Minority Report: Or, when criticism ends and when pummeling begins.
Let's get this out of the way first and foremost, I like a lot of the reviews on the site. The reason is because I like it when people have different opinions to me, and aren't afraid to say it. I'm sure that's why a lot of people like him. He's eloquent and enjoyable to listen to.
However, I listened to his in-progress Minority Report review, and unfortunately I was hit with the one thing I will not abide from a reviewer or critic. I'll say what that is in a minute, but I need to get one thing out of the way first. I am a fan of Roger Ebert, but I wouldn't accept this thing even if the reviewer was Richard Nixon. Matthew overstepped the boundary between criticism of a person (which is completely acceptable) to an OUTRIGHT AD-HOMINEN ATTACK.
To summarise, Minority Report is what Matthew considers the worst film of all time. All fair to him on that, his opinion. The problem though is that not only does he hold Ebert responsible in some way for this, but he continues to drop F-Bombs on him and accuses him of being a liar. Why is Ebert responsible? Ebert recommended the film. His argument boils down to this statement, and correct me if I'm wrong:
'Ebert liked and went out of his way to recommend this horrible movie, when he criticised another film with the exact same issues. Either he is being an idiot for not noticing this, or he knew this and is intentionally misleading us, making him a liar'.
You're allowed to consider someone inconsistent, or even a hypocrite but we still hit the same problem. You are judging a person ON A FILM. You are inferring that someone is a bad person because they liked a movie that you didn't, regardless of the nuances that are put on it. I personally find that a hurtful thing to imply about anyone.
I don't know if I'll ever get a reply to this, I hope I do, but it was something I felt I needed to say anyway. Will I return to watch his videos? Yes. The fact that I don't agree with him doesn't make him a bad person, or that his opinions are invalid. It just makes me feel sad, because to quote one of his most famous lines. “You're better than this.”
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I was discomforted too. Not that any critic is beyond criticism, but to call one like Ebert "an idiot" for having an opinion contrary to Matthew? On the contrary, it is unimaginative of Matthew to not perceive that someone else might genuinely enjoy the film. He says (I paraphrase) "that for Spielberg and Ebert to say Minority Report is a good, clever film, they must be either stupid or they are lying." That seems a bit off to me.
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Everyone seems to forget on the subject of Roger Ebert that.....he didn't had a real reason for saying it, even if he may have a point, we're here to watch you review the movie, not a guy who liked it. The characters, the plot, specific events, actors, directors, yes, but not someone who like it, if he's going after people who had no part in the making of the movie what's stopping him from complaining about chad from accounting at his work for liking it.
8th Jun 11
(edited by: marcellX)
9th Jun 11
I know, specially since he goes after films that are popular, like the Minority Report and No Country for Old Men, saying that people just didn't realize why they are actually bad, but the whole worst movies ever claim is too over the top, what about the movies that were so bad they didn't even managed to make people think they were good, like Gigli or Disaster Movie, or movies that were so bad the directors, or actors apologized for it, there's the Razzies etc. etc.
18th Jun 11
(edited by: Tuckerscreator)
I completely agree. I liked Confused Matthew and his reviews before I saw the Minority Report trailer. Now I hate him.
He says he doesn't usually agree with Ebert, justifying this with the remark "This is after all, the man who called The Golden Compass a deeper film than the Lord of the Rings trilogy, for God's sake". This comes shortly after Matthew says "Minority Report is the worst movie I have ever seen in my life." And this really just shows how arrogant he is. Ebert's opinion on The Golden Compass is such an unconventional opinion it sounds like it came right out of the mouth of the man who said 2001: A Space Odyssey does not qualify as a film and Timon and Pumbaa are some of the greatest Disney villains.
Confused Matthew has no right, absolutely none, to mock anyone for having an unconventional opinion. You'd think somebody who hates as many popular movies would be advocating people's right to their opinions, right? But nope, he is so arrogant he believes that only his opinion could be right, and cannot fathom the possibility he could be wrong. And he then goes on to prove this further by FLAT-OUT SAYING TO ROGER EBERT, "YOU'RE AN IDIOT" (although he tells him "You know damn well this movie sucks" shortly after) and saying that if someone likes this movie, "they are either stupid or are they lying. There is no other option".
All of these words are coming from a person whose favorite movie is Moulin Rouge, which the Nostalgia Critic's actor named as the #1 entry on his Top 10 Movies I Hate That Everyone Else Loves list, and utterly tore it apart. And then he went on to review the movie in which he tore it apart even more, at one point saying "How could anyone possibly enjoy this?", mocks the idea it could even be considered a good movie, and brings on people who like it who eventually end up admitting it is only a guilty pleasure. Whereas Confused Matthew has stated multiple times it is the greatest movie he has ever seen in his life, and has also said if he were stuck on a desert island with nothing else, he would want his girlfriend and this movie. He even plays the poster of Moulin Rouge when singing "which movies rock" during his requested reviews theme song. When he was asked to change it by a fan, he replied that Moulin Rouge is the greatest movie he has ever seen in his life, therefore no other movie is appropriate.
At the end of Matthew's Minority Report review, while he admits Spielberg is not an "asshole" as he originally stated, he only wishes Ebert good health and hopes he reconsiders his thoughts on Minority Report.
Doug Walker could say this and every other offensive comment Matthew has made towards Roger Ebert to Matthew for liking Moulin Rouge, but he hasn't. Because he respects people's opinions. Granted, he didn't in the review, but he has said he loves the Nostalgia Critic because of how he tries to ruin movies he hates for everyone else,
and constantly states in his Top 10 Movies He Hates That Everyone Else Loves list that he doesn't mind that people like these movies, and that what movies you like and dislike doesn't say anything about you or not anything anyone should care about, and even that THERE ARE NO GOOD MOVIES OR BAD MOVIES, JUST MOVIES YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE. This is the last thing Confused Matthew ever believes. He even said he didn't think Doug could come up with evidence to support this.
