder:Suguru Kamoshida]]
'''[[VideoGame/Persona5 Suguru Kamoshida]],
God of StumblingInTheNewForm''' (Edgar the Bug, [[NamedInTheAdaptation Kerb]])
{{Creepy Gym Coach}}es''' (Bastard King of Lust, Jersey-wearing Teacher, Mr Kamoshida)
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* Adopted from: Note: Adopted from Tropers/{{Shinobi}}
Tropers/Iceaura39
* Hall: Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} Teachers (House of Pantheon/{{Shape}})
School)
* Lesser God
Quasideity
* Symbol: Cockroaches drinking sugar water
His Olympic gold medal
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvMKQzL4tPg King, Queen and Slave]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxWMuW3jQg Blooming Villain]]
* Alignment: NeutralEvil
NeutralEvil (forced to be TrueNeutral [[ForcedToFeelEmpathy when his heart]] [[HeelFaceBrainwashing was stolen]])
* Portfolio: InsectoidAliens [[CreepyCockroach [[HateSink A Nasty Roach]] [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex With An Inferiority Complex]], BigBad, KillAndReplace Edgar [[GenuineHumanHide And Use Truly Despicable]] StarterVillain, DirtyOldMan representing {{Lust}}, [[CreepyGymCoach A Perverted, Lustful Gym Teacher]] [[SexualExtortion Who Uses His Hide Position To Extort Sex]], SmallRoleBigImpact, {{Narcissist}} and TheSociopath, [[SadistTeacher A Cruel And]] [[EvilTeacher Outright Malicious Teacher]], [[DumbJock The Grown Up Version Of The Big Dumb Jock]], JerkassAtYourDiscretion, JadedWashout, GymClassHell, HairTriggerTemper, GloryHound, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Raped Ann Shiho]] ([[SerialRapist implied to not be a one-off]]), [[RealismInducedHorror Stands Out As A Disguise]] ([[HughMann Not A Good One]], [[BodyHorror Especially Since Decomposition's A Thing]]), AtrociousArthropods, FantasticRacism towards mammals, EloquentInMyNativeTongue, [[AssholeVictim No-One Particularly Misses His "Host"]], [[AffablyEvil Tries To Be Cordial Around Humans]], [[PetTheDog Notably His Host's Wife]], SinisterSweetTooth, AxCrazy, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Has Sympathy For Earth's Bugs]] [[BerserkButton And Reacts Poorly To Them Being Squished]], StumblingInTheNewForm, EvilIsBigger, GeniusBruiser, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe Still Kicking After Losing His Torso]], [[NoNameGiven His Actual Name Isn't Mentioned]]
Realistically]] [[CompleteMonster Monstrous Individual]]...[[HeelFaceBrainwashing Until He Is]] ForcedToFeelEmpathy
* Domains: Bugs, Aliens, Criminals, "Disguises", Brutishness, Inferiority Complexes
Lust, Rape, Creeps, Abuse, Cruelty, Sports, Ego
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/MindControl Jervis Tetch/the Mad Hatter]]
* Allies: [[Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} Arachne, Shelob]], [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} The Terraformars]], [[Pantheon/FormMentalities Albedo (Ben 10)]]
'''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]
* Drinking buddies with: [[Pantheon/TaintedLove Judge Claude Frollo]], [[Pantheon/PersonsOfDesire Glenn Quagmire]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} Zim]]
* Business relationship with: [[Pantheon/{{Commerce}} Charles Montgomery Burns]], [[Pantheon/{{Consumption}} Jabba the Hutt]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Nute Gunray]]
* Rival: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Boris the Animal]]
[[Pantheon/{{Teachers}} Agitha Trunchbull]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/PlainNeutral Agent K '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Agent J]]''', "space cops" (so [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], really any member of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]
* Barred entry from: The House of Pantheon/{{Sports}}
* Suguru Kamoshida was a former professional athlete and Olympic volleyball champion who would find himself as
the Earth Green Lanterns]], [[Pantheon/CelestialBodiesAndStars Team Lightyear, PE teacher of Shujin Academy. A lustful man defended from consequences due to his reputation and corruption by the Space Sheriffs]]), [[Pantheon/{{Futurama}} The Planet Express crew]], [[Pantheon/Warhammer40000 The Imperium of Mankind]], [[Pantheon/StarWars The Galactic Empire]] (albeit ineffectually), [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Billy]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Shino Aburame]], [[Pantheon/{{Unpopularity}} Dib]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality The Doctor]], [[Pantheon/GameMechanics principal, he has sexually harassed the Spore Player Race]], [[Pantheon/{{Sizes}} Hank Pym/Ant-Man]]
* SitcomArchnemesis with: [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} Fritz Von Meyer]]
* Respects: The Halls of Pantheon/{{Arthropods}}
female students on the volleyball team and Pantheon/{{Insects}} (except Lolth is forcing Ann Takamaki to go out with him to keep Shiho on the team. He's not much better to the male students, putting them through hell with spiked volleyballs and other brutal "teaching methods". When he assaulted Shiho to get back at being rejected by Ann, his crimes would make him their first major target [[HeelFaceBrainwashing to have their heart change]]. After defeating his Shadow, representing the sin of Lust, his ego was broken and he was submitted to arrest and therapy for his narcissism. Despite being a StarterVillain, Kamoshida sets the standard for how dark the villains of ''VideoGame/Persona5'' are going to get, and he stands out being [[CompleteMonster shockingly depraved]] [[RealismInducedHorror despite his relatively down to earth villainy]].
* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so who in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]]
and the Radiance, because EvenEvilHasStandards), [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Agitha]], [[Pantheon/CourageAndVirtue James Henry Trotter]] (one-sided; they're more wary of him)
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Disguises}} Rubber Soul]], [[Pantheon/TortureAndMutilation Ramsay Bolton]]
* Distrusted by: [[Pantheon/ImpostorsAndImpersonations The Crewmates]], [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} E.T
Purple Man basically smuggled the Extraterrestrial]]
* Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper. That's a handy description of the alien terrorist known as Edgar the Bug, though strictly speaking "Edgar" is the name of his "disguise". Coming to Earth in hopes of obtaining [[MacGuffin the Arquillian Galaxy]], as a 12 foot cockroach he needed to keep that under wraps. So he killed a farm called Edgar and wore his hide like an ill-fitting suit. Given the radically different physiology [[StumblingInTheNewForm it made his movements awkward and gangly]], made worse by the fact [[BodyHorror natural decay was in effect]]. Still, it wouldn't matter if he got his plan to work; kickstart an Arquillian war against Earth, allowing him and his brethren to feed on all the dead bodies they want and use the power of the Galaxy for boundless energy. Time almost ran out, however he was fortunately thwarted by Agent J and Agent K. Even then, [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries he had family who wanted some payback for what happened]].
* Edgar woke up from a dream of a warm, humid land with rivers of sugar water and all the detritus and carrion he could eat. If that was "Bug Heaven", the Men in Black felt whatever god they have was feeling merciful all things considered. To his horror, he woke up in the human "Edgar suit", in a domicile with spare "Edgar suits". He noticed unlike the original they were artificial, making them more viable for a disguise. Calming down, he decided to ask if anyone was there and what this was about. He was approached by an ambassador of the Court of the Gods saying he had woken up in a larger universe,
disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and despite worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his crimes he did earn a new title; God of StumblingInTheNewForm. Since this personality was a second chance of life, the roach decided Purple Man saying "be true to take this. The Men in Black were livid at yet another major perp making yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his face known, and eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't too fond of seeing them again either. But hey, at this point Agent K complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and Agent J enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.
* He manages to earn the personal ire of all four of the founding Thieves: he lusts after Ann and drove her friend to attempt suicide, broke Ryuji's leg back when he was a track star, told everyone to spread rumors about the Protagonist both because he stood up to him and because he wanted to, and his Shadow would
have executed Morgana had the Protagonist and Ryuji not intervened. A PsychopathicManchild of an athlete, [[EntitledBastard he thinks his past success makes him entitled to whatever he wants]] and despise the Phantom Thieves more than anything [[HeelFaceBrainwashing for having destroyed that sense of entitlement]]. Suguru Kamoshida despises brainwashers even if they have the best of intentions in doing so, though admittedly most are pretty bad people themselves. [[ItsAllAboutMe Personal insults are more why he hates those people than anything else]], which is why he makes the exception for Killgrave; [[PowerPerversionPotential he wants his abilities for the]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil worst kind of gotten used reasons]]. He also attempted to stuff like this happening.
reach out to Jervish Tetch, trying to relate his obsession with Ann to his obsession with Alice. While the Mad Hatter is undoubtedly creepy, Tetch [[ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth usually]] isn't a pedophile and it's more about wanting to live out the character role of the Mad Hatter.
* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
* He's generally just called Edgar, sometimes Edgar the Bug or even the Bug. This is because his true name isn't stated a pariah in the movie or almost any other form Hall of media. He doesn't mind if people use it, learning [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries his brother would go by Edwin]], but he mentions that he is named in Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the novelization-Kerb. Bugs [[AlwaysChaoticEvil have a rep of being full on nasty]], though EvenEvilHasLovedOnes is still in effect. And worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. One of his only allies there is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's not without standards]], like being annoyed by "primitive gender squabbling" and J's brazen womanizing. This makes him ALighterShadeOfBlack compared that she's deciding to Boris the Animal. Both have a clear arthropod thing going on and standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their own schemes to make their people prosper at the expense of the Earth, but Edgar considers his ambitions too destructive and house.
* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused
that they stand he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in the way being one of his own goals. Boris thinks Edgar is a hypocrite, pointing out by endangering the Earth he was also endangering the insects he was fond of that lived on it. The two aren't enemies per say, as the MIB have their attention, but they don't even try to get along.
