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One of the best
Final Fantasy X is the first game in the fourth generation of the Final Fantasy series, released on the PS2 in 2001. In my view, not only does it remain the best in it's generation (over XI and XII), but one of the best in the series period.

The story is fascinating and beautifully told. I'm fond of stories where characters get drawn into a whole other world and have an adventure there, and this is one of the best examples of these types of stories. There are many emotional twists and turns, and it all feels cohesive and appropriately paced. The biggest revelation that happens midway through the game even changes the whole story's nature when you go back and play through it a second time, catching on to all the prior Foreshadowing.

Of course, the story wouldn't work if it didn't have strong characters driving it, and this story has plenty of them. Yes, he spends a good quarter and a half of the game as a whiny Idiot Hero, but Tidus does develop and grow, to the point where he's mature enough to not whine when learning something about himself that would give him damn good reason to complain. Yuna is a great kind, gentle yet strong heroine, arguably even better than Aerith. Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri and Rikku are all likable supporting characters and each have some distinct development. Only Auron doesn't change, but that's because he's past his development already, and now is content being the ultimate Badass mentor. And of course, there's Sin, one of the most terrifying RPG antagonists ever.

Combine this with still visually beautiful graphics due to great art direction, a superb musical soundtrack, and fun, fast-paced turn-based gameplay (ignoring that damned Sphere Grid...), and you have an excellent RPG. The one complaint is that it's more linear than past games (with no World Map and all), but that was probably a cost of the upgrade to the PS2 the series had to make. Still, this game is, to me, the last "great" Final Fantasy game, and if it's upcoming HD rerelease proves one thing, it's that it's a classic.
Maybe calling it the last great FF game when there have only been two proper FF games since and there were 9 before is being overly pessimistic, but other than that a great review :D
comment #10616 Tomwithnonumbers 7th Oct 11
I don't mean that ALL 9 before this game were great, I just mean that nothing has really come close to X since (but that still could change; I'm not saying the whole series is neccesarilly Ruined Forever.)

To me, IV, VI, VII, and X are the greats, while V, VIII, and IX are very good, and I, II, and XIII are OK.

The less said about III, XI, and XIII the better.
comment #10682 ManwiththePlan 10th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
Oh i didn't mean it like that, I just meant that actually, it's been a long series and 2 games isn't really enough to show a trend or anything. I mean you've got a three game gap between v and viii. The last great just makes it sound a little final :D when i feel they've got two more games before the series becomes unrepairable
comment #10713 Tomwithnonumbers 11th Oct 11
^ It's not just numbered games that have declined. All Final Fantasy games made by Square Enix in the recent years save for Dissidia haven't been all that great.
comment #10728 ManwiththePlan 12th Oct 11
The spin-offs have never really been good. You said yourself that Dissidia was okay and FFXI managed to pick up a strong following.

The thing is each FF is so different from the last that it's hard to say anything definite about where the series is headed. It's like trying to judge Pixar films except the quality level is like that of Dreamworks films. Shrek 3, Shrek 4 sucked and then all of a sudden along comes How to Train Your Dragon (it didn't happen like that, but that's how I mean)

But in all honesty it was a vocabulary nitpick, not even a real criticism of your review FFX could well be the last good FF game and by many records it's the newest decent one. Just hopefully they've got another couple they can make before FF's are forever bad
comment #10752 Tomwithnonumbers 13th Oct 11
I actually just bought FFX second-hand, and i'd call it... decent. There have been better games, but FFX doesn't deserve most of the mass hate it gets.

I mean, sure it isn't the worst FF game ever. But by no way is it the best.
comment #10962 MrMallard 22nd Oct 11
F Fs are different enough from each other that people with wide ranges of tastes all can like one, so it's always going to be contentious trying to rank the series. VI, VII, VIII, IX, X and even XII are all going to appeal to different sorts of people
comment #11022 Tomwithnonumbers 24th Oct 11
I mean, sure it isn't the worst FF game ever. But by no way is it the best.

I think that saying is supposed to be switched around.

comment #11024 ManwiththePlan 24th Oct 11
I like that you bashed Nelo for being a fan hater, but your's is basically what his is, in the opposite direction.

The idea of the story is good, but the overall way they handled it was bad, it was poorly done and in the hands of someone better could have actually been amazing.

The gameplay is boring, I said it on the other review, if they'd thrown in something like the ring system from Shadow Hearts or the box from Legend of Dragoon, then the gameplay would have been a step above. As it was, it was pretty much like every other JRPG.

Overall, it wasn't the worst game I've ever played, but it was far from one of the best either.
comment #11079 Blackheart91 27th Oct 11
^ Funny, I don't recall ever advertising someone who shares my beliefs or bashing anyone just for not liking the game. But since I have a *GASP* positive opinion of this game that an internet Vocal Minority hates, I must be Fan Dumb!

And I love how you say "It was poorly done, it was so badly handled." but don't say WHY. It's really just a matter of you not being happy with what you got out of the story. I feel the opposite, and I expressed that in my review.

