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Alega5
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11:45:57 AM Jun 10th 2012
Why was so many tropes deleted?
Viredae
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06:49:14 AM May 23rd 2012
in episode #23-24, is it just me or does the "ugly Duckling" club look like it's a re-use of the pool hall that was used as the front for the Kamen Rider W's base of operations?
yecasux
06:23:42 PM Jul 28th 2012
They do
Kaneharo
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06:00:12 AM Apr 18th 2012
Will we end up just needing a Wham page for this show? They seem to happen a lot and with more frequency as more episodes go on.
NeoLightning
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12:24:32 PM Apr 17th 2012
Does anyone know what the colors for the Freeze, Aero, Gyro, Net and Stamper Switches? And by colors, I don't mean the ones that go with their shape spots, like orange circles for the right arm or yellow triangles for the left leg. I mean the colors that each Switch gets.
Kaneharo
05:57:18 AM Apr 18th 2012
As of the recent ep, Stamper kind of gets a red violet color, similar to pomergranates. I can't quite remember the others.
AstroSwitch
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09:44:24 PM Dec 12th 2011
After watching the current episode (episode 14) you might want to add No Kill Like Overkill. he used a powered up version of Rocket Rider Drill Kick on Scorpion.
LBcrimson
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11:43:55 AM Nov 5th 2011
edited by websurfer
Why is Fire States noted as a Fragile Speedster?
Kinkajou
04:56:34 AM Nov 13th 2011
If the stats noted on the Web Site (which are a large case of Informed Attribute) and Episode 10's fight are any indication, it's actually closer to a Mighty Glacier (ironically, given its element).
JProllz
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06:30:23 PM Nov 2nd 2011
Could Fourze's four switch-types (Cross, Circle, Square, Triangle) be considered a Shout-Out of sorts to the Playstation controller's (identical) symbols.
TMR
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05:14:33 PM Nov 1st 2011
edited by TMR
I think that we should use use the spelling of "Elec" instead of "Elek" because the word comes from "electric", which is spelled with a "c". additionally, with such cases of spelling like "Latorartar" and "Tajadol" it's very clear that Toei's romanizations don't always work, and just because something is official doesn't mean we have to use it here
websurfer
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01:43:57 PM Oct 31st 2011
edited by websurfer
Would you consider the Hee-Hack Gun a Swiss-Army Weapon or Bifurcated Weapon? You know, considering that it can switch between Flame and Extinguisher Modes and when in the latter mode, it has a hose connecting the two halves.
JProllz
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11:46:10 AM Oct 18th 2011
Why does the page picture have a link to Portal 2 in it? This show has nothing to do at ALL with Portal 2. It's misleading and I'm removing it. Just because it's a semi-meme doesn't mean it's necessary to put it in.
PersonWithManyAliases
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01:42:09 PM Oct 17th 2011
Should we be calling the Zodiarts by their animal name, or by their constellation?
Psyga315
02:20:18 PM Oct 17th 2011
Hm... Constellation, just to make it unique from The Other Wiki.
PersonWithManyAliases
12:00:44 AM Oct 18th 2011
I dunno. I can see the thinking, but it seems like Toei is using animal names, which makes that one more official. Using constellation names would be cool (and educational!), and I do want to do that, but if we force a discrepancy, it might lead to a lot of confusion (and edit wars, at worse). A lot of edits are adding the Zodiarts by their animal names, as it is. We're going to need a lot of consensus on this one.
Ryulong
08:47:18 PM Oct 18th 2011
The official names are the English animal names, rather than the constellation names. It was only confusing because Orion has no English version and Chamaeleon and Chameleon are written the same in Japanese (or they gave it no special alternate name in Japanese like much of the other constellations). That and no one knows what Canes Venatici is.
Infinix
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06:00:13 AM Sep 25th 2011
New year, new series, new terms, new arguments.

About Fourze's Fire States weapon: "Hi-Hack Gun". I didn't see the toy catalogs before, but Ryulong brought my attention to the fact that the term uses the Katakana "Hi", and not as in "Hi-Tech" like I thought. So what'll the page use?

  • By itself, the "Hi" can be taken as the pronunciation for Kanji "Fire".
    • It has a couple of downsides though. For one, people might get the wrong pronunciation. Also, considering the series uses a lot of Gratuitous English, it might feel out of place. However, both of the issues can be solved with hot-tip notes.
  • Ryulong suggests "Hea-Hack Gun".
    • The rendition retains the wordplay in the name, as well as makes clear the pronunciation. But it has the downside of leaving the word "Heat" unfinished, and that might look awkward to some.
  • We can also use "Heat-Hack Gun" as a direct approach.
    • It makes the term completely clear and understandable at the cost of deviating from the official term.
  • Or we can just wait, at least until the form debuts officially in the series, at which point the official site should have some info on it.