* It's not clear how exactly he got the "suit" "off" Edgar the farmer, [[GoryDiscretionShot but fortunately we never see the remains]]. [[GenuineHumanHide Given he's tight fit in human skin]], [[FlayingAlive the farmer didn't]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die peacefully]]. He wishes he could've made it a more fool-proof disguise, like how the Lich was able to fit into Billy's hide so well he even managed to hide the horn...and that's
the only thing he'll say about the guy [[HorrifyingTheHorror as he's scared victims of the]] OmnicidalManiac. Ramsay Bolton wishes he could've witnessed what happened to the farmer and he wants to see Edgar more at work, as he's a fan of "[[FlayingAlive the Bolton tradition]]", however this creeps out Edgar. As he put it "[[FantasticRacism you mammals are under-evolved pond scum]] [[InsultToRocks but saying his [[AssholeVictim that would be a compliment]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards to a sicko like you!]]" He's more ambivalent towards [[Pantheon/ObsceneActions Leatherface]], the official holder of the GenuineHumanHide trope, but he still thinks he's a weirdo.
* His ability to impersonate human beings [[HughMann is limited]], though this is more due to physical problems than anything. Just because his disguise isn't all that convincing doesn't mean he's an idiot, as he's pretty cunning and good with technology; it's just that he's gotta make do what his massive frame permits. Rubber Soul heckled him for it, promoting his own ability to disguise himself, but rather than falling for the taunt the roach fired back; he critiqued him for [[PerfectDisguiseTerribleActing being so good at looking like other people, but not bothering to act like them]]. However he isn't interested in starting a fight, even if his {{Jerkass}} attitude annoys him, because he's curious as to what a properly trained Yellow Temperance could accomplish. Since Edgar is a hostile alien that impersonated a human being he's seen with distrust by the Crewmates. E.T also distrusts him, but for somewhat different reasons; Edgar's an alien hiding from the government, but in contrast to E.T he's a lot more hostile.
* There's some similarity to his disguise with [[Series/DoctorWho the Slitheen's skin suit]]. When Edgar learned about them, he decided he should try to go "for a vacation" on Raxacoricofallapatorius, since they
probably had better suit disguise tech, but first he needed to take a snack. Said snack was Dib, who amusingly enough was fooled by his disguise[[note]]in fairness since his new disguise is artificial skin, it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the decay problem[[/note]] just long enough for the bug remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his hands revenge, though he can't focus on him. Fortunately said revenge until he learns to quiet the Doctor was present at the time and stopped him. Zim had a laugh at the whole thing but made it clear BrainwashResidue that Earth was his and [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou "speaks up" when he's only one allowed to defeat Dib]]. His posturing ego initially put Edgar off, but he tolerates and will occasionally try to work with him against a shared foe as they're mean insectoids with an attitude and many enemies. Though maybe he just want to get close to Irken technology, he also agrees on how he dislikes humans.
* Edgar has a general empathy for what humans
feeling particularly violent. Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would call bugs. He lets regular cockroaches hitch get a ride on his body [[BerserkButton surprise visit from Doge and loses his temper if someone squashes the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a bug]]. Because DevilInPlainSight because of this, the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire,
he's remarkably civil also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the Halls only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of Arthropods tonal reasons]], and Insects, to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and is genuinely friendly at the inhabitants]]. He only makes a couple of exceptions in Lolth and the Radiance, as [[CompleteMonster they're so depraved]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards he can't stomach them]]. Plus the Radiance has the power to control other bugs. Asides from the Terraformas, though, no-one there really shares his goals and he tends to get attention from the space cops. While usually peaceful there, there was a "bar fight" when, while enjoying a nice pitcher of sugar water, Swarm's bees started drinking it. Edgar doesn't like Fritz Von Meyer much, not so much that [[ThoseWackyNazis he's a Nazi]] ([[InformedAttribute it's not like he's espoused those beliefs that much]]) but because he dislikes seeing an undead human command bees.
* One of his friends is Arachne, God-Mother of SpiderPeople. Unlike the sociopathic Lolth she actually cares deeply for her brood, and he warmed himself up to her after thrashing around Billy for his abuse of spiders. Despite all of his crimes
does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Edgar some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has clear love for his kind]] and was appalled Billy would try to squish his own spider-son [[FriendlyNeighborhoodSpider who has been nothing obsession with his LustObject, but compassionate]] just because he has arachnophobia. He tried scooping his brains like ice cream [[YourBrainWontBeMuchOfAMeal but a hollow knock was all he got entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from his head]]. While being anything more frog-like in his true form, and thus someone than drinking buddies.
* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders,
he's mildly prejudiced towards, Edgar likes Albedo somewhat due a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his disgust for the human form he found himself stuck with. Due to hating humans more closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and his own inferiority complex he's somewhat sympathetic towards the Galvan. Albedo sees lustful worm of a man who's position has made him more as a convenient ally to steal stuff for his experiments, but they'll still act relatively civil towards one another.
* You can
an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often see him conversing and planning go to cocktail parties with the Terraformas, fellow roaches with a nasty attitude who look down on vertebrates. [[FantasticRacism Edgar's dislike of mammals]] might be partly Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex how arthropods are looked down on]]. While "space cops" are enemies "safety in numbers" more than anything.
* Kamoshida is trying to restore his reputation by taking advice from the pedophile Humbert Humbert, who [[PsychologicalProjection projects him]] as "misunderstood", by making an autobiography where he tries to hide behind trying to cling onto whatever glory he has left and uses victim blaming, saying that they secretly wanted it. It's worth noting that he used to legitimately have a conscience at some point; he'd got fresh with a female reporter while drunk, and actually tried to beg for forgiveness and turn himself into the police. One
of his pretty much by default, corporate sponsors, however, helped cover it up and assured Kamoshida all was forgiven. So the "moral" of his ego-stroking autobiography SocietyIsToBlame [[NeverMyFault so he is particularly contemptuous should be absolved]]. Bojack Horseman wrote a scathing review of this book [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse as a pathetic attempt to governments that look down rationalize his actions on his kind. The Imperium of Mankind is notoriously xenophobic, and see him as a disgusting Xenos criminal...I mean he is a criminal, but still. The Galactic Empire isn't as xenophobic, but they still don't like non-humans. Edgar cites their genocide of the Genosians as a reason to hate the empire, [[VillainHasAPoint and in fairness he's not wrong]], [[EvilVersusEvil nor is he that the Empire is an unpleasant institution]]. However he's seen as a rather minor threat by both governments, all things considered, path]], which only made him angrier because he the sex offender thought was being looked down upon. Less understandably, he's gotten hostile with Hank Pym and Shino Aburame as hypocritical. [[HypocrisyNod Bojack is well aware he doesn't like how they're humans that order around bugs, however he almost always pulls his punches so as to not harm the bugs they command. He somehow rationalizes this as "a dirty move" and uses this InsaneTrollLogic to fortify his own FantasticRacism.
* Though he doesn't like humans, he does make an exception for
have a few. As moral high-ground]], but [[HeelRealization he's a criminal and a murderer who's actions endangered the Earth he's no friend of Agitha or James Henry Trotter, however he thinks [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "they're some of the good ones"]] due come to their friendship and kinship with bugs. Mr Burns' curious fondness for bugs, with him realize]] being a beekeeper, got Edgar's attention. As JadedWashout is not an amoral billionaire he wasn't put off by Edgar being a 12 foot criminal cockroach excuse for his own toxic behavior, and said that he would let him work at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant so he can make money to keep up the disguise. The bug decided "eh, why not?" and decided he could do with hiding in the plant when the cops come, as [[Pantheon/{{Officers}} Springfield's elite]] are incompetent and Mr Burns usually has a bribe ready. Edgar has gotten some "side-jobs" from Nute Gunray (via Poggle the Lesser's recommendations) and Jabba the Hutt, where he uses his criminal skills to do dirty work for them.
* He's made a few new attempts to steal artifacts of immense power. First off, he swindled [[Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary the Universal Remote]], initially believing its powers were exaggerated because if not why wasn't in Pantheon/MaximumSecurity (which he tried and predictably failed to break into). Having heard of some of the risks, until Team Lightyear could surprise and catch him he used it mainly to pause time whenever the Men in Black were in his sight so he could make a getaway. His next caper was
been trying to sneak into the Spore Player Character's ship work on improving himself. He sees Suguru Kamoshida [[ShadowArchetype as what he could've become had he lacked a desire to steal it for himself and be able to use all the ship's incredible abilities for himself, but he got kicked out while trying to figure out the controls. Finally he went to Planet Express to steal one of [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM the Professor's]] doomsday devices. This...[[TheBadGuyWins actually worked]], albeit the main reason Farnsworth's lax attitude to said devices. That being said he didn't have much bad to say about [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Zoidberg]], [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex as on some level]] he can sympathize a bit with the ButtMonkey status of a fellow arthropod.improve himself]].



