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Zuxtron BerserkButton: misusing NightmareFuel (On A Trope Odyssey)
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May 25th 2017 at 3:51:51 PM •••

"Dota 2 is widely known for its extremely punishing gameplay that is not fit for newbies."

In my opinion, this sentence sounds pretty complain-y. Dota 2 is certainly the most challenging game in its genre, but there must be a way to express this that's less negative than "extremely punishing" and "not fit for newbies".

Are there any objections to me replacing that sentence with the following?

"Dota 2 is known for its deep, complex, and challenging gameplay on both the mechanical and strategic levels."

Awesomesauce210 Since: Apr, 2015
Dec 22nd 2016 at 4:54:20 PM •••

Would it make sense to give Dota 2 a subpage detailing tropes found in the online comics, much like what Team Fortress 2 has?

Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 25th 2016 at 7:40:14 AM •••

I wish to divide the Moments of Funny page into three separate folders or more, since it's looking quite messy. So far I got In-Game, Meta and E-sports.

BossKey Since: May, 2015
Oct 9th 2016 at 10:40:42 AM •••

I feel like some of the entries are getting a bit too much into "complaining about the game" rather than "describing tropes" ("Suffers Newbies Poorly" comes to mind, as does a bit of "Artificial Stupidity"). I'm thinking of going in and doing a bit of tone repair, but I feel like I need another opinion first.

ChrisX ..... Since: Jan, 2001
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Jun 12th 2016 at 8:59:23 PM •••

Can we just get rid of this whole "ARTS" stuff and just replace it with MOBA? I felt like anyone insisting to use ARTS is just hardcore Dota players who were considerably salty on how League terms things out. We should be more open-hearted and not indulging in this whole fandom war and just go ahead and use the more catch-term: MOBA, instead of being an elitist prick and use 'ARTS'. What do you think?

ChrisX ..... Since: Jan, 2001
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Dec 16th 2015 at 5:49:19 AM •••

Can anyone direct to me on why the Dota 2 character pages are now merged to just the stats, not side + stats?

Piwah Since: Feb, 2014
Sep 10th 2015 at 11:02:14 AM •••

Looking at the character page, I feel like the pre-trope descriptions are somewhat lacking. I feel that instead of copy pasting their lore, Heroes should get proper descriptions based on their gameplay and a bit of story, written with that TV Tropes flair, similarly to League Of Legends. Would anyone else be up for this?

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Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
Sep 12th 2015 at 9:45:35 AM •••

The new client has short descriptions for each hero's gameplay in the "About" tab. We could use that. No need to get rid of the lore.

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Stonetribe Since: Mar, 2015
Mar 18th 2015 at 11:48:49 AM •••

So lately, I've been wondering if Broodmother might qualify for some degree of Anti-Villain. It's true that she portrays herself as villainous in some of her lines, and the descriptions in her The Brood Queen and Steelweb of Pytheos item sets seem to imply that she doesn't have the highest morals. However, her back story states that she has been perfectly content to remain underground and raise her young for at least a millennia. (Speaking of perhaps Really 700 Years Old should be added) And even when Ptholopthales constructed his lodestone ziggurat thingy and started attracting adventurers, (This location being chosen with the intend of using her spider young to drive them off by the way) Broodmother's first action was to attempt to negotiate a compromise, only resorting to violence when he refused to listen. So I think it would be safe to argue that all Broodmother wants is for her and her young to be left alone and that any evil acts she commits is done with the intent of keeping her young safe.

Sorry if this topic is super flawed by the way, this is my first time attempting to be involved in editing on TV Tropes.

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:55:23 AM •••

Several Skill Gate Character entries are... not accurate. I am going to go to the character pages and remove a few.

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
Mar 3rd 2015 at 11:00:28 AM •••

Removed the entries for Sniper, Drow Ranger, and Zeus. The entry for Abaddon probably needs significant trimming if not removal, but I don't feel qualified to do that at the moment.

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mariovsonic999 LoL Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012
LoL Dating Sim is a real thing.
Jan 15th 2014 at 9:28:09 AM •••

I wonder if we should add Big "NO!"! because it is shouted if the hero dies or the hero loses the battle.

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xtreme Since: Nov, 2011
Mar 21st 2013 at 4:19:09 PM •••

Umm what the hell happened to the description? I seem to distinctly remember an updated description before, but it has since been changed to what appears to be an older, pre-release one. All the tropes seem to be intact. Did I just hallucinate that other description?

Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K)
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Feb 4th 2013 at 3:51:22 PM •••

Regarding this entry:

  • Double Standard: DotA 2 has a "pause" feature in case someone has to go away from the computer for one reason or another. The existing Double Standard is that whenever the missing person is on their team, they wait...but whenever the missing person is on your team, they'll force-unpause the game.
    • Now averted thanks to the Diretide shop bug, of which the only way to fix it was to quit out of the game. Most players experienced it and had to reconnect to game, so people are now much more patient in such situations.

While this is a very weak example of a Double Standard, polutropon, your edit reason for removing it doesn't make sense...there's no apparent English issue here. Now, let's talk about the bigger issue - what's happening in the history looks like the makings of an Edit War. This should've been brought to the discussion page to hash out before it got to the point that someone had to holler it.

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UltraLad Since: Apr, 2012
Feb 5th 2013 at 4:29:55 PM •••

Alright then. The only other problems I see are the example indentation and perhaps the word aversion, since it's likely that not everyone will be patient despite the bug. What if the example was rewritten like so-

  • Double Standard: DotA 2 has a pause feature in case someone has to go away from the computer for one reason or another. The existing Double Standard is that whenever the missing person is on their team, they wait- but whenever the missing person is on your team, they'll force-unpause the game. This has lessened with the onset of the Diretide shop bug, a screen-filling problem whose only fix was to quit out of the game. Most players experienced it and had to reconnect to game, so they are now much more patient in such situations.

How does that look?

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