And I never said the gameplay was perfect. The Sphere Grid is and always will be a crippling flaw in the game.
comment #11087 ManwiththePlan 27th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
And Nelo had a negative opinion of this game so he must be Hate Dumb?
comment #11088 kay4today 27th Oct 11
Excerpt from other review:

Manwiththeplan:

"Ugh" is right. Somehow I KNEW this review would end in sucking Spoony's dick and shilling his unfunny review. everyone else sounds either irritating or bored So wait, you exclued LULU from sounding bored? Her voice was usually very dull, expository, and monotonous.

Nelo Angelo's Response: Notice the second sentence.

True, Lulu did sound bored, I excluded her because she was not a total blithering jackass and she had a great rack. Now, I KNEW some jackass would get on here and be a total fanboy. You found it unfunny because you are, more than likely, one of the people that likes this game. I pity you, I really do. Yeah, it's true that the writing in that scene (more like 95% of the goddamn game) sucks. They still are the most painful voice actors in the whole game. I don't like Wakka, and I HATE Rikku, but at least I didn't grind my teeth through every one of their scenes. I just face palmed.

comment #11089 eveil 27th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
And Nelo had a negative opinion of this game so he must be Hate Dumb?

It's not just the negative opinion, it's the way he expressed it. I cannot take seriously a review that spouts out hatred for the game and then cuts it short to shill Spoony's review that shares his same hateful opinion.

It's not opinion that makes one Fan Dumb or Hate Dumb, it's expression.

Notice the second sentence.

So Nelo calls me a fanboy, thus it must be true? Wow, I didn't know Nelo's word was gospel now! LOL, you trolls...
comment #11093 ManwiththePlan 28th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
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comment #11095 eveil 28th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
Look, I totally disagree with Nelo plugging Spoony's vid, not because the video sucked, but because the rule about showing posters for better movies within your own movie, really applies to just about anything. I understand why he did it, because as you said, we're a minority, so having a link to someone else reviewing the game and disliking/hating it just as much as one of us would add a little credence to the review. You don't need to have a link to someone else, most sources say this is a great game.

Personally, I'm middle ground. I didn't spend almost anything on my copy, I got my money's worth from it, if I had spent the full price like so many others, I would be pissed, as it is, I'm only slightly miffed. The leveling system was never really an issue for me, I didn't care about it one way or the other. As I said, it was the game play, as in the combat system's static style, not the leveling system.

Also, I never said you were Fan Dumb, just a fan.

And it was badly handled with the sheer number of stupid story decisions: 1) The technological level within every single temple. 2) The sheer number of times Yuna is kidnapped despite her obviously being able to summon amazingly cool Aeons like Ifrit. 3) The scene where Sin suddenly teleports the group from the ice dungeon to the desert dungeon... that was not foreshadowed or even mentioned once by an NPC, they just Deus Ex Machina'd it. 4) Wakka's weapon of choice and his sheer stupidity at blaming the Al Bhed for his brother's death instead of Sin. 5) and lastly, some of the amazingly stupid things that comes out of the characters' mouths, such as Wakka (again) referring to the destruction of the Al Bhed homeland as "Happy Festival Fireworks, ja?" or deciding the group should repent after witnessing the corruption of the Church of Yevon. In fact, Wakka's stupidity seems to be one of the only consistent things in the story.

I could honestly go on, but I think I'll just be ranting at that point.

And I think you both acted childish, instead of just debating like the two of you did later on in the review you immediately started with the insults. And, like a child, Nelo responded childlishly instead of just ignoring you.
comment #11119 Blackheart91 29th Oct 11
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comment #11120 eveil 29th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
The technological level within every single temple.

Is that refferencing the cloister of trials? Oh God, those got SO annoying...

The sheer number of times Yuna is kidnapped despite her obviously being able to summon amazingly cool Aeons like Ifrit.

WHAT sheer number of times? Let's see...I only remember her being kidnapped by the Al Bhed a couple of times and on one of such cases she kicked their asses off-screen. The whole marriage thing with Seymour was deliberate on her part because she wanted to get close enough to him to give him a sending. And afterwards, EVERYONE got imprisoned. You can't single her out.

The scene where Sin suddenly teleports the group from the ice dungeon to the desert dungeon... that was not foreshadowed or even mentioned once by an NPC, they just Deus Ex Machina'd it.

That was strange, I'll give you. I just accept it was the hand of Jecht intervening.

Wakka's weapon of choice and his sheer stupidity at blaming the Al Bhed for his brother's death instead of Sin.

There's nothing wrong with using an unconventional weapon (especially in an FF game) and he does blame Sin for killing his brother too. He also blamed the Al Bhed and machina for it and since both were condemed by his religion, he used that as justification for his irrational bigotry. I thought it was an interesting character flaw for one of the main protagonists to have.

and lastly, some of the amazingly stupid things that comes out of the characters' mouths

I think all stories in any medium have characters say some amazingly stupid things at points. That just seems nitpicky to me.

And, like a child, Nelo responded childlishly instead of just ignoring you.

And, like a child, you're being a hypocrite, as you didn't "just ignore" my comment from that review either and felt the need to comment about it here. If Nelo is to be brought into this, he oughta comment himself; you needn't have brought him up.
comment #11135 ManwiththePlan 29th Oct 11 (edited by: ManwiththePlan)
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