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'''[[VideoGame/Persona5 Suguru Kamoshida]], God of {{Creepy Gym Coach}}es''' (Bastard King of Lust, Jersey-wearing Teacher, Mr Kamoshida)
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* Note: Adopted from Tropers/Iceaura39
* Hall: Teachers (House of School)
* Quasideity
* Symbol: His Olympic gold medal
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvMKQzL4tPg King, Queen and Slave]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxWMuW3jQg Blooming Villain]]
* Alignment: NeutralEvil (forced to be TrueNeutral [[ForcedToFeelEmpathy when his heart]] [[HeelFaceBrainwashing was stolen]])
* Portfolio: [[HateSink A Truly Despicable]] StarterVillain, DirtyOldMan representing {{Lust}}, [[CreepyGymCoach A Perverted, Lustful Gym Teacher]] [[SexualExtortion Who Uses His Position To Extort Sex]], SmallRoleBigImpact, {{Narcissist}} and TheSociopath, [[SadistTeacher A Cruel And]] [[EvilTeacher Outright Malicious Teacher]], [[DumbJock The Grown Up Version Of The Big Dumb Jock]], JerkassAtYourDiscretion, JadedWashout, GymClassHell, HairTriggerTemper, GloryHound, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Raped Ann Shiho]] ([[SerialRapist implied to not be a one-off]]), [[RealismInducedHorror Stands Out As A Realistically]] [[CompleteMonster Monstrous Individual]]...[[HeelFaceBrainwashing Until He Is]] ForcedToFeelEmpathy
* Domains: Lust, Rape, Creeps, Abuse, Cruelty, Sports, Ego
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/MindControl Jervis Tetch/the Mad Hatter]]
* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]
* Drinking buddies with: [[Pantheon/TaintedLove Judge Claude Frollo]], [[Pantheon/PersonsOfDesire Glenn Quagmire]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Teachers}} Agitha Trunchbull]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], really any member of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]
* Barred entry from: The House of Pantheon/{{Sports}}
* Suguru Kamoshida was a former professional athlete and Olympic volleyball champion who would find himself as the PE teacher of Shujin Academy. A lustful man defended from consequences due to his reputation and corruption by the principal, he has sexually harassed the female students on the volleyball team and is forcing Ann Takamaki to go out with him to keep Shiho on the team. He's not much better to the male students, putting them through hell with spiked volleyballs and other brutal "teaching methods". When he assaulted Shiho to get back at being rejected by Ann, his crimes would make him their first major target [[HeelFaceBrainwashing to have their heart change]]. After defeating his Shadow, representing the sin of Lust, his ego was broken and he was submitted to arrest and therapy for his narcissism. Despite being a StarterVillain, Kamoshida sets the standard for how dark the villains of ''VideoGame/Persona5'' are going to get, and he stands out being [[CompleteMonster shockingly depraved]] [[RealismInducedHorror despite his relatively down to earth villainy]].
* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so who in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]] and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.
* He manages to earn the personal ire of all four of the founding Thieves: he lusts after Ann and drove her friend to attempt suicide, broke Ryuji's leg back when he was a track star, told everyone to spread rumors about the Protagonist both because he stood up to him and because he wanted to, and his Shadow would have executed Morgana had the Protagonist and Ryuji not intervened. A PsychopathicManchild of an athlete, [[EntitledBastard he thinks his past success makes him entitled to whatever he wants]] and despise the Phantom Thieves more than anything [[HeelFaceBrainwashing for having destroyed that sense of entitlement]]. Suguru Kamoshida despises brainwashers even if they have the best of intentions in doing so, though admittedly most are pretty bad people themselves. [[ItsAllAboutMe Personal insults are more why he hates those people than anything else]], which is why he makes the exception for Killgrave; [[PowerPerversionPotential he wants his abilities for the]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil worst kind of reasons]]. He also attempted to reach out to Jervish Tetch, trying to relate his obsession with Ann to his obsession with Alice. While the Mad Hatter is undoubtedly creepy, Tetch [[ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth usually]] isn't a pedophile and it's more about wanting to live out the character role of the Mad Hatter.
* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. One of his only allies there is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.
* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused that he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his [[AssholeVictim that probably had it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge until he learns to quiet the BrainwashResidue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of tonal reasons]], and to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and [[EvenEvilHasStandards he does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his LustObject, but his entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies.
* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything.
* Kamoshida is trying to restore his reputation by taking advice from the pedophile Humbert Humbert, who [[PsychologicalProjection projects him]] as "misunderstood", by making an autobiography where he tries to hide behind trying to cling onto whatever glory he has left and uses victim blaming, saying that they secretly wanted it. It's worth noting that he used to legitimately have a conscience at some point; he'd got fresh with a female reporter while drunk, and actually tried to beg for forgiveness and turn himself into the police. One of his corporate sponsors, however, helped cover it up and assured Kamoshida all was forgiven. So the "moral" of his ego-stroking autobiography SocietyIsToBlame [[NeverMyFault so he should be absolved]]. Bojack Horseman wrote a scathing review of this book [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse as a pathetic attempt to rationalize his actions on his path]], which the sex offender thought was hypocritical. [[HypocrisyNod Bojack is well aware he doesn't have a moral high-ground]], but [[HeelRealization he's come to realize]] being a JadedWashout is not an excuse for his own toxic behavior, and he has been trying to work on improving himself. He sees Suguru Kamoshida [[ShadowArchetype as what he could've become had he lacked a desire to improve himself]].

