> it's easily the best DC superhero film, even though it still falls short of Marvel
Stopped reading right there. For one, this film ain't better than the Dark Knight, though it's maybe on par with Begins and the first two Superman and Batman movies; I wouldn't know where to place it exactly, though. Definitely the best of the DCEU, if that was the point.
And I could probably count on one hand the marvel movies better than this one (and not all of them are in the MCU, if that was meant with "Marvel"). Let's see: Logan, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers and maybe Spider-Man 2. With everything else, this film is on par or better.
Really, you\'re going to focus entirely on the final opinion and not why they think that? That\'s the exact opposite of creating a constructive debate
...Well, thanks for the laugh.
It looks like the Germans are the bad guys in this movie. To what extent are they the villains, and are they made to look like despicable Nazi types? Ever sine the decision to switch Wonder Woman to WW 1, I was wondering how it would treat a much more morally ambiguous war.
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@phylos Derp, my bad. Meant the best of the shared universe films they've been trying to do. It was late when i wrote this, sorry for that. Edited to reflect that.
@maninahat For the most part the only two Germans that get treated as scumbags are the general guy Ludendorff and Doctor Maru, who for some reason I thought they were saying "Doctor Morrow".
The German soldiers in general are just sorta there, without any real demonization or humanization going on until the very end of the film. Which kinda sucks when Wonder Woman kills a whole shitton of them and never actually learns the reason why WWI even started in the first place.
But only kinda. There are at least nods here and there that the world's a messed up place, like how one of the other main characters is a Native American who tells Diana that his people don't have a home anymore, and it's because of the "Americans". I'm fine with a film that has a bunch of little snippets happening to help shape Wonder Woman's growth rather than one big climactic revelation, it's just I don't really feel Diana has a very good character arc come the third act.
@Steam Derp, my bad. Meant the best of the shared universe films they've been trying to do. It was late when i wrote this, sorry for that. Edited to reflect that.
Yeah, I was probably being too pedantic anyway. No harm, no foul.
I feel like you have misconceptions about this movie, in particular the final battle. Ares was not defeated with \"love\". No, he was defeated with exactly what it looked like, a blast of lightning. The part about love was Diana reflecting that no amount of fighting is ever going to bring permanent peace and only \"love (i.e. understanding, compassion, etc.) can do that. Charile\'s problems are clearly PTSD and his character arc is resolved with Diana saying that he doesn\'t have to be a cold sniper to be a valuable part of the team, his singing and general support is enough. Gal Gadot doesn\'t emote? I assume you missed the scene with the baby, the ice cream, the wall climbing, the battle on the beach etc.
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So let's talk about Wonder Woman
... Well, it's easily the best DCEU superhero film, even though it still falls short of Marvel. But hey, baby steps. Crawl before you walk before you run.
Personally, Gal Godot still just does not work for me as WW. Her emoting isn't that great, her action scenes look weirdly edited with too many slow-mo shots, and the stuff on Paradise Island felt very by the numbers.
But then Chris Pine showed up, and his greatest superpower is doing his damndest to make sure this is a fun, enjoyable film. Once Diana's off with him and experiencing the world at large we finally get a lot of things the DC films have desperately needed: heart, characters with actual character and personality, and some genuine hero-ing. Some of the characters still fall short, like the sniper guy who has some vaguely explained problems and yet never really has a resolution to his character arc, but for what we see of these people though, they carry more spirit and depth than damn near everyone in the last three films combined.
The problem is though that the film just didn't know how to end itself.
Setting the film during World War 1 was a fun idea, and it provides an excellent dichotomy between Trevor's worldiness and Diana's idealism with a war where true villains were few and far between (though still present) and yet atrocities were still aplenty due to the sheer inertia of civilization. Trevor wants to do good but his limits are clear, as are his specific duties, whereas Diana wants to do good everywhere but naively thinks that all conflict can be solved just by finding the designated Big Bad and killing them. There was a lot of potential here to subvert and play with the tropes of a superhero story, possibly more than any other hero film made before it, but unfortunately it gives up on itself. Or maybe it didn't realize just what it had the potential of creating.
Thus we end up getting a very stock and boring final battle where the villain is supposedly killed with the power of LOVE (even though it looked more like Wonder Woman was doing her best Specium Ray impersonation a-la Ultraman) and a film that just sorta... tells itself things are resolved and that they've come full circle even when they don't really feel like they have.
I can't say the film is a must-see, but it also isn't offensively bad or mediocre. I had plenty of laughs and liked some of the action sequences, which is more than I can say about any other DC film. If you want to give it a shot you definitely won't regret watching it, but I don't think it'll really stick with you unless you're a die-hard fan of Wonder Woman.