Reviews Comments: Never tries to be anything but funny
Never tries to be anything but funny
I have strongly mixed feelings about Teen Titans Go!. On the one hand, I can't call it anything but a success, because it does what it was made to do; it's obviously a much more comedy-oriented show than the original, and for all the criticism in the world, I cannot deny that it's very funny on every level. There's wacky humour, dark humour, continuity humour, and overall just consistently well-written dialogue and hilarious animation. It's a comedy, and it's funny. I can't fault that. On the other hand, I would be lying if I didn't say that I thought it was a shame to gather all the original voice actors, get a new timeslot on DC Nation, try a new style of animation, and stick solely to comedy. The original Teen Titans cartoon isn't a Sacred Cow to me, but it had moments that were funny, heartwarming, awesome, or sad. The new cartoon sticks to humour and never ventures into any other category. Ever. Moments listed as heartwarming or awesome on This Very Wiki have no impact on me because the situations are never serious enough to cause any impact. The only other thing that sometimes annoys me is that unavoidably, the topic of most of the jokes is the Titans, who all play exaggerated parody versions of themselves. It seems like a lot of the people who don't like the show were fans of the original as kids, and seeing their childhood heroes portrayed as idiots has really stopped them from enjoying it. It's great that the show is finding new fans, but it's a little sad that they had to remove - and then mock - a lot of the elements that older fans enjoyed in order to do this. All in all, the greatest weakness and greatest strength of this show are the same thing; it never tries to do anything but make the audience laugh, and while it definitely succeeds in doing this, it rules out a lot of possibilities the show had to be entertaining in many more ways. I'll definitely keep watching, but it does sometimes feel like a Teen Titans show made by people who couldn't care less about Teen Titans.
If Go! went in any other direction, what would seperate it from the original show? I was a fan of the original show myself, and I'm perfectly okay with this incarnation. It's actually a little refreshing to have a superhero show that doesn't even bother with the pretenses of being serious like Batman the Brave and the Bold did and just goes straight for the humour. It has the guts to abandon subtlety come out and openly mock the inherent silliness of superheroes, especially when the superheroes are dumb teenagers, and for that, I respect it. And truthfully, the Titans really do feel a lot more like teenagers in Go! than they did in the original show. A lot of times whenever Raven or Robin get the spotlight, I can't help but think "yeah, that was me four years ago" as opposed to their somewhat more mature and responsible incarnations from the original. It's not something I can fault either show for; both versions work for what they're going for.
comment #21150 DeviousRecital 15th Sep 13
Its funny, but the latin american dub of this show is made in Mexico, instead of Venezuela, like the original one was. My reaction is They Changed It, Now It Sucks in a double level. I agree with this review.
comment #21181 Tomodachi 19th Sep 13
Devious Recital: You call this "having the guts" ? Honestly, I think it's much more impressive to do a show like the original Teen Titans that manages to balance humor and serious. Just going fun is just lazyness to me. Yeah, Ew, no. I am pretty sure I wasn't acting like that as a teenager. And even if I was, the Teen Titans aren't exactly REGULAR teens.
comment #21182 Theokal3 19th Sep 13
Sure I do. Because every other superhero show I've ever seen tries to balance humour and serious. It takes skill and restraint to avoid resorting to drama, especially when there's huge potential for it here. And writing comedy's hard. I've tried. Everyone has a different sense of humour. Drama's much easier since most people agree on what's a serious issue. And maybe it was just me, but I know I didn't have to think about important responsibilities or relationships much as a teen. Perhaps that's why GO!'s portrayal of teenagers is more relatable to me. But nonetheless, at this point it's semantics.
comment #21183 DeviousRecital 19th Sep 13
Well, yeah. The point is, superhero is NOT supposed to be pure comedy. That's for superheroes pardodies like Darkwing Duck or The Tick. Actual superheroes shows HAVE to be at least partially serious, or you miss the whole point. Plus I don't think this even is good comedy; as you say, everyone has his sense of humor, and to me, portraying the characters as egoistic, incompetent jerkass isn't funny. I get it was their intention to begin with to make a funny show, but really, they shouldn't have bothered putting so much effort if they were gonna do nothing else. Also, I have tried as well, and I know it's even harder to make a good balancer between drama and comedy. You have to figure out when you are being too wacky or when you are getting too serious. The original Teen Titans was a good example of well-balanced; Western Animation/Ultimate Spider-Man is an exemple where they went too wacky; and Ben 10: Ultimate Alien is an exemple where they didn't balance it well, because they couldn't decide if they wanted to be comical or serious. Really, it's harder than it looks. Well allow me to ask you something: as a teenager, if a demon had shown up to offer to grant you a wish, would you have really asked for having your hands turned into a dog ?—'
comment #21193 Theokal3 20th Sep 13
All one needs to write a superhero story is a costumed crimefighter. People are free to do whatever they want within the bounds of that. If you think superheroes have to be a serious introspective thing, then that's your perspective. And it's a popular one, shared by folks such as Christopher Nolan and the detestable Frank Miller. But that doesn't mean it has to be the only interpretation, which is why things like Deadpool occasionally become popular. There is no "point" that guides superhero stories, and many would argue that the whole concept is inherently ridiculous to begin with. I'll disagree that it's hard to find a balance between drama and comedy because, well, that makes up the bulk of my writing and it's what comes easiest to me. Trying to be all funny all the time is much harder since I can't let something take the tone it naturally would and have to try and write it as funny. But that's just me. The humour of this show in particular, at least for me, comes less from the characters themselves and more from the absurdities they create, though their reactions can be amusing as well. Note that a lot of said absurdities do come from their powers and roles as superheroes, so this show wouldn't be possible if they were anything else. It uses its genre conventions well, at the least. And yeah, probably not unless I was trying to mess with someone's head. The difference between myself and Cyborg, however, is that Cyborg doesn't really have anything left to wish for besides the trivial the way he's written in this show. So yeah, maybe they're not normal teens. But they're teens nonetheless, with all the pettiness that entails.