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[[folder:Edgar the Bug]]
'''[[Film/MenInBlack "Edgar"]],
God of {{Creepy Gym Coach}}es''' (Bastard King of Lust, Jersey-wearing Teacher, Mr Kamoshida)
StumblingInTheNewForm''' (Edgar the Bug, [[NamedInTheAdaptation Kerb]])
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[[caption-width-right:350:Top to bottom: Edgar in his human "[[GenuineHumanHide disguise]]" and Edgar's actual appearance.]]
* Note: Adopted from: Adopted from Tropers/Iceaura39
Tropers/{{Shinobi}}
* Hall: Teachers Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} (House of School)
Pantheon/{{Shape}})
* Quasideity
Lesser God
* Symbol: His Olympic gold medal
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvMKQzL4tPg King, Queen and Slave]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxWMuW3jQg Blooming Villain]]
Cockroaches drinking sugar water
* Alignment: NeutralEvil (forced to be TrueNeutral [[ForcedToFeelEmpathy when his heart]] [[HeelFaceBrainwashing was stolen]])
NeutralEvil
* Portfolio: [[HateSink InsectoidAliens [[CreepyCockroach A Truly Despicable]] StarterVillain, DirtyOldMan representing {{Lust}}, [[CreepyGymCoach A Perverted, Lustful Gym Teacher]] [[SexualExtortion Who Uses Nasty Roach]] [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex With An Inferiority Complex]], BigBad, KillAndReplace Edgar [[GenuineHumanHide And Use His Position To Extort Sex]], SmallRoleBigImpact, {{Narcissist}} and TheSociopath, [[SadistTeacher A Cruel And]] [[EvilTeacher Outright Malicious Teacher]], [[DumbJock The Grown Up Version Of The Big Dumb Jock]], JerkassAtYourDiscretion, JadedWashout, GymClassHell, HairTriggerTemper, GloryHound, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Raped Ann Shiho]] ([[SerialRapist implied to not be a one-off]]), [[RealismInducedHorror Stands Out Hide As A Realistically]] [[CompleteMonster Monstrous Individual]]...[[HeelFaceBrainwashing Until He Is]] ForcedToFeelEmpathy
Disguise]] ([[HughMann Not A Good One]], [[BodyHorror Especially Since Decomposition's A Thing]]), AtrociousArthropods, FantasticRacism towards mammals, EloquentInMyNativeTongue, [[AssholeVictim No-One Particularly Misses His "Host"]], [[AffablyEvil Tries To Be Cordial Around Humans]], [[PetTheDog Notably His Host's Wife]], SinisterSweetTooth, AxCrazy, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Has Sympathy For Earth's Bugs]] [[BerserkButton And Reacts Poorly To Them Being Squished]], StumblingInTheNewForm, EvilIsBigger, GeniusBruiser, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe Still Kicking After Losing His Torso]], [[NoNameGiven His Actual Name Isn't Mentioned]]
* Domains: Lust, Rape, Creeps, Abuse, Cruelty, Sports, Ego
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/MindControl Jervis Tetch/the Mad Hatter]]
Bugs, Aliens, Criminals, "Disguises", Brutishness, Inferiority Complexes
* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]
* Drinking buddies with: [[Pantheon/TaintedLove Judge Claude Frollo]], [[Pantheon/PersonsOfDesire Glenn Quagmire]]
[[Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} Arachne, Shelob]], [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} The Terraformars]], [[Pantheon/FormMentalities Albedo (Ben 10)]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Teachers}} Agitha Trunchbull]]
[[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} Zim]]
* Business relationship with: [[Pantheon/{{Commerce}} Charles Montgomery Burns]], [[Pantheon/{{Consumption}} Jabba the Hutt]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Nute Gunray]]
* Rival: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Boris the Animal]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} '''[[Pantheon/PlainNeutral Agent K and Agent J]]''', "space cops" (so [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor the Earth Green Lanterns]], [[Pantheon/CelestialBodiesAndStars Team Lightyear, the Space Sheriffs]]), [[Pantheon/{{Futurama}} The Phantom Thieves Planet Express crew]], [[Pantheon/Warhammer40000 The Imperium of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems Mankind]], [[Pantheon/StarWars The Galactic Empire]] (albeit ineffectually), [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Billy]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Shino Aburame]], [[Pantheon/{{Unpopularity}} Dib]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality The Doctor]], [[Pantheon/GameMechanics the Spore Player Race]], [[Pantheon/{{Sizes}} Hank Pym/Ant-Man]]
* SitcomArchnemesis with: [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} Fritz Von Meyer]]
* Respects: The Halls of Pantheon/{{Arthropods}}
and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} Pantheon/{{Insects}} (except Lolth and the Radiance, because EvenEvilHasStandards), [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Agitha]], [[Pantheon/CourageAndVirtue James Henry Trotter]] (one-sided; they're more wary of him)
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Disguises}} Rubber Soul]], [[Pantheon/TortureAndMutilation Ramsay Bolton]]
* Distrusted by: [[Pantheon/ImpostorsAndImpersonations
The Headmasters Crewmates]], [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} E.T the Extraterrestrial]]
* Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex,
and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], really any member a real short temper. That's a handy description of the alien terrorist known as Edgar the Bug, though strictly speaking "Edgar" is the name of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]
* Barred entry from: The House
"disguise". Coming to Earth in hopes of Pantheon/{{Sports}}
* Suguru Kamoshida was a former professional athlete and Olympic volleyball champion who would find himself as
obtaining [[MacGuffin the PE teacher of Shujin Academy. A lustful man defended from consequences due to his reputation and corruption by the principal, Arquillian Galaxy]], as a 12 foot cockroach he has sexually harassed the female students on the volleyball team and is forcing Ann Takamaki to go out with him needed to keep Shiho on that under wraps. So he killed a farm called Edgar and wore his hide like an ill-fitting suit. Given the team. He's not much better to radically different physiology [[StumblingInTheNewForm it made his movements awkward and gangly]], made worse by the male students, putting them through hell with spiked volleyballs fact [[BodyHorror natural decay was in effect]]. Still, it wouldn't matter if he got his plan to work; kickstart an Arquillian war against Earth, allowing him and other brutal "teaching methods". When he assaulted Shiho to get back at being rejected by Ann, his crimes would make him their first major target [[HeelFaceBrainwashing brethren to have their heart change]]. After defeating his Shadow, representing feed on all the sin of Lust, his ego was broken dead bodies they want and use the power of the Galaxy for boundless energy. Time almost ran out, however he was submitted to arrest fortunately thwarted by Agent J and therapy for his narcissism. Despite being a StarterVillain, Kamoshida sets the standard for how dark the villains of ''VideoGame/Persona5'' are going to get, and he stands out being [[CompleteMonster shockingly depraved]] [[RealismInducedHorror despite his relatively down to earth villainy]].
* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all,
Agent K. Even then, [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so family who wanted some payback for what happened]].
* Edgar woke up from a dream of a warm, humid land with rivers of sugar water and all the detritus and carrion he could eat. If that was "Bug Heaven", the Men in Black felt whatever god they have was feeling merciful all things considered. To his horror, he woke up
