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Author: KingZeal

Nov 2nd 2012 at 1:05:49 PM

''Fat Slob is an entirely independent concept of what you're thinking of. The man who is past his prime is a trope in itself, called Jaded Washout (which actually used to be named "The Al Bundy" in the past). And I'm still not convinced that Men Are Tough is a better name than Action Guy. Men Are Tough would be a good name, but as you said earlier, "tough" is a fairly vague concept, and it doesn't explain some tropes. Now, I also proposed making a Men Are Uncouth YKTTW, which would cover Fat Slob and other related tropes.''

JadedWashout is only a zig-zagged subtrope of (the theoretical) MenAreTough.  The entire point is that without an outlet for their masculine identity, these men are utter failures everywhere else.  The best example of this comes in ''Film/SinCity'', with Marv.  During a scene in which Marv is DrowningHisSorrows at a bar watching the stripper he has a crush on, Dwight mentions that in another time, another era, Marv would have been the perfect {{Gladiator}} and would have had all the action (both violent and sexual) he could have ever wanted.

The reason "Tough" is a good word for this is because it means opaque, impenetrable, violent and thick in contrast to "delicate" meaning gentle, flexible, nurturing and soft.

But if that doesn't work for you, no biggie.  I can propose a new YKTTW if necessary.