comment #21194 DeviousRecital 20th Sep 13
- Shrug* That's what people say about Transformers. Yet, good luck to find a single Transformers show that is entirely comedic. All I am saying is, focusing on comedy alone ALWAYS is inferior to finding a good balance between comedy and drama. Unless that's really great humor. And it's not.
comment #21196 Theokal3 20th Sep 13
Likewise, just because you don't enjoy the humour of this series doesn't mean the same goes for everyone else. Obviously, I like this more than you do. Again, people have different tastes, especially when it comes to comedy. And being funny is the true purpose of this show. It's not aiming to be an interesting character examination; it's aiming to be funny. That's why Cyborg didn't wish for his humanity back: this Cyborg actually likes being a cyborg. Giving him obligatory angst over not being human would not only completely defeat the purpose of this show, it would make the show indistinguishable from the previous show. This show does its own thing instead of being like most other superhero. shows, and I don't see what's wrong with that. Shouldn't it be a good thing to adapt the superhero concept into other genres it doesn't normally fall into to show that it can work there without the camp stupidity that has stigmatized the genre ever since stuff like the Super Friends or the 60s Spider-Man show were on air? I mean, I don't know what you wanted or expected from this show, but if it was a retread of what we already have a solid 65 episodes of, may I ask why?
comment #21197 DeviousRecital 20th Sep 13
I get it was their intention to begin with to make a funny show, but really, they shouldn't have bothered putting so much effort if they were gonna do nothing else.
That's for superheroes pardodies like Darkwing Duck or The Tick.And this show isn't a parody?
Well allow me to ask you something: as a teenager, if a demon had shown up to offer to grant you a wish, would you have really asked for having your hands turned into a dog ?Maybe, look at all the crap people with money (specially if they go it all of the sudden) buy. So much effort? they're shorts, about 10 minutes each counting intro and ending, and have you seen the new art style. As Devious Recital said, maybe they had to go after a younger demographic or they wanted to try something different, possibly due to the success of the brave and the bold (and even that show is rather serious), there's a point where people want something different, after all if they wanted yet another more serious superhero show they could had just continued Young Justice which brought in views despite it's Fox level showings. There are a lot of hero shows, which is probably why when this kinds of more comedic shows show up they're usually well received.
The point is, superhero is NOT supposed to be pure comedy.
Just because it's easy for you doesn't mean it's easy for everybody.
All I am saying is, focusing on comedy alone ALWAYS is inferior to finding a good balance between comedy and drama. Unless that's really great humor. And it's not.It's funny how devious recital specified that it was his opinion, that you complained about with the just because it's one way for you is not the same for everybody, then topped it all off by making the Ad Hoc about focusing on drama alone "always" being inferior, or how a superhero story "cannot" be a certain way.
Yeah, he definitely has nothing. I mean, it's not like he could have WISHED FOR HIS HUMANITY BACK!Then he wouldn't be a hero anymore, Cyborg complains about being part machine now and then but he's still more content with his current life. There were both an episode in the original series about Cyborg missing his humanity (the fight with Atlas)and another one about starting to neglect it (the one about Billy numerous). He has come to the result of preferring to be the mix of both worlds that he is. While done in a very comedic fashion, it does make sense that the things Cyborg wants are stupid. He has no desire for wealth (otherwise he would sell his technology) or power (he could do something close to what Ultron did if he wanted like he did on a smaller scale when he became part of the titan's tower), he has no big desire that he already is not realizing or has realized, so all that's left is stupid things.
comment #21198 marcellx 20th Sep 13
Shouldn't it be a good thing to adapt the superhero concept into other genres it doesn't normally fall into to show that it can work thereIronically, that's what the original Teen Titans did with it's Japanese style comedy which set it apart from the rest.
comment #21199 marcellx 20th Sep 13
All I am saying is that going from a balance between humor and serious to comedy alone is a bit of a degradation to me. If you like it, fine. But to me, it's like the show lost his depht. And I find it funnier when you DON'T have to derail the characters to make them funny.
comment #21201 Theokal3 20th Sep 13
Well, yeah, of course it lost its depth. It's a show for kids with Negative Continuity. This certainly would be a problem if the show had a loftier premise than what it has (basically, it's kid-friendly Seinfeld with superheroes as it is now). And I wouldn't say they're derailing characters so much as presenting them in a different context. I still recognize their personalities (though yes, they are exaggerated for comedy's sake), it's just the way the world works and the events that happen are different. DC does this a lot, in case the amount of adaptations of Batman didn't tip you off. But no matter the tone of each individual adaptation, I can still accept that I'm watching Batman because whichever one I'm watching invariably shares a lot of common elements with every other Batman I've seen even if I can't say the same for the world around him. It's the same with this show.
comment #21204 DeviousRecital 20th Sep 13
Meh. I somehow have a hard time portraying Robin as being the weakest because he has no super-powers (which by the way is one of the most generic concept for an episode that I know) or Raven liking a My Little Poney rip-off while following their usual personnalities.
comment #21205 Theokal3 20th Sep 13
Superhero shows can't be comedic? I bet you'd just love The Super Hero Squad Show then. Nothing but angst and action there.
comment #21215 MrMallard 20th Sep 13
I think you misunderstood me: They CAN be comedic, just not NOTHING but comedic. Also, I know The Super Hero Squad Show, thank you very much. They are the reason why I think comedy-only superheroes cannot work. It made me chuckle a bit for a while then I quickly lost interest in it.
comment #21218 Theokal3 21st Sep 13
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