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06:15:33 PM Jan 1st 2013
Someone reverted the following edit I made, with the following reason: Even if you don't agree with him politically, it's a stretch for most people to claim this man is "stupid".

I assumed it was clear that it was in-universe on the part of the Cracked article, and that there was no implication that Mr. O'Reilly was "stupid"—the link and the trope both make it clear that the "stupidity" is just an act, and Obfuscating Insanity seemed a little to far from what the Cracked writers were getting at.

Not every edit has a politically charged motive. I thought that it's nature as funny trivia was both obvious and well in-line with the rest of the site, but I suppose that was too much to ask for on a page so entrenched in politics.

If we're so deathly afraid of making the man look bad, then by all means leave the trope off the page—I really don't care enough to start an edit war over it.
08:31:43 PM Jan 1st 2013
Agreed. It's pretty clear the guy who deleted it has no idea what the trope means, and just deleted it because he saw "stupidity."

Obfuscating Stupidity explicitly isn't calling him stupid, and doesn't even necessarily mean that the facade he presents is stupid, just that he intentionally holds some of his intelligence. Now, I wouldn't necessarily think that this is a trope that normally should be put on a real-life person, but given the link, I think it's good here. In other words, if your edit was just "Some people believe he is playing this trope" it would be one thing, but the article makes it more relevant and come across as not politically charged.
12:28:13 AM Jan 2nd 2013
Thank you.
11:01:51 AM Jan 17th 2013
edited by troacctid
Obfuscating Stupidity is a sideways way of calling him stupid when it's used speculatively like that—it's saying "He's so stupid, he can't possibly be for real."

It also isn't an in-universe example here because it doesn't appear on The O'Reilly Factor at all. It's an in-universe example for Cracked; it belongs over on that page, not this one. With that in mind, I'm going to pull it off this page, if nobody objects.
11:22:12 AM Jan 28th 2013
Fair enough: I put it on the Cracked page
04:46:56 PM Oct 25th 2011
We need to find some way to restore the old article so it can be back in the politicians category.
09:52:44 AM Oct 23rd 2011
Everything that has been added on the pages connected to this one have been blanked. We need to restore the ones we can.
03:08:53 PM Oct 23rd 2011
edited by doomsday524
Although this page is in several indexes, the indexes don't show up on this page anymore.
08:30:00 AM Oct 21st 2011
He is seen as Fox News's underboss, so having him as both The Lancer and The Dragon would probably be appropriate.
01:58:59 AM Aug 5th 2011
Jesus Christ. Why is it Beck has an extensive discussion page with back-and-forths between haters and fans but not O'Reilly?
09:34:03 AM Jul 9th 2010
Removed: "[...]he now has a serious case for being the Only Sane Man at Fox News; even Jon Stewart has applauded O'Reilly for calling out some of the really crazy, out-of-this-world crap that's been coming out of Republicans' mouths lately, even as his colleagues on Fox & Friends—to say nothing of Glenn Beck—have started spouting it themselves. For instance, him to Michelle Bachmann on the subject of BP."

This really isn't the place. . .
01:18:06 PM Jul 9th 2010
I don't object to removing that. We have to be very cautious with political subjects to prevent edit wars or the page will wind up locked or cut.
08:27:52 AM Oct 21st 2011
It's pretty amazing how that stood there for this long.
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