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XFllo
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04:42:01 PM Oct 29th 2014
Spoiled Sweet is in TRS and the trope is much more narrow than a character with rich background who is a decent person. Other character traits include naive, sheltered, optimistic, genuinely nice to everyone, sometimes might slip and be a bit mean (unintentionally).

This example has a long write up, but it doesn't seem like she fits.

  • Spoiled Sweet: Chummy comes from a much more privileged background than any of the other characters, being a member of the upper class. However, she is also one of the kindest characters in the show, at no point putting herself above the poor and low-class members of the East End. Her mother, on the other hand... Chummy is especially notable when compared to main character Jenny Lee, who also comes from a significantly well-off background. Jenny is constantly horrified by the conditions around her, whilst Chummy more often than not just goes with it and tries to do the best she can with what she's got.
RoseAndHeather
10:05:04 AM Oct 30th 2014
Yeah, Chummy really doesn't fit the Spoiled Sweet archetype at all. I've always understood Spoiled Sweet to be "that girl who would be the Alpha Bitch if she weren't just so darned nice", a la Cher Horowitz in Clueless, not just "any nice rich girl".
XFllo
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04:42:00 PM Oct 29th 2014
Spoiled Sweet is in TRS and the trope is much more narrow than a character with rich background who is a decent person. Other character traits include naive, sheltered, optimistic, genuinely nice to everyone, sometimes might slip and be a bit mean (unintentionally).

This example has a long write up, but it doesn't seem like she fits.

  • Spoiled Sweet: Chummy comes from a much more privileged background than any of the other characters, being a member of the upper class. However, she is also one of the kindest characters in the show, at no point putting herself above the poor and low-class members of the East End. Her mother, on the other hand... Chummy is especially notable when compared to main character Jenny Lee, who also comes from a significantly well-off background. Jenny is constantly horrified by the conditions around her, whilst Chummy more often than not just goes with it and tries to do the best she can with what she's got.
XFllo
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10:49:03 PM Jan 26th 2014
edited by 77.48.59.223
Removed from the page:

  • English Rose: Sister Bernadette stands out as an archetypal example; modest, petite, Silk Hiding Steel, gentle, fair-skinned blonde, and after leaving the convent, a devoted wife and mother.

This example was removed from the trope page the write-up mentioned she was actually Welsh or Scottish, so she doesn't qualify.

I don't watch the series, so I hope it was accurate. Please add it back if there's a mistake.
RoseAndHeather
11:56:04 PM Jan 26th 2014
edited by 65.27.97.229
One, she's Scottish - or at least her actress is. But not only is Scottish still British, but her character lives in London and has done for at least a decade (we don't know anything about where she grew up, but for all we know she could have left Scotland at a very young age), and what's more, she is everything a classical English Rose is supposed to be. Seriously, she fits every single character trait — modest (she's a former nun, she's a gentle nurse-midwife, has a peaches-and-cream complexion and shining blonde hair, is tiny (5'2" and slight), and devotes herself to her family, her stepson, and her husband once they finally do, even giving up her work as a nurse because she prefers to be a stay-at-home mother.

Adding it back.
XFllo
01:38:54 AM Jan 30th 2014
There was quite a heated discussion in the Trope Repair Shop because there was lots of misuse in the past. For instance, people kept adding American characters or just American actresses who fit visually... Simply, it's hard work to keep the trope clean. My understanding is that British does not equal English, and Scotish by no means equals English.

The result of the discussion in the TRS was that she must truly be English, otherwise she doesn't fit. Other nationalities can easily be listed as Proper Lady.

We discussed it over PM with troper lexii who also parcipitated in the TRS. If she's English in the source material, it should be clearly stated in the write up.
RoseAndHeather
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11:13:32 PM Dec 3rd 2013
Should we go ahead and unspoil the Turnadette storyline? At this point I think it's an open secret anyway, but I don't want to make the decision unilaterally.
HangMeInRags
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06:06:13 PM Jun 4th 2013
What!?! PBS is making edits? Those traitorous bastards! Say it ain't so.....!

Ok, with that out of the way... someone please tell me that the eps Netflix is streaming are complete...
Hodor
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12:50:01 PM Apr 17th 2013
What should you call her?
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