Yes, I am aware that Confused Matthew said that he liked Doug Walker's list which he thought was "awesome", didn't think his points were stupid or even necessarily wrong, so that seems to go against what I'm saying about Matthew, doesn't it? No. He only said it because he likes the Nostalgia Critic videos, doesn't want the Critic to hate him, and doesn't want to get involved in an Internet war.
He actually said about Ebert's review "This is the most irresponsible act I have ever seen a critic engage in, to deliberately and forcefully encourage people to see a Godawful film." Doug Walker could easily have attacked Confused Matthew in his review and applied this comment to Matthew's playing the poster of Moulin Rouge over the "which movies rock" song in his general reviews intro, but he didn't. Whereas Confused Matthew found a video of negative comments Ebert made about another movie that could be applied to Minority Report, which he said he would be playing periodically during the video, and actually said "I will REVEL in your embarrassment, Roger Ebert..."
Matthew, you weren't embarrassing him. You were embarrassing yourself. He is such a petty, vindictive, hypocritical, arrogant ASSHOLE that I now can safely say that I hate Confused Matthew.
18th May 12
(edited by: Ashton)
It sounds like Matthew has become a little bit confused about the seriousness of watching films and writing reviews for them :D
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19th May 12
"Confused Matthew has no right, absolutely none, to mock anyone for having an unconventional opinion."
To be fair, he was no going after Ebert for being unconventional; he was going after him for being wrong. Just because Matthew trashes some movies most people love does not mean he can't go after other people for doing the same. That is, if what they like and dislike does not match up. I, for instance, also hate 2001, though I do consider it an actual film (a bad film). But that won't stop me from going after Matthew for overdoing it on Minority Report, which was not that bad.
If there was anything incorrect about his attack on Ebert it was the suggestion that Rog isn't on the up and up, though I don't doubt that someone who reviews as much as Ebert after so many years probably doesn't have a genuine response to most of what he sees. I'm not saying he was paid off or anything, but maybe he said Minority Report is a masterpiece (if that's what he says) for no good reason. Like, he was bored or something and realized he hadn't called anything a masterpiece for a while and arbitrarily decided to give Minority Report unearned credit.
Point is, Matthew doesn't establish anything of the kind. His review does little toward proving Minority Report is so obviously bad that Ebert could not possibly have legitimately thought it was good and therefore must be guilty of all manner of misrepresentation. Most of his criticism was, like most of his reviews, neither here nor there for people who aren't him and didn't share his immediate reactions.
For instance, he makes much of how there's already a law against what the future cops (or whatever they're called) arrest people for, and it is attempted murder. Well, no, that's only if you catch them late enough for them to be in the midst of attempting murder. If you get to them before their attempt, you are arresting them not for attempted murder but for future murder. Even so, in the cases where the perpetraitor goes so far as to attempt murder, there is a difference between attempting murder and being fated to commit murder unless interfered with. Minority Report is based on these being certain future acts—at least so long as the seers aren't being tricked—not just possibilities.
Suffice to say much of his criticism is suchlike. Not that Minority Report isn't flawed, nor that he doesn't score palpable hits. He simply doesn't rise to demonstrating that Ebert is a fraud and we don't need to listen to him.
5th Jun 12
5th Jun 12
"Yes but we're there for the review on the movie, not his thoughts on some other person who has absolutely no relation to said film."
Ebert is the most famous film critic in the country, and Confused Matthew is a film critic of sorts. People don't necessarily base their ticket-buying decisions on Ebert's thumb, but he does exert influence over the moviegoing public. If Matthew thinks Ebert has sullied criticdom by misrepresenting Minority Report, I think it is appropriate to the format.
It was an unfair attack, as Minority Report is not so obviously bad as Matthew avers, you are free not be interested in it, and he definitely did spend too much time on it. But that a critic criticizes other critics should not be that surprising. If it's off topic for most viewers, not so much as if he suddenly started lecturing us on ancient Sanskrit, or something.
"So the whole, you're either an idiot or a liar, irresponsible for liking this movie, I will 'revel' in the embarrassment, etc. etc. is all peaches then?"
Huh? I just said the problem was his suggestion that Ebert wasn't on the up and up. That pretty well describes the above. With the exception of the "revel" part, which I think is covered by my insistence that Matthew did not sufficiently demonstrate the obviousness Minority Report's badness. Since I don't think Matthew thinks Ebert is an idiot, I have him as leaning toward the liar side. Lying and not being on the up and up are synonymous.
"I've noticed you have an odd take on things."
Okay. I didn't come up with a good non-good reason for Ebert to have overpraised Minority Report, but you must know it happens. Critics don't often admit they're wrong, but sometimes. I seem to recall specifically Ebert retracting his crowning of Ace Ventura as the worst movie ever made. It is possible that he didn't really like Minority Report that much. If he originally panned Jim Carrey because, I don't know, he had a stomachache that day, maybe he found a really good new restaurant the day he saw Minority Report. Maybe he went in thinking it would be better than it was and rationalized away the flaws. Maybe he had been too hard on Spielberg lately and unconsciously wanted to tip the scales back the other way. Come up with your favorite explanation.
All this is not so important as what I was trying to do by admitting the possibility of Matthew's charge of disengenuity. Because the argument was that Minority Report is so bad there's no possible way Ebert was anything but disengenuous. Either that or he's an idiot, which none of us think. I merely took some of the steam out of Matthew's argument by offering other possibilities for Minority Report's greatness besides him being an out and out liar.
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