I'm for "Heat-" primarily, but "Hea-" doesn't sound too bad either; I'm more inclined to pick "Hi-" as the last option. That being said, I'm gonna wait for the TV debut first.

Does anybody have anything to say about this?
Psyga315
10:53:20 AM Oct 8th 2011
I say Heat-Hack-Gun as well.
Ryulong
08:45:44 PM Oct 18th 2011
It's "Hea-Hack" officially. Why should you continually change things here? I also note someone switched all the "Elek"s to "Elec"s.
Infinix
12:56:00 AM Oct 19th 2011
edited by Infinix
Just because Toei likes to use broken English doesn't mean we have to, you know. I also stated my reasons above. Personally, I'd go for "Heat-Hack"; leaving a word unfinished is just silliness on Toei/Plex's part.
Thorn14
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01:35:48 PM Sep 5th 2011
Removing the part about this being TTGL meets Kamen Rider. It just has the writer and the main is a little hotblooded. Thats it. Also the drill kick is by no means a shout out to TTGL either (TTGL did not invent drills)
NekoLLX
05:23:43 PM Sep 5th 2011
What i don't get is why the Recycled in Space calling it a rehash of Faiz was removed. That actually happened. Several months ago there was a add on FB talking about the new KR domain Fourze that was purchased, but when the synopsis was explained EVERYONE said they were confuseing Faiz with OOO
Infinix
10:43:44 PM Sep 5th 2011
You have to be pretty dark and serious to be a rehash of Faiz. It doesn't look that way to me either.
NekoLLX
12:28:25 AM Sep 6th 2011
Doesn't change the fact that that WAS what EVERYONE thought when they heard the synoposis
Infinix
02:35:07 AM Sep 6th 2011
"Everyone"? That sounds a bit exaggerated, but I digress.

What did Toei say back then?
NekoLLX
02:57:04 AM Sep 6th 2011
nothing it was one of those news ads you see on the sidebar, had a header imange of Ta To Ba and basicly said "Toai has just registered a new domain Kamen Rider Fourze. Acourding to sources it's a show about a highschool kid..." pratty much world for word for the later synoposies. Not /one/ person who replied took it serious, the premise sounded like Faiz, and everyone said as much.
NekoLLX
03:09:52 AM Sep 6th 2011
found it http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/05/19/new-kamen-rider-series-on-its-way/ Couse since Foure is now on the air their have undoubtely been newer posts

but here is a good excerpt "Keishan Ragoo commented | 3 months ago THATS kamen rider ooo's, and its not entirely new since its up to episode 35.

it cant be kamen rider dragon, since the US already showed an american adaptation of kamen rider ryuki(dragon). -the storyline your explaining is faiz.

and i dont mean to sound rude... but the hensei era started in 1999 with kamen rider kuuga..

..im sorry im a die hard rider fan."
Infinix
05:08:37 AM Sep 6th 2011
edited by Infinix
Ah, so it's the "high school student inheriting the driver from father, but cannot use it and has to let the protagonist instead" part that reminded people of 555. Well, that and probably the number-based titles getting close to 5.

I can now understand why some might think that way, but it's an unimportant trivia now. It may have been an in-joke back when there's little info about Fourze to identify the series, but not at this point. It's just one common element between premises - not even the stories as a whole - and a superficial coincidence at best.

Another important thing to see here: http://www.jefusion.com/2011/09/fourze-kamen-rider-club-no-more.html. That's Toei announcing that they're gonna change (part of) the previously established premise for Fourze because it sounds like a setup in Decade's 555 world. They don't even want coincidences with a non-canon alternate-reality world from Decade that appeared for only two episodes.

There are multiple elements to remember 555 by: humanity, racial conflict, one's true self, etc. There was a school, but it wasn't played out like the standard school setting in modern media by any means. In fact, another thing I don't understand is that there are tons of Japanese mainstream fiction in high-school settings - even in the past few quarters alone - and people are reminded of a series that had minimal mentions about school, among other things.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't mention the parallels between the two, mind you. I understand why it became an in-joke in the first place. What I'm saying is that it's largely irrelevant at this point, after all the new info since then.
NekoLLX
06:13:34 AM Sep 6th 2011
And All i'm saying is it fits well for the "Reclcyed in space trope" heck it could even earn a mention for "casanda truth: meta example"
Infinix
06:29:44 AM Sep 6th 2011
edited by Infinix
No. Not "Cassandra Truth". Definitely not; that'd just be arrogant to say. For that matter, even whether the similarity is deliberate or not (the "truth") is very doubtful, especially after Toei changed the premise to avoid coinciding with a minor element in a previous show.

"Kamen Rider In Space" makes sense. "Kamen Rider 555 In Space", on the other hand, would be just a forced assumption.

If you absolutely must, try "Does This Remind You Of Anything?". "Mythology Gag" is also out of the question after the official premise change.
NekoLLX
01:49:49 PM Sep 6th 2011
That could work, i mean considering the reaction it should at least be mentioned somewhere
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