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05:44:45 PM Nov 2nd 2015
edited by Dreammaster1
edited by Dreammaster1
Am I the only one who thinks this:
-Americans Hate Tingle: The producers of this film found themselves facing unexpected criticism from the Sikh community that was really looking forward to the film's villain, Khan Noonien Singh, played by a Sikh actor. Of course, the producers wanted to avoid the Unfortunate Implication of non-white character being a villain, but the Sikh noted that the character is such a classic Magnificent Bastard and Tragic Villain who physically and mentally outclasses any white man that it was a disappointment he was played by a British actor.
Needs a source? Not so much because I don't believe there was backlash, but merely because I haven't seen a lot of it attributed to actual Sikhs and the entry doesn't list any outside of just naming the incredibly large religious group. Doing some quick research myself and a look at the 'Reception' section on Wikipedia didn't turn up any critics claiming to be Sikh, though there were some who have ties to the Asian continent (for eg. Garret Wang.).
I figured that if it was under 'Americans hate Tingle' we might want to show that it's different to just 'Broken Base.' I'm not suggesting that it be deleted, just edited if such a source exists.
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12:32:11 AM Sep 7th 2015
Changed Broken Base part regarding Khan's Race Lift. Blatantly one sided and insulting.
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08:10:38 PM Oct 12th 2013
I feel like this example is Square Peg, Round Trope:
- Values Dissonance: Khan's Race Lift was because of this. Had Khan been cast with an Indian or Middle-Eastern actor, "John Harrison's" overtly terrorist actions may have led to further Unfortunate Implications with the character.
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06:22:48 PM Sep 14th 2013
edited by 70.88.226.169
edited by 70.88.226.169
I cut this one.
- Alternative Character Interpretation: In addition to the usual Ho Yay (see below) shipping between Kirk and Spock we see Kirk develop an attraction to Carol Marcus when not spending his nights with attractive alien twins. Kirk's penchant for sleeping with just about anyone (or anything) that doesn't run away from him might as well cast him as Depraved Bisexual.
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06:23:29 AM Jul 18th 2013
edited by 216.99.32.42
edited by 216.99.32.42
Wait, people put Admiral Pike in Ron the Death Eater? How the hell does that even work?
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07:28:04 PM Jun 6th 2013
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edited by 216.99.32.44
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who saw the similarities to the DS9 two-parter.
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06:04:13 PM May 23rd 2013
Was Admiral Marcus submitted to the Complete Monster thread? Also, I'd contest his entry on the basis that he does seem to care about his daughter.
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02:38:41 PM May 9th 2013
edited by 216.99.32.42
edited by 216.99.32.42
- Evil Is Sexy: Subverted. John Harrison as played by Benedict Cumberbatch, largely considered to be unattractive outside of particular, minute demographics.
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- Evil Is Sexy: The evil John Harrison, with his slicked back hair and Badass Longcoat, was found to be quite sexy by some of the movie's fans.
02:48:45 PM May 9th 2013
Even if this counted as Evil Is Sexy, this is Not a Subversion. Subverting a trope is a deliberate attempt to invoke it so they can pull the rug out from under you.
04:08:28 PM May 9th 2013
Yeah, the creators only really play with Kirk's sex appeal in these two films.
12:45:13 PM May 25th 2013
Harrison's clothing on the Enterprise (once his Badass Longcoat was removed) seemed to be quite form-fitting. Benedict Cumberbatch also gained a reasonable amount of muscle for the film, although arguably that is merely to make Harrison appear strong rather than sexy. However, there is also a deleted scene in which Harrison takes a shower
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