in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny human "Edgar suit", in a domicile with spare "Edgar suits". He noticed unlike the Phantom Thieves original they were artificial, making them more viable for a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it disguise. Calming down, he decided to ask if anyone was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one there and what this was about. He was approached by an ambassador of the more insidious strategies on Court of the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and Gods saying he had woken up in a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]] and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into larger universe, the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse despite his crimes he did earn a new title; God of StumblingInTheNewForm. Since this was a second chance of life, the change. roach decided to take this. The key word to restoring Men in Black were livid at yet another major perp making his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' face known, and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get too fond of seeing them again either. But hey, at this point Agent K and Agent J have kind of gotten used to stuff like this happening.
* He's generally just called Edgar, sometimes Edgar the Bug or even the Bug. This is because
his surroundings and enjoy true name isn't stated in the movie or almost any other form of media. He doesn't mind if people use it, learning [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries his brother would go by Edwin]], but he mentions that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.
* He manages to earn
named in the personal ire novelization-Kerb. Bugs [[AlwaysChaoticEvil have a rep of all four being full on nasty]], though EvenEvilHasLovedOnes is still in effect. And [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's not without standards]], like being annoyed by "primitive gender squabbling" and J's brazen womanizing. This makes him ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to Boris the Animal. Both have a clear arthropod thing going on and their own schemes to make their people prosper at the expense of the founding Thieves: he lusts after Ann Earth, but Edgar considers his ambitions too destructive and drove her friend to attempt suicide, broke Ryuji's leg back when that they stand in the way of his own goals. Boris thinks Edgar is a hypocrite, pointing out by endangering the Earth he was a track star, told everyone also endangering the insects he was fond of that lived on it. The two aren't enemies per say, as the MIB have their attention, but they don't even try to spread rumors get along.
* It's not clear how exactly he got the "suit" "off" Edgar the farmer, [[GoryDiscretionShot but fortunately we never see the remains]]. [[GenuineHumanHide Given he's tight fit in human skin]], [[FlayingAlive the farmer didn't]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die peacefully]]. He wishes he could've made it a more fool-proof disguise, like how the Lich was able to fit into Billy's hide so well he even managed to hide the horn...and that's the only thing he'll say
about the Protagonist both guy [[HorrifyingTheHorror as he's scared of the]] OmnicidalManiac. Ramsay Bolton wishes he could've witnessed what happened to the farmer and he wants to see Edgar more at work, as he's a fan of "[[FlayingAlive the Bolton tradition]]", however this creeps out Edgar. As he put it "[[FantasticRacism you mammals are under-evolved pond scum]] [[InsultToRocks but saying that would be a compliment]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards to a sicko like you!]]" He's more ambivalent towards [[Pantheon/ObsceneActions Leatherface]], the official holder of the GenuineHumanHide trope, but he still thinks he's a weirdo.
* His ability to impersonate human beings [[HughMann is limited]], though this is more due to physical problems than anything. Just because his disguise isn't all that convincing doesn't mean he's an idiot, as he's pretty cunning and good with technology; it's just that he's gotta make do what his massive frame permits. Rubber Soul heckled him for it, promoting his own ability to disguise himself, but rather than falling for the taunt the roach fired back; he critiqued him for [[PerfectDisguiseTerribleActing being so good at looking like other people, but not bothering to act like them]]. However he isn't interested in starting a fight, even if his {{Jerkass}} attitude annoys him, because he's curious as to what a properly trained Yellow Temperance could accomplish. Since Edgar is a hostile alien that impersonated a human being he's seen with distrust by the Crewmates. E.T also distrusts him, but for somewhat different reasons; Edgar's an alien hiding from the government, but in contrast to E.T he's a lot more hostile.
* There's some similarity to his disguise with [[Series/DoctorWho the Slitheen's skin suit]]. When Edgar learned about them, he decided he should try to go "for a vacation" on Raxacoricofallapatorius, since they had better suit disguise tech, but first he needed to take a snack. Said snack was Dib, who amusingly enough was fooled by his disguise[[note]]in fairness since his new disguise is artificial skin, it doesn't have the decay problem[[/note]] just long enough for the bug to get his hands on him. Fortunately the Doctor was present at the time and stopped him. Zim had a laugh at the whole thing but made it clear that Earth was his and [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou he's only one allowed to defeat Dib]]. His posturing ego initially put Edgar off, but he tolerates and will occasionally try to work with him against a shared foe as they're mean insectoids with an attitude and many enemies. Though maybe he just want to get close to Irken technology, he also agrees on how he dislikes humans.
* Edgar has a general empathy for what humans would call bugs. He lets regular cockroaches hitch a ride on his body [[BerserkButton and loses his temper if someone squashes a bug]]. Because of this, he's remarkably civil in the Halls of Arthropods and Insects, [[AffablyEvil and is genuinely friendly at the inhabitants]]. He only makes a couple of exceptions in Lolth and the Radiance, as [[CompleteMonster they're so depraved]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards he can't stomach them]]. Plus the Radiance has the power to control other bugs. Asides from the Terraformas, though, no-one there really shares his goals and he tends to get attention from the space cops. While usually peaceful there, there was a "bar fight" when, while enjoying a nice pitcher of sugar water, Swarm's bees started drinking it. Edgar doesn't like Fritz Von Meyer much, not so much that [[ThoseWackyNazis he's a Nazi]] ([[InformedAttribute it's not like he's espoused those beliefs that much]]) but
because he stood dislikes seeing an undead human command bees.
* One of his friends is Arachne, God-Mother of SpiderPeople. Unlike the sociopathic Lolth she actually cares deeply for her brood, and he warmed himself
