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reno2200
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07:52:31 PM May 31st 2013
edited by 70.33.253.42
What would one class the Spear of Destiny, a dinosaur skull, the Sword in the Stone, an Egyptian death mask, the Ark of the Covenant and... kryptonite (?) as? Public Domain Artifact? Some appear in other movies - the Ark looks like the on in Raiders of the Lost Ark, the Spear looks like the one from Constantine - though this may just be things being based on real-world pictures. Also, many are mentioned in Assassin's Creed - the games and the expanded universe - so the latter is entirely possible, although it probably wouldn't be the first Shout-Out. For starters, Lucrezia's father is missing his 'Assassin's Promise' finger on his right hand.

Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane: Along with Vlad Tepes III a.k.a. Dracula and his seeming immortality... and, hilariously, only seemingly affected by getting clattered with a great big cross and being set on fire... we have the Spear of Destiny - can it really just magically cut through anything or is it some slightly absurd science-y thing?

Fingore: I might be reading too much into this, but... Lucrezia has a ring that belonged to her father and is seen with a finger when disguised in The Hierophant. Is it too much of a leap to think that she was sent her father's finger, with the ring still on it as proof of the identity of the finger's former owner, as proof that the Pope had him captive?

Someone to Remember Him By: A Vatican guard suggests this, though it might not count as it was said sarcastically and the intended almost-raped woman was to be killed soon after.

Mook Chivalry: Giuliano de Medici effectively fights three men in quick succession. Speed is a factor, but they do wait in line.

"As my brother fucked you in the arse, did you smile knowing you were doing the same to him?" Not sure how to categorise that one. Armor Piercing Question? Lucrezia always likes to think that everything is a Necessary Evil and is rarely called out on crap that happens because of her, and the only two people that have really called her out were shanked soon after. Which leads to...

Foregone Conclusion: Giuliano survives. But then is killed when the Pazzi Conspiracy comes to light. Probably in next week's finale. Trust me. I played Assassin's Creed. All of them. Lorenzo and Giuliano get targeted in broad daylight, with Lorenzo getting wounded but helped to safety by a mysterious helper (seriously, history doesn't know who - Ezio in Assassin's Creed, Leo in Da Vinci's Demons?) whilst Giuliano gets stabbed seventeen times, with a sword blow to the head killing him.

A final note - Nico. Is he... Niccolo Machiavelli? This show doesn't follow history to the letter, Niccolo was younger than Leonardo, they both spent time in their youth in Florence... Nico proved that he can be very determined and Riario said that in another life, they may have been comrades. Riario is a master manipulator - every inch 'The Prince,' one might say.
RavenGrave
10:19:12 AM Jun 2nd 2013
Public Domain Artifact seems like a good pick. Maybe also list the appropriate ones (the Arc, the Spear, the possible lump of kryptonite...) as Shout Outs?

The whole series has been running on Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane with the Time Travelling Turk trolling Leo for all it's worth. I'd say put it on the YMMV page, just to be safe, but I do agree with your points.

Not sure if the finger was a part of her costume or what, although it looks awfully fresh for it to have been her father's finger. Perhaps a WMG?

You could list Someone to Remember Him By if you add that note about how the guard was just saying it to taunt Lucretia and be a dick about it.

Mook Chivalry was definitely in play there.

That was an Armour Piercing Question right there, and I like your reasoning.

Foregone Conclusion: Ach! You're right!

That last note is a masterful WMG. Go for it.
RavenGrave
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02:40:21 PM May 29th 2013
Looks like Riario is turning into the Zoidberg of Da Vinci's Demons. He's mentioned last in every list.
reno2200
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03:58:19 PM May 25th 2013
Is it worth putting something Assassin'sCreed related on the YMMV page? A young renaissance man with tragedy in his past fights the papacy in Rome for secret knowledge than no man is meant to have... plus, in one instance, Leonardo uses a crane-type device in the same way Ezio from Assassin's Creed does to escape from the guards. http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Merchandise_Lifts#Merchandise_lifts Shout-Out? Copyright infringement? (Joking about that last bit...)
RavenGrave
02:28:54 PM May 29th 2013
Oh good Lord, you're right. Eh, why not. So long as you put in a "possibly unintentional" disclaimer in there, it seems appropriate.

Must now ensure that I do not start calling Leonardo Ezio at any point.

Only qualm would be that Leo clearly has outlets BESIDES vaginas :P
SpaceWolf
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10:33:00 PM May 23rd 2013
edited by 69.172.221.4
This needs a picture, but I do not know how to add one.
Telcontar
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04:46:07 AM May 24th 2013
See How to Pick a Good Image and Images in Wiki Pages.

Short version: Use the uploader to get the image and then paste the bit of markup it spits at you into the article.
RavenGrave
08:35:57 AM May 24th 2013
Uploaded, using the Starz promotional image. Thanks for the explanation of how how to this, Telcontar!
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