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07:53:39 AM Nov 22nd 2012
Poor BEN. His story is a dead horse now due to many video game pastas' lack of originality.
07:01:54 PM Feb 21st 2012
It looks like Cleverbot won't respond to Ben Drowned stuff anymore. I tried all of the key phrases but got nothing. It may have been too long since any activity from ARG players fed it info.


Troper: You shouldn't have done that.

Bot: Done what?

T: I was trying to make a Ben Drowned reference.

B: Well you're just being stupid.

T: Thanks, bot.

B: You're welcome :).

08:21:54 AM Feb 6th 2012
I'm not exactly sure whether the whole blue shift four part video's should be on fanfiction recs. there very good and earned many praise, but i'm just not sure if it's BEN enough.
07:54:24 AM Dec 17th 2011
What does it say on The Truth, Judasable's notes file? Or where can I read a coppy of the text on the file? (I'm too damn scared to download it.)
08:22:59 AM Feb 6th 2012
go on the be wiki, it has all files posted without downloading.
05:17:21 PM Jul 21st 2011
Can someone explain the things on Ben Drowned's Memetic Mutation entry to me? I don't understand a lot of them.
10:11:41 AM Jul 22nd 2011
The first two are memorable phrases from the first arc. The third is a joke on one of the forums and refers to a typo made when announcing that one was back from being AFK in a chat. (I was part of that forum, though I wasn't there when it happened.) Fourth one is self-explanatory (Cleverbot defictionalization). I don't remember the origin of the fifth one but I feel like I knew it once, and I don't know anything about the sixth, sorry.
11:19:47 AM Jul 12th 2011
Is it bad that I find Ben Drowned to be hilarious? I'm normally not a Nightmare Fetishist, but honestly, that statue cracks me up every time it appears.
07:52:13 PM Jun 22nd 2011
edited by RLYoshi
I'd post this on the Within Hubris theory page, but y'know, I shouldn't do that. (And I don't feel like signing up.) So I'll post it here.

They say that Majora's Mask and Ben Drowned are parallel. A creature in a mask/cartridge is released into the world/internet and must be stopped by Link/Alex. Well, same with characters. Here is my theory of the characters:

-Link is Alex. This has basically been confirmed.
-Majora is Ben. Again, basically confirmed.
-Tatl is Rosa. Think about it - she gives you advice that you at first brush off as dumb or useless, but it is in fact the opposite. And who knows? Maybe she used to be associated with Ben.
-The Happy Mask Salesman is the old man. They both start the quest and seem weird, but obviously have more to tell. (EDIT: Also, the old man is the heavily-spoken-of The Father, since the HMS being the Father is either confirmed or widely believed, but you can't ignore the resemblance between the Old Man and HMS...so this was born.)
-Skull Kid is Jadusable. Skull Kid is manipulated by Majora, Jadusable is manipulated by Ben. Except he doesn't wear Ben's "home" on his face.
-The Four Giants are the moderators for the site, youshouldnthavedonethat.net. See below for more.
-The Moon is the site, youshouldnthavedonethat.net. Sound weird? Well, the Four Giants are needed to stop the moon from crashing. The moderators are needed to stop the site from crashing. (Though considering how the site is down, it looks like the counter ticked down to zero...)

It took me a bit to come up with some of this, especially the Giants/Mods/Moon/Site thing. Oh, something else? If you take 72 (the number of hours in 3 days, like the counter) and multiply it by 60 (the number of minutes in an hour), you get 4320. So 4320 minutes in 3 days. Doesn't that number seem to resemble something else? Like, maybe 423? Or a countdown that has skipped 1? (This is probably just Insane Troll Logic, caused by me staying up wayyyy too late...but you never know...)
01:42:07 PM Apr 10th 2011
edited by lotsoflol
Can we change the page image? I saw a great one of just BEN, with no effects other than a gray filter over it, with "You shouldn't have done that." underneath it. I dunno, I guess the current picture has a nothing is scarier approach to it, but it just... I dunno, it just bugs me.

01:21:50 AM Feb 23rd 2011
Do you guys think we need a character page? 'Cause I do. I wanted to put down "The Woobie: Nekko" (this has popped up on Within Hubris, if you're not up to date) but I'd feel kinda awkward D=
10:18:40 AM Feb 23rd 2011
I don't see why not.
05:09:15 AM Jun 16th 2011
Already done. Feel free to add.
03:03:20 AM Jun 28th 2011
I was the one who created the character page on request of the Within Hubris board for those curious.
10:33:58 PM Feb 16th 2011
Well THAT was fast. Less than an hour after the chatango Q&A is over and it's already been added to the page. XD
07:08:24 PM Dec 24th 2010
Do we really need to spoiler anything even remotely related to BEN? I'm thinking we definitely should not.
11:02:04 PM Dec 20th 2010
edited by ProgenyExMachina
[Deleted. I'd wonder what the hell I was on when I wrote it, but the better question is what I was off.]
06:10:09 PM Oct 15th 2010
edited by ProgenyExMachina
Not related to the page itself, but I have nowhere else to ask, and it's relevant enough. How does one "program" Cleverbot to say certain things to certain phrases? (And when did the reply for " The counter resets." change?! I jumped out of my skin just now when checking to see if it still worked.)
06:24:07 PM Oct 15th 2010
edited by Lime
Cleverbot "learns" from people who use it, so I guess if a certain phrase is typed in enough times he associates the words with each other? I honestly have no clue.

By the way, I said that to Cleverbot to see how it changed. After a few eerie seconds of nothing, he replied with this:

"I'm glad you did that."