up to him her after thrashing around Billy for his abuse of spiders. Despite all of his crimes [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Edgar has clear love for his kind]] and was appalled Billy would try to squish his own spider-son [[FriendlyNeighborhoodSpider who has been nothing but compassionate]] just because he wanted to, and has arachnophobia. He tried scooping his Shadow would have executed Morgana had the Protagonist and Ryuji not intervened. A PsychopathicManchild of an athlete, [[EntitledBastard brains like ice cream [[YourBrainWontBeMuchOfAMeal but a hollow knock was all he thinks got from his past success makes him entitled to whatever he wants]] and despise the Phantom Thieves more than anything [[HeelFaceBrainwashing for having destroyed that sense of entitlement]]. Suguru Kamoshida despises brainwashers even if they have the best of intentions in doing so, though admittedly most are pretty bad people themselves. [[ItsAllAboutMe Personal insults are more why he hates those people than anything else]], which is why he makes the exception for Killgrave; [[PowerPerversionPotential he wants his abilities for the]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil worst kind of reasons]]. He also attempted to reach out to Jervish Tetch, trying to relate his obsession with Ann to his obsession with Alice. head]]. While the Mad Hatter is undoubtedly creepy, Tetch [[ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth usually]] isn't a pedophile and it's more about wanting to live out the character role of the Mad Hatter.
* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With
frog-like in his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is form, and thus someone he's mildly prejudiced towards, Edgar likes Albedo somewhat due to his disgust for the most despised member of human form he found himself stuck with. Due to hating humans more and his own inferiority complex he's somewhat sympathetic towards the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Galvan. Albedo sees him more as a convenient ally to steal stuff for his experiments, but they'll still act relatively civil towards one another.
* You can often see him conversing and planning with
the Death Busters]] Terraformas, fellow roaches with a nasty attitude who look down on vertebrates. [[FantasticRacism Edgar's dislike of mammals]] might be partly down to [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex how arthropods are looked down on]]. While "space cops" are enemies of most his pretty much by default, he is particularly contemptuous to governments that look down on his kind. The Imperium of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], Mankind is notoriously xenophobic, and see him as a disgusting Xenos criminal...I mean he is a criminal, but still. The Galactic Empire isn't as xenophobic, but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member like non-humans. Edgar cites their genocide of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} Genosians as a reason to hate the empire, [[VillainHasAPoint and in fairness he's not wrong]], [[EvilVersusEvil nor is he that even tolerates the Empire is an unpleasant institution]]. However he's seen as a rather minor threat by both governments, all things considered, which only made him is Biff Tannen, what angrier because he was being looked down upon. Less understandably, he's gotten hostile with Hank Pym and Shino Aburame as he doesn't like how they're humans that order around bugs, however he almost always pulls his punches so as to not harm the bugs they command. He somehow rationalizes this as "a dirty move" and uses this InsaneTrollLogic to fortify his own FantasticRacism.
* Though he doesn't like humans, he does make an exception for a few. As he's a criminal and a murderer who's actions endangered the Earth he's no friend of Agitha or James Henry Trotter, however he thinks [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "they're some of the good ones"]] due to their friendship and kinship with bugs. Mr Burns' curious fondness for bugs,
with him being TheBully a beekeeper, got Edgar's attention. As an amoral billionaire he wasn't put off by Edgar being a 12 foot criminal cockroach and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then said that he would let him work at the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him Springfield Nuclear Power Plant so he can make money to keep up the disguise. The bug decided "eh, why not?" and decided he could do with hiding in the plant when the cops come, as StupidEvil.
[[Pantheon/{{Officers}} Springfield's elite]] are incompetent and Mr Burns usually has a bribe ready. Edgar has gotten some "side-jobs" from Nute Gunray (via Poggle the Lesser's recommendations) and Jabba the Hutt, where he uses his criminal skills to do dirty work for them.
* He's made a pariah in few new attempts to steal artifacts of immense power. First off, he swindled [[Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} Universal Remote]], initially believing its powers were exaggerated because if not why wasn't in Pantheon/MaximumSecurity (which he tried and considered one predictably failed to break into). Having heard of some of the worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. One of his only allies there is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.
* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused that he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his [[AssholeVictim that probably had it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge
risks, until he learns to quiet the BrainwashResidue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a Team Lightyear could surprise visit from Doge and catch him he used it mainly to pause time whenever the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though Men in Black were in his sight so he usually benefits from could make a getaway. His next caper was trying to sneak into the Spore Player Character's ship to steal it for himself and be able to use all the ship's incredible abilities for himself, but he got kicked out while trying to figure out the controls. Finally he went to Planet Express to steal one of [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM the Professor's]] doomsday devices. This...[[TheBadGuyWins actually worked]], albeit the main reason Farnsworth's lax attitude to said devices. That being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida said he didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of tonal reasons]], and
bad to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and [[EvenEvilHasStandards he does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his LustObject, but his entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies.
* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's
[[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Zoidberg]], [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex as on some level]] he can sympathize a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties bit with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything.
* Kamoshida is trying to restore his reputation by taking advice from the pedophile Humbert Humbert, who [[PsychologicalProjection projects him]] as "misunderstood", by making an autobiography where he tries to hide behind trying to cling onto whatever glory he has left and uses victim blaming, saying that they secretly wanted it. It's worth noting that he used to legitimately have a conscience at some point; he'd got fresh with a female reporter while drunk, and actually tried to beg for forgiveness and turn himself into the police. One
ButtMonkey status of his corporate sponsors, however, helped cover it up and assured Kamoshida all was forgiven. So the "moral" of his ego-stroking autobiography SocietyIsToBlame [[NeverMyFault so he should be absolved]]. Bojack Horseman wrote a scathing review of this book [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse as a pathetic attempt to rationalize his actions on his path]], which the sex offender thought was hypocritical. [[HypocrisyNod Bojack is well aware he doesn't have a moral high-ground]], but [[HeelRealization he's come to realize]] being a JadedWashout is not an excuse for his own toxic behavior, and he has been trying to work on improving himself. He sees Suguru Kamoshida [[ShadowArchetype as what he could've become had he lacked a desire to improve himself]].fellow arthropod.



