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Anti-Hype Aversion
It seems that since the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises many people have come out to admit they believed Batman Begins was superior to both the third film and the second (more commercially successful) The Dark Knight. Many people would contend that they have "always" felt this way, but it's not my place to disagree with the duration of their own opinions.

Regardless, it's interesting to see that there hasn't been a review of this film yet. I personally think it's hypocritical to dislike Ang Lee's Hulk while praising this film as they both focus on the psychology of the lead characters. It's difficult to me to say what Batman Begins did better (especially saying I enjoyed both films). If I had to guess then perhaps it's that focus on realism that makes BB more appealing (Batman seems like he could actually exist). Batman is a character you can take seriously and realistically, the only character who can come close to Batman in this regard was Ironman.

I'd say Ra's Al Ghul was a good choice for a starter villain, some one close to Batman's own origin who could compete with him physically. Scare Crow was also portrayed effectively, his fear gas resembled what we've seen on the cartoons and comics. Despite Dr. Crane's "lack" of realism relative to Ra's, Joker, or Bane he is fairly ineffective as an opponent.

I liked Katie Holmes better as Rachel Dawes, get that out of the way.

Overall I'd say this movie was good as an origin movie but beyond that it needs the sequels to be fully appreciated. Alone it doesn't have the same stakes or lasting impact that TDK or even TDKR had. Batman Begins is really just about Batman, which isn't a bad thing so much as it narrows the viewing audience of the film.
Well, having seen both Hulk and Begins, Begins was better because it kept the development of the main character engaging, while Hulk's felt plodding. Plus the acting was better, and Begins lacked ridiculous moments like this one.

But indeed, it was the realism focus that made Begins special. Before this, superhero movies tended to be campier in tone, even if they did explore deeper elements, like Superman and the Spider-Man Trilogy. Begins changed that, and even if it's regarded as less deep of a film than The Dark Knight, it still set up a foundation for a new era of superhero movies that lets it remain an influence today.
comment #15706 Tuckerscreator 7th Aug 12
Begins was exiting, funny, and grounded where Hulk was just boring.

I still prefer the latter 2 films in the trilogy to Begins, but I do agree that in hindsight they make the first one better than it was in 2005, when its only compitetion for 'best superhero movie of all time' were Mask of the Phantasm and The Incredibles.
comment #15709 uncannybeetle 8th Aug 12
Best Batman film ever,then the Burton series ,then the other Nolan films which were just too damn pretentiousness and spelled everything out. See Begins had a lot of the same things that made 1989 brilliant,they would be neck and neck,...except 1989 failed to fully explain why Bruce decided to dress up as a bat to fight crime, all we have is,....he lost his parents. That could lead to a lot of things.

@uncannybeetle Of course,I suppose Spiderman2 and Batman mustn't exist at all if Mask Of The Phantasm actually qualifies
comment #15711 terlwyth 8th Aug 12
Those are two of the most overrated movies of all time. Batman lacked motivation for any character, leading to a lack of any plot, in addition to having quite a few other major problems. Spider-Man 2 is one of those movies that people just seem to excuse for the same things they blast the sequels for. I really like all three Spider-Man films, but none of them hold a candle to Mask of the Phantasm. I can't decide if it or Begins tells a better origin story for Batman. It has the best written love interest subplot in any superhero movie to date, and Mark Hamil gives one of his absolute best performances as the Joker, completely blowing Jack Nicholsen's version out of the water.
comment #15718 uncannybeetle 9th Aug 12
I really want to pick you up on the Spiderman 2 thing but I'm not sure if this is the right place :(
comment #15723 Tomwithnonumbers 9th Aug 12
My personal list of the best superhero movies ever would mostly be from the past few years.

1. The Dark Knight 2. The Incredibles 3. The Dark Knight Rises 4. Mask of the Phantasm 5. Batman Begins 6. The Avengers 7. X-Men First Class (I think that it is underrated) 8. Iron Man 9. Spider-Man 2 (I do think it belongs on the list, just not as good as the ones above) 10. Superman 2
comment #15725 uncannybeetle 9th Aug 12
My personal list of the best superhero movies ever would mostly be from the past few years.

1. The Dark Knight 2. The Incredibles 3. The Dark Knight Rises 4. Mask of the Phantasm 5. Batman Begins 6. The Avengers 7. X-Men First Class (I think that it is underrated) 8. Iron Man 9. Spider-Man 2 (I do think it belongs on the list, just not as good as the ones above) 10. Superman 2
comment #15726 uncannybeetle 9th Aug 12
@uncannybeetle

I'd say there's a difference between the "best" super hero movies and "our favorites". We as fans tend to conflate the two.
comment #15730 son 9th Aug 12
Hmm my favourites would be something like 1. Dark Knight 2. X-Men First Class 3. Spiderman 2 4. The Avengers 5. The Incredibles 6. X-Men Last Stand (I know :(, can't help it) 7. Amazing Spiderman 8. Iron Man 9. The Dark Knight Rises 10.Batman Begins

But as son said, I do know that some of those positions don't really reflect completely which one was best. My favouritism towards Magneto/X style relationships pushed First Class up a few positions. The list even seems to contradict some of my reviews. Whilst Amazing Spiderman has forever spoilt the Raimi's for me there was a plot in 2 that deserves to stand for something a little more than immediate enjoyment. And though Begins was more successful in what it did that TDKR, TDKR really pushed edges with it's plot as son mentioned in the review.

More on topic, I haven't mentioned it yet, but I really like this review, it manages to really cover everything that's needed to be known about Batman Begins really concisely.
comment #15734 Tomwithnonumbers 9th Aug 12
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