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Quanyails
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05:10:04 PM Dec 10th 2012
Seeing as each season has individual character pages, would anyone take the daunting challenge of separating the main page by season?
Quanyails
06:22:25 PM Apr 21st 2013
Aaand I did it myself.
almightyblue
06:42:02 PM Apr 21st 2013
While I have no particular issue with this, you are creating separate pages for each season when character pages already exist, and leaving them separate. Both are not needed, and should probably be combined in some way.
Quanyails
06:45:23 PM Apr 21st 2013
Not all of the tropes fit onto character pages, though I have kept the pages (Series and Characters) linked by title.
almightyblue
07:02:24 PM Apr 21st 2013
The issue is, you created a bunch of pages that are unnecessary considering that they contain so few examples. If you don't want to add them to the character pages, you should probably just make a "season specific" folder instead of creating pages that make the page more cumbersome to navigate than it was already.

Second, you took an axe to the page when it needed more of a scalpel. Examples such as In-Series Nickname do apply to the series as a whole, even if all the examples are from different seasons. Plus, all the specific nicknames are already listed under the Character Pages.
Quanyails
07:16:06 PM Apr 21st 2013
Mmm? The reason I made the pages was because the main page was quite long—not long enough to break the page, but long enough that it could be sectioned. Consider a single Characters/ page that covers 22+ seasons. I'd think it would be cumbersome to read through if it were kept to a single page.

I moved the tropes that were already on the page to the individual pages; any redundancies can be deleted and could have been done so while they were on the main page. Examples that apply across seasons, I've kept, though the all-stars examples may only be on the pages where the original team came from.

If you feel as if you wield a scalpel better than I do on this subject, you may use it. :)
almightyblue
07:33:58 PM Apr 21st 2013
Again, it's not the sectioning that I have an issue with, it's the creating of so many extra, unnecessary pages. Look at how the Survivor page is laid out for an example. Examples like The Maze, which only applies to Season 5, probably should be separated into another folder to keep it becoming cumbersome.

And if just creating a separate folder is not what you had in mind, and if you don't like adding the few season-specific examples to the top of each character page, then the Series and Character pages would probably be better combined into a single Season Recap page.
Quanyails
04:20:32 AM Apr 22nd 2013
I just did, and it's even lengthier than this page. Long pages get new sub-pages, and to keep the pages parallel with the character ones, I chose to divide them by season. I would have no qualms about merging the season pages into one per season, though I'd keep the character tropes individualized instead of pooling them back together.
DragonRanger
09:58:28 AM Apr 23rd 2013
edited by 69.172.221.2
I'm with almightyblue. I would prefer to keep everything on the same page - maybe using more folders - but if we're going to split off into multiple pages, then twenty-odd pages is overkill. Let's cut it down to... let's say five at most. We can just group stuff alphabetically (See Avatar: The Last Airbender or Girl Genius for examples), or we can continue grouping stuff by season like it is now; we just put multiple seasons on one page (an S1-5 page, an S6-10 page, etc.)
almightyblue
03:29:40 PM Apr 24th 2013
edited by 216.99.32.45
After paring down the season pages to just the season specific tropes, most of them aren't long enough to justify a separate page for each season. There's somewhere around 120 tropes total between all the pages, which comes to about 5.5 tropes per page, and that's before you combine tropes that are on multiple pages like Description Cut. Plus, most of the character pages contain more tropes than that.

If there's going to be separate pages, my suggestion would be a page for the International Versions, a page for the All-Stars era tropes (1-11), Unfinished Business era tropes (12-18) and post Unfinished Business era tropes (19 and on).
catprog
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07:25:57 AM Sep 21st 2012
their was one season of the American one where their was two reams racing to dig the last 7:30 ticket up. Only problem was their were 3x7:00 ones still remaining. Would that be Failed a spot check?
almightyblue
11:04:10 AM Sep 21st 2012
Are you talking about the season 7 premiere? That would be Reality Show Genre Blindness I think, as the teams didn't even check the other flight times, one just started digging at the first one they came to, and the others followed.
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