** '''[[Literature/TheShadowOutOfTime the Great Race of Yith]], Divine Race of MentalSpaceTravel'''
** '''[[Literature/HerbertWestReanimator Herbert West]], God of [[MadScientistLaboratory Mad Scientist Laboratories]]''': Adopted from Tropers/PhantomFire



** '''[[Literature/TheShadowOutOfTime the Great Race of Yith]], Divine Race of MentalSpaceTravel'''
** '''[[Literature/HerbertWestReanimator Herbert West]], God of [[MadScientistLaboratory Mad Scientist Laboratories]]''': Adopted from Tropers/PhantomFire



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** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring
** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 2/3



** '''[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Stephen and Linda Stotch]], God and Goddess of [[YouAreGrounded Grounding]]''': Butters' abusive parents Stephen and Linda are very well-known for using grounding on Butters as a punishment. It's practically a catch phrase. Usually [[DisproportionateRetribution it's something minor]] or a misunderstanding, but in more recent episodes they have more of a legitimate case like using Facebook to spread misinformation. A video game reveals Stephen obsessively grounds Butters [[FreudianExcuse because his mother did so to him]]
** '''[[Series/Loki2021 Loki Odinson (Variant L1130) and Sylvie Laufeydottir]], God and Goddess Of [[AlternateSelfShipping Being Shipped With Your Counterpart]]''' (Hall of Clones and Counterparts)-two of the main leads of the Loki series. Sylvia is a genderswapped version of Loki, and the Loki in this series is a variant from the timeline created when the Avengers went back in 2012 to get the Space Stone. Fans frequently shipped them together, which is only helped by the fact there is some serious ScrewYourself subtext. [[spoiler:It ends up becoming somewhat canon]]
** I am thinking of giving [[ComicBook/{{Miracleman}} Johnny Bates/Kid Miracleman]] HelplessGoodSide, but I do not know how I should word it. A DeconstructedCharacterArchetype of the KidSidekick, Johnny is normally a sweet kid but his SuperpoweredEvilSide is a complete psycho. Bates is timid and horrified by this other persona, but he's also still a child due to Kid Miracleman having remained in superpower form since the early 60s, forcing Bates' body to remain in stasis for most of it with his mind helplessly trapped in Kid Miracleman's. He's bullied by his alter and forced to use summon him to avoid being assaulted. It's clear the only solution Miracleman has is to ShootTheDog the poor kid

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** '''[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Stephen and Linda Stotch]], God and Goddess of [[YouAreGrounded Grounding]]''': Butters' abusive parents Stephen and Linda are very well-known for using grounding on Butters as a punishment. It's practically a catch phrase. Usually [[DisproportionateRetribution it's something minor]] or a misunderstanding, but in more recent episodes they have more of a legitimate case like using Facebook to spread misinformation. A video game reveals Stephen obsessively grounds Butters [[FreudianExcuse because his mother did so to him]]
** '''[[Series/Loki2021 Loki Odinson (Variant L1130) and Sylvie Laufeydottir]], God and Goddess Of [[AlternateSelfShipping Being Shipped With Your Counterpart]]''' (Hall of Clones and Counterparts)-two of the main leads of the Loki series. Sylvia is a genderswapped version of Loki, and the Loki in this series is a variant from the timeline created when the Avengers went back in 2012 to get the Space Stone. Fans frequently shipped them together, which is only helped by the fact there is some serious ScrewYourself subtext. [[spoiler:It ends up becoming somewhat canon]]
** I am thinking of giving [[ComicBook/{{Miracleman}} Johnny Bates/Kid Miracleman]] HelplessGoodSide, but I do not know how I should word it. A DeconstructedCharacterArchetype of the KidSidekick, Johnny is normally a sweet kid but his SuperpoweredEvilSide is a complete psycho. Bates is timid and horrified by this other persona, but he's also still a child due to Kid Miracleman having remained in superpower form since the early 60s, forcing Bates' body to remain in stasis for most of it with his mind helplessly trapped in Kid Miracleman's. He's bullied by his alter and forced to use summon him to avoid being assaulted. It's clear the only solution Miracleman has is to ShootTheDog the poor kid
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** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Aegislash]], God of [[DefendCommand Defend Commands]]''': Old draft here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=358 Aegislash]]
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Komala]], God of [[LaidBackKoala Laid-Back Koalas]]''' (Hall of Mammals, TrueNeutral)


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** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Komala]], God of [[LaidBackKoala Laid-Back Koalas]]''' (Hall of Mammals, TrueNeutral)

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** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring



** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring
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%%If I haven't mentioned your prior suggestions it's because I couldn't think of a meaningful interaction



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** The Millennium Puzzle and Ring are unique since, as already mentioned, they contain the spirits of people. The Puzzle is notoriously hard to solve in large part due to Yami Yugi's influence and has a more general purpose of enhancing skill, accessing and protecting from magic. The Ring can find what the wielder is looking for like a compass, but benefits are outweighed by the malignant evil in the item. [[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions Even without Zorc or the Thief King, it's still corruptive]]. Voldemort was fascinated by these items since they work as a sort of [[SoulJar Horcrux variant]], though the abilities and how they function as "horcruxes" is somewhat different. He doesn't intend to steal them because he can't make a horcrux over something already "occupied" like they are, but it has inspired him to try and steal the other Millennium Items and make ''them'' horcruxes. Zorc is intrigued by this since it could allow him to influence Voldemort, but he and by extension Yami Bakura refuse to let him co-opt the artifacts.
** The Millennium Eye lets you read people's minds. Admittedly useless for telepaths like [[Pantheon/SpiritualAndMentalPowers the Martian Manhunter]] unless you want to play a Shadow Game, but pretty useful for anyone ''wanting'' telepathy. It's only got two downsides. One, if someone can pull a MemoryGambit like flipping between different personalities they can cheat the system. Two, [[EyeScream it requires an empty eye socket]]. This wasn't a problem for Bender that time he managed to steal the Eye, calling Pegasus "a lightweight meatbag" as he could just unscrew one of his eyes and plug the artifact in. He freaked out a bit when [[Recap/FuturamaS1E10AFlightToRemember he saw the spirit of the Countess de la Roca]], much as how Pegasus saw a vision of his lost love, but got over it. Bender almost won a big poker game until he went up against Fry, who's mind still couldn't be read even with a magic artifact. The Eye was later recovered from a nearby trash can and returned to the museum.