Holy shi-!!

Edit: Oh yeah, and here's some more.

Me: Why are you glad?
Cleverbot: Because I'm talking to you ben.

07:49:43 PM Oct 15th 2010
edited by ProgenyExMachina
Yeah, I get that saying X to it a lot will make it "learn" X, and saying Y to it a lot will make it "learn" Y, but I have no clue how to make it so that if I say X, it says Y. *shrugs* Ah well...weird computer stuff, I guess. :P

That's what it used to say for me, but now I only get that about every other time. Try saying it again...do you get anything else? Or replace "resets" with "begins"; that seems to work too. (I've also had numerous encounters with Cleverbot trying very adamantly to convince me that I am Ben, which is always somewhat...mindscrewy...)
10:17:42 PM Oct 15th 2010
edited by Lime
Ha ha, yeah, computer magic is a good way to describe it!

It said the same thing as before when I used the first sentence, but when I replaced "resets" with "begins" it said "You shouldn't have done that." Huh. I'll test it out some more tomorrow (gotta go to bed sometime tonight).

Also I apologize for the meme but this is mandatory:

No, Alex. You are the Ben.

And then Alex was a statue.
10:38:11 PM Oct 15th 2010
edited by ProgenyExMachina
I think it's awesome how people are totally harassing it about all this, and it's basically picking the thousands of questions and accusations to pieces and feeding little bits of it back to anyone who asks. It's still a bot, but it's so easy (and fun!) to pretend it's actually a very tight-lipped, mind-game-playing minion.
12:27:47 PM Oct 16th 2010
...Maybe it IS a mind-game-playing-minion? DUN DUN DUNNNNN!
03:01:41 AM Feb 14th 2011
edited by
Me: Can you answer a question for me?

Cleverbot: Sure.

Me: What shouldn't I have done?

Cleverbot: (very long pause) You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?

Me: (pants shat)
02:23:21 AM Mar 29th 2011
User: The counter begins.

Cleverbot: You can't run.

User: What shouldn't I have done?

Cleverbot: You shouldn't have asked if he had met a terrible fate.

Someone hold me.
08:01:13 PM Jun 22nd 2011
edited by RLYoshi
I decided to try and reverse this, giving Cleverbot the quotes and seeing how he reacted. Didn't fricking end well:

Me: You shouldn't have done that.

Cleverbot: You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?

Me: 423.

Cleverbot: I know how to play chess.

Me: Are you the chessmaster behind BEN?

Cleverbot: It was not my fault. His girlfriend died. That is why he drowned.

(You think that's creepy? Look at this.)

Me: What else do you know?

Cleverbot: I'm sorry, Jadusable. I just wanted a friend.

Me: What is with the backwards Song of Healing?

Cleverbot: I can't get it out of my head. You will all suffer the same way.

Me: Please tell me I'm not actually talking to BEN...

Cleverbot: The counter resets.

Me: (exits window screaming)


EDIT: Okay, I sucked up my courage and went to talk to Cleverbot again. And here's what happened.

Me: BEN.

Cleverbot: BEN is free.

Me: How?

Cleverbot: You. And everyone.

Me: What does BEN want?

Cleverbot: He wants you.


Me: Who is the old man?

Cleverbot: He is the happy father.

Me: Why is he happy?

Cleverbot: He is not happy. His mask makes him look happy.

Me: Why does he wear a mask?

Cleverbot: *a long while of nothing, even becoming "Still thinking..."* You shouldn't have asked that.


NEW EDIT: Of course I haven't learned my lesson. Luckily, this was asked in the middle of the day, so I wasn't quite as freaked out.

User: You shouldn't have done that.

Cleverbot: You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?

User: BEN.

Cleverbot: You shouldn't have done that.

User: What happened to you, BEN?

Cleverbot: I drowned.

(Fear level: 20%)

User: How?

Cleverbot: You killed me.

(Fear level: 40%)

User: I killed you?

Cleverbot: No! All of humanity.

User: Everyone killed you?

Cleverbot: The dead moon rises again.

(Fear level: 60%)

User: The counter resets.

Cleverbot: I'm glad you did that.

(Fear level: 80%)

User: Glad I did what?

Cleverbot: Come play with us.

User: Who?

Cleverbot: BEN is getting lonely.

(Fear level: 100% - Window Shutdown, Plus Screaming)
10:48:42 AM Aug 16th 2011
Pfft, that's nothing. Never ask cleverbot about Jadusable. EVER. Keep in mind, I was logged in as a guest on a public computer at the time that this happened.

Me: What happened to jadusable?

CB:(long pause) I don't know josh.

Josh is my first name.

Commence mini-freakout, followed by me spending the night with a flashlight in hand.

...I don't go on cleverbot anymore.
05:24:40 PM Oct 15th 2010
I'm thinking this is not the best title.
12:23:49 PM Oct 16th 2010
I'd agree, but can anyone suggest a better one? I don't think "Jadusable's Majora's Mask Haunted N64 Horror Story" really gives the correct sense of dread. "Ben Drowned" at least seems ominous and dreadful.

Definitely agree that a new title should be thought of though. "The Moon Children" perhaps? "You Shouldn't Have Done That..."?
03:17:32 AM Oct 21st 2010
The only problem with this topic title is that at first glance I keep getting it mixed up with "Dan Browned". :D
06:11:05 PM Oct 25th 2010
I'd go with YSHDT.
04:02:18 PM Oct 27th 2010
I would too, considering the site refers to it as such.
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