Western Animation Steven Universe Discussion

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Rognik
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04:59:40 AM Jul 13th 2015
  • Does This Remind You of Anything?: Garnet's reaction on seeing Peridot's experimental fusions is depressingly similar to how The Hedonist would react the first time anyone proved the concept of rape. Seeing such a violence almost destroyed her own definition of fusion as an experience to the point of defusion.

Is this really true? I'm not sure it really applies to Garnet, and I'm not sure you could call the forced fusion of the Gem fragments rape either. The forced fusion appears to be a Frankenstein's monster level of combination, and while Garnet is a happily fused pairing (a sort of symbolic marriage), I don't think it's the same as having sex. Not to mention that there are many ways to interpret that scene and Garnet's reaction to seeing it, not just a specific inference.
emeriin
07:07:57 AM Jul 13th 2015
There are a lot of interpretations, but with Garnet's "they weren't asked permission", I can see why rape might be on people's minds.
Ironthread
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09:28:08 AM Jun 21st 2015
I'm not really certain if Never Say "Die" really applies; nobody has actually died yet, unless you count the monsters, and even they don't technically get killed. The primary example in the page is Rose Quartz, who doesn't really die either. Lastly, as of "Sworn to the Sword," Pearl has said "die," during the song "Do it for Him/Her":
Pearl: [singing] when you live for someone, you're prepared to die.
I feel this should be deleted, but I want more input on the topic, especially because the article for Never Say "Die" is rather difficult to follow when it comes to classifying when it does and does not apply.
Zeanobia
02:04:35 PM Jul 13th 2015
Does this count as an example?
PhysicalStamina
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04:49:16 AM Jun 7th 2015
"Steven Universe is an American Shoujo series."

I'm not sure I follow. Anyone care to explain how?
Rognik
05:42:01 PM Jul 13th 2015
I'm not sure if I would call it a shoujo series or not. Shoujo series feature a bunch of female characters. They tend to be more about relationships between characters, which is frequently depicted in this show. However, a series like Sailor Moon is a magical girl series, which is what this show most closely resembles. Although there is no transformation sequence, the Gems are magical beings and often have a Monster of the Week which invoke an emotional response in some way. So while I might not call it an American Shoujo, I guess you could call it an Americal Magical Girl series.
TheTropper
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07:26:38 AM Apr 2nd 2015
Now that "Attack The Light" is out, will it soon have it's own page?
SeptimusHeap
08:08:32 AM Apr 2nd 2015
On VideoGame.Attack The Light? If someone starts working on it, sure.
truncatedchronologis
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01:53:44 PM Mar 20th 2015
I think that Idiot Ball should be added to the list of tropes, considering how the crystal Gems (esp Garnet) often don't notice very obvious solutions to problems so that Steven can be the one to save the day.
theharpyeagle
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01:07:05 PM Mar 16th 2015
edited by theharpyeagle
I think "Full Disclosure" has a subverted example of Break His Heart to Save Him, but I'm not sure if it follows that or It's Not You, It's My Enemies better. Maybe both?

Also, I'm pretty sure Island Adventure has either a subversion or Not a Subversion of No Cartoon Fish, but I can't decide what it would fall under.
GigaGuess
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09:09:07 PM Oct 1st 2014
Freudian Trio entry. I kinda think Garnet and Pearl should be swapped. While Garnet is pretty stoic, she's frequently shown to be not so above it all. And I mean, compare Opal and Sugilite, both fusions involving the far and away clear Id. Opal is very fragile in the fusion, underlining the stark contrast between the two, whereas Sugilite almost consumed Amethyst and Garnet, that's how strong the union between the two is. Look at the recommended gem training between the three are, as well. Pearl advocating long hours training and honing his skills, whereas Amethyst takes a feel, don't think approach. Garnet walks the middle ground between the two, saying that some will just need to come naturally, but Steven will need to hone his skills, too.
TheTropper
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05:07:47 PM Sep 16th 2014
edited by 64.121.53.75
New Updated Steven Universe Poster! I recommend replacing the page image with the updated one! http://33.media.tumblr.com/ 96a37d53504acc4cf6c63de7a0ba6679/tumblr_nbosqainbp1qliqrqo1_1280.jpg (Note that I added a space after .com/)
SeptimusHeap
12:51:35 AM Sep 17th 2014
You'll have to link to the image before we can even discuss a change.
TheTropper
04:10:54 AM Sep 17th 2014
I really don't know how to do that but I will try.