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** The Millennium Puzzle and Ring are unique since, as already mentioned, they contain the spirits of people. The Puzzle is notoriously hard to solve in large part due to Yami Yugi's influence and has a more general purpose of enhancing skill, accessing and protecting from magic. There are brilliant minds in the Houses of Pantheon/{{Knowledge}} and Pantheon/{{Science}} who can solve it faster than Yugi did, however the Nameless Pharaoh will only aid them if he wants to. The Ring can find what the wielder is looking for like a compass, but benefits are outweighed by the malignant evil in the item. [[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions Even without Zorc or the Thief King, it's still corruptive]]. Voldemort was fascinated by these items since they work as a sort of [[SoulJar Horcrux variant]], though the abilities and how they function as "horcruxes" is somewhat different. He doesn't intend to steal them because he can't make a horcrux over something already "occupied" like they are, but it has inspired him to try and steal the other Millennium Items and make ''them'' horcruxes. Zorc is intrigued by this since it could allow him to influence Voldemort, but he and by extension Yami Bakura refuse to let him co-opt the artifacts.
** The Millennium Eye lets you read people's minds. Admittedly useless for telepaths like [[Pantheon/SpiritualAndMentalPowers the Martian Manhunter]] unless you want to play a Shadow Game, but pretty useful for anyone ''wanting'' telepathy. It's only got two downsides. One, if someone can pull a MemoryGambit like flipping between different personalities they can cheat the system. Two, [[EyeScream it requires an empty eye socket]]. This wasn't a problem for Bender that time he managed to steal the Eye, calling Pegasus "a lightweight meatbag" as he could just unscrew one of his eyes and plug the artifact in. He freaked out a bit when [[Recap/FuturamaS1E10AFlightToRemember he saw the spirit of the Countess de la Roca]], much as how Pegasus saw a vision of his lost love, but got over it. Bender almost won a big poker game until he went up against Fry, who's mind still couldn't be read even with a magic artifact. The Eye was later recovered from a nearby trash can can, vigorously cleaned, and returned to the museum.



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** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 1/3

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** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 1/32/3

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* [[HeadbuttingHeroes Headbutting Villains]] with: Many ascended Nazis ''especially'' [[Pantheon/MotivationsForEvil Johann Schmidt/Red Skull]]. Of note; [[Pantheon/ConquestAndConquerors Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse]], [[Pantheon/RoyalPersonalities Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist]], [[Pantheon/{{Duels}} Major Erwin Konig]]

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* [[HeadbuttingHeroes Headbutting Villains]] with: Many ascended Nazis ''especially'' [[Pantheon/MotivationsForEvil Johann Schmidt/Red Skull]]. Of note; [[Pantheon/ConquestAndConquerors Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse]], [[Pantheon/RoyalPersonalities Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist]], Sturmgeist]] on [[Pantheon/{{Duels}} Major Erwin Konig]]Konig]]. Also, [[Pantheon/{{Depravity}} The Four Libertines]] (on his end, not theirs)



* While he is seem with skepticism by many Nazi deities, along with those tied to and working with the Nazis, there are some that get along with him swimmingly and overlook his {{Turncoat}} actions. Franz Vahlen has his own ambitions independent of Rommel and Hitler, and he plans to become Fuhrer himself. As a general he can give aid to Hans in areas he's lacking. General Heinz Bohm is a cunning [[TheMole mole]] who met with the two over some strudel, pointing out he is well-aware the pantheon's Nazi elite has their own internal power plays and schemes for and against one another, so the fact they're able to be friendly with one another will likely be a boon. They've met privately to discuss assassination plans on some of their own allies in case they prove to be a "liability", the details of which are a tight-knit secret but nothing out of the ordinary for the Nazis more skeptical of Hans. For now, at worst Hans Landa is a reliable traitor.

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* While he is seem with skepticism by many Nazi deities, along with those tied to and working with the Nazis, there are some that get along with him swimmingly and overlook his {{Turncoat}} actions. Franz Vahlen has his own ambitions independent of Rommel and Hitler, and he plans to become Fuhrer himself. As a general he can give aid to Hans in areas he's lacking. General Heinz Bohm is a cunning [[TheMole mole]] who met with the two over some strudel, pointing out he is well-aware the pantheon's Nazi elite has their own internal power plays and schemes for and against one another, so the fact they're able to be friendly with one another will likely be a boon. They've met privately to discuss assassination plans on some of their own allies in case they prove to be a "liability", the details of which are a tight-knit secret but nothing out of the ordinary for the Nazis more skeptical of Hans. For now, at worst Hans Landa is a reliable traitor. He's still got significantly more respect than the Four Libertines, as while the Waffen-SS aided and guarded them they're considered degenerate, [[EvenEvilHasStandards and not from a racist perspective either]]. Hans will give them asylum [[TheFriendNobodyLikes but doesn't enjoy their company one bit]].

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* Approved ideas (13/20). Feel free to PM and adopt if you're interested. Same with below

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** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)



* New ideas (main focus)-19/20. Feel free to PM and adopt if you want to.
** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.%%Proposed 1/3

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** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.%%Proposed 1/3
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** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter The Deathly Hallows]]''': a restoration and expansion for the Great Treasury. Basically this is expanding on the old Elder Wand profile by bringing the other Deathly Hallows into the fold. They're important and legendary magical artifacts, said to have been given the the Peverell brothers by Death himself. The Elder Wand is said to be the most powerful wand however it is notoriously difficult to hold on to. The Resurrection Stone allows you to communicate with dead loved ones. And the Invisibility Cloak does what it says
** '''[[Literature/HarryPotter Gilderoy Lockhart]], God of [[WriteWhoYouHate Being Based Off Who The Author Hates]]''' (Real and Legendary Pastiches, NeutralEvil)-Gilderoy Lockhart is the MilesGloriosus anti-mentor in Chamber of Secrets. This HateSink is based off of a real person that JK Rowling hated, "barely exaggerated" in personality from an enormous blowhard she had to deal with for two years. She hasn't specified who she hated to base him off to deny him the satisfaction
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** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.

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** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.%%Proposed 1/3

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