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I really like the writing of the newest series; especially the rebel flesh and the almost people, the Doctor's wife and the God complex but I seem to find myself having a problem with Matt Smith as the doctor. At first, his eccentricity was endearing; and it still is, that isn't the problem; the problem is that with David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston; you felt they had seen death, touched it; whereas the 11th Doctor has humour and intelligence, but no real weight; granted there are moments of it, and episodes like that, but usually he brushes his past of like it never happened. I assure you I am not a troll, and I still like the series, and I know I'll get backlash, but I just can't see him as a doctor who has touched death; that's all.
I myself grew up with 9 and 10, and I have the same problem with Matt Smith as you do.

However, there's something you've gotta understand. The angstiness of 9 and 10, along with their distinct moral codes, was pretty... new. The Doctor used to be fairly wacky while in all of his incarnations, but he also had no qualms about killing if it were necessary. The newer Doctors have been channeling the Who spirit whilst fitting a mold made by Russel T Davies, but Matt Smith has helped steer Doctor Who a bit closer to its fairly silly roots.

I still like Tennant better, though :P
comment #15616 MrMallard 1st Aug 12
Yeah, I'd say the 11 Doctor was more consistent with the original spirit of the show (not that this is automatically a good thing). I personally prefer 11, if only for the lack of both angst and gurning.
comment #15622 maninahat 1st Aug 12
I feel like, because angst doesn't happen with 11 much, it feels more earned when it does. 9 and 10 ladled it on, 11 uses a teaspoon.
comment #15624 Wackd 1st Aug 12
I get all your points and I do like him as a character but to me when he does angst it feels unnatural.
comment #15632 Whispurrs 2nd Aug 12
Agreed; He's just too much of a lovable goofball to convincingly BSOD onscreen.
comment #15643 MrMallard 3rd Aug 12
I know what you mean, but I'm glad he isn't the same as the previous and recovering. It was nice to have a change of place and progression, even if DT is my favourite, but I think if it's not angst, Smith does need something else because goofballing needs some contrast and change-ups to work or else it starts to become tiring instead of endearing (probably why I liked Tennant so much)
comment #15667 Tomwithnonumbers 5th Aug 12
I think Smith does very nicely when he has to act as a sad, old, mentor sort of figure; see the end of "The Big Bang". It's funny how his goofballing and youthful appearance contrast so much with his role in more emotional scenes.

I like Tennant better, but I think both are equally good; Tennant is just the second Doctor I watched (First being Eccleston, who was excellent), so he has more nostalgic value.
comment #15676 Scardoll 5th Aug 12
I understand your point, but I feel that I have to dispute it. No, Eleven isn't very angsty outwardly. At first glance, he's really a mad man with a box and a goofball who loves fezzes and bowties, but you have to look behind that. Look at all those scenes where his smile disappears when his companions aren't looking. Look at all of those scenes implying that he bears a massive amount of guilt for all that he has done. No, it isn't obvious. It isn't obvious because he hides it so much. It's best described as how Matt Smith put it here:

"Thatís what interests me about The Doctor because, actually, look at the blood on the manís hands. 900 years, countless, very selfish choices, and heís literally blown planets up. His own race, you know, thatís all on his hands. Which is why I think he has to make silly jokes and wear a fez. Because if he didnít, heíd hang himself."

He hides behind that goofball personality so people don't see how broken he really is, but there are so many points where you can see it. There are so many times when it is mentioned, never by the Doctor though, how much he relies on his companions, how alone he is, how much he hates himself, how much blood he has on his hands... it's all throughout seasons 5 and 6.
comment #16696 AryaAdrianiel 29th Oct 12
I agree wholeheartedly with Arya up there. It is actually really sad, because at first, you think that Eleven is getting over the grief and depression. But then you realise that, Oh God, it's getting WORSE. He is an amazing Stepford Smiler, I'll give him that.
comment #21108 MHMhasf1998 13th Sep 13
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