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SeptimusHeap
05:12:44 AM Sep 17th 2014
TheTropper
11:57:59 AM Sep 17th 2014
Thanks, so how do I upload and change the page image on a ipad?
Gatordragon24
09:41:18 PM Sep 17th 2014
No need to worry, I changed the page image for you.
Gatordragon24
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12:01:36 AM Jul 17th 2014
edited by 132.170.34.245
There's this troper named Awesome Waffles who is vandalizing the Steven Universe pages by removing any example with Connie in it because apparently he doesn't like her for some reason. He even deleted her entire folder in the Character page. I reverted most of the changes but I fear he may strike again.
SeptimusHeap
12:08:19 AM Jul 17th 2014
Uh, yeah, reporting them.
Gatordragon24
12:11:21 AM Jul 17th 2014
I, uh, didn't know I could do that...
greatpikminfan
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12:46:38 PM Apr 24th 2014
Under Shout-Out:

  • Speaking of Utena, Amethyst's inflated form after eating a cloud and the way she has to be carried around by Garnet like a balloon is similar to this shot of Utena and Chu-Chu.

I know nothing about Utena but this sounds like it's incredibly reaching. Unless that balloon in the image is also a transformed person. Heck, I'm suspicious about the other two "references," even that one that provides a gif comparason to a lesser extent. (I feel like I've seen the general fighting style in a lot of other works too.) Should I cut at least this or is there some way to tell that this isn't just a coincidence?

Normally I wouldn't really care but I have read about some reaching Shout-Outs before. Like Death Note as a whole being a Code Geass reference/parallel. Or something about either a city in Blaz Blue being a reference to one in Pokemon Black and White or visa-versa.
greatpikminfan
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11:52:39 PM Mar 10th 2014
edited by 68.6.255.68
So the Wikia-wiki kind of added a ton of episodes to its episode list, some time around "Giant Woman." The problem is, I can't find any source of any of the ones that haven't aired yet becides "Onion Trade," and their listings of an episode with "Birthdays" in the title and one with "Lars and the Cool Kids" seemed accurate (just that they went under different, older names). And the person who added these new episodes to the wiki seemed to be an admin of it, too, so I don't think it was any vandalism or someone tossing in their fan fiction. My question is, where did this come from, and is it anything reliable enough to be mentioned at in this wiki? In case any upcoming episodes involve tropes in their premise?
Naivintage
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05:42:54 PM Feb 23rd 2014
The Cat Lady:

Did anyone notice how many cat-related things appear in the show?
supernintendo128
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09:56:29 PM Feb 12th 2014
In Serious Steven, when the gems land in a field of strawberries, I think of the song Strawberry Fields Forever. Should that count as a shout out?
SeptimusHeap
01:32:28 AM Feb 13th 2014
Way too speculative, in my mind.
mondenkindqueen
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12:44:45 PM Feb 11th 2014
My name is mondenkindqueen and I added a part to the WMG page about the lion steven has. I was new at the time and didn't know I was supposed to come here first and got a natter alert. So what do you guys think? Should I take it down or what?
Sherlockdetective99
05:36:43 PM Feb 20th 2014
Check out the programme note for WMG and the page for natter. If your entry doesn't match those, then there's no need to take it down.
DastardlyDemolition
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04:54:56 PM Nov 29th 2013
From the "Frybo" episode, should we add Body Horror, Eye Scream and Combat Tentacles? The Frybo costume get all three of those; the gross veins all over it's body, getting hit in the eye by Pearl's staff, and and the french fries grabbing and pulling people around.
tingitania
11:28:22 AM Dec 23rd 2013
Yeah, sure, go for it!
captainpat
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02:29:23 PM Oct 5th 2013
  • Big Beautiful Woman: Amethyst is short and chubby, but is considered as beautiful as the other Gems.

Leaving this example here so someone can explain who considers this character attractive. If it's just the audience then it's not Big Beautiful Woman.

Gatordragon24
02:51:44 PM Oct 5th 2013
One guy in the pilot episode said that Steven lives with a bunch of hot girls. Is that enough for the example?
captainpat
04:05:49 PM Oct 5th 2013
Honestly, I would wait until the show starts and there's more cases about her beauty specifically but if that's what you put down I'm kinda ok with it.
kyun
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09:00:29 AM Jul 17th 2013
The design changed! >:
DastardlyDemolition
04:52:11 PM Nov 29th 2013
I think it looks pretty good
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