Recap My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 2 E 16 Read It And Weep Discussion

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01:34:03 PM Sep 10th 2012
  • Viewers Are Geniuses: Daring Do had to figure out which animal was different than the others in order to outsmart the trap. The different one was a rat because it was not a predator. Not the most obvious difference to spot at first, as compared to a lone bird or reptile among mammals, for example. But perhaps the predator/prey distinction is more significant to small, tasty ponies.

Viewers Are Geniuses doesn't mean "Maybe there's a far-fetched explanation for it after all." That sounds like Fridge Logic, however.
02:05:02 PM Sep 11th 2012
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Breather from what? The intense darkness and action of the surrounding equally light episodes?

If you want to express an opinion like "nothing happened in this episode", write a review or something. I don't know if that's the reason here, but in general people seem to keep trying to find tropes to express their complaint or other opinion about a work, which is not how it works.
02:10:31 PM Sep 11th 2012
  • Doctor Jerk: More like Doctor Stern; Doctor Caramel is a bit of a hard-ass, especially when Rainbow Dash tried faking illness. Justified, since he could tell Rainbow was malingering; he has an obligation to free up resources for ponies who need them; and up until that point Rainbow had hated being there.

"Trope: Well, it's actually not this trope. Also not for this and this reason."
02:14:31 PM Sep 11th 2012
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  • Even the Rats Won't Touch It: Not surprisingly, the hospital food given to Rainbow Dash. It looks plain enough, but when she starts eating it, even the gelatin looks as if it were made of red gruel.

There were vermin in the hospital? I don't think so, but correct me if I'm wrong. (Also, it probably only looked unappetising because of the way she ate it, but that's not relevant since the trope description specifies vermin.)
02:17:30 PM Sep 11th 2012
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  • Faux Shadow: The Bandage Mummy pony who shares the room with Rainbow Dash gets a few minutes of focus but has little relevance to the plot.

This one is open to debate, but what focus? He's just part of the scenery and a couple of jokes. None of it looks like foreshadowing to me.
02:19:40 PM Sep 11th 2012
  • Faux Horrific: The entire crux of the plot. A non-egghead being into reading? Perish the thought!
    • Also, when Rainbow Dash is discovered after sneaking into the hospital, the patient thinks she was trying to steal his slippers.
      • Which causes a chase involving Dr. Caramel, two nurses, a number of hospital security guards, and the barking patient.

The trope is about faux horror. You know, as in scariness.
02:23:47 PM Sep 11th 2012
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  • Made of Iron: The ponies exhibit this quite often, but this episode really drives it home. Rainbow's wing is shown on the x-ray clearly with a fracture, yet was released after only a few days without even a cast.

The trope is about not getting hurt in the first place, not fast healing, so this episode is actually an aversion. I checked whether this could be Hollywood Healing instead, but apparently not.
02:28:52 PM Sep 11th 2012
  • Not So Above It All: Rainbow Dash initially scoffs at the idea that reading is fun, but she eventually gives in when the boredom becomes too much to handle.

What, she's being the one who's above the craziness (which is not the Straight Man, mind, even though that page uses that term incorrectly) because she won't read? Nothing to do with the trope.
02:37:38 PM Sep 11th 2012
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  • Wrongful Accusation Insurance: Rainbow Dash may have convinced everyone that she wasn't trying to steal a patient's slippers, but the fact remains that she should still be in trouble for breaking and entering into the hospital after hours to steal hospital property (the book).
    • Well, more just "entering" than "breaking". And she did at first just try to finish reading the book where she found it (under the bed), and only after she was suddenly busted did she combine her denial of slipper stealing with her reflexive grasp on the book into "...I'm stealing this book!"

Wrongful Accusation Insurance: "A wrongly accused character isn't charged for crimes they committed to prove their innocence." Rainbow Dash did not... do I really have to spell this out?
08:44:29 AM Sep 15th 2012
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This might sound a bit surprising (though not if you're in the habit of actually reading trope descriptions), but Why Did It Have to Be Snakes? isn't about snakes, not even not liking snakes, but about someone having a particular thing they're scared of. So it hasn't got anything to do with this. It's not like Daring Do never looks scared at all except when seeing the snakes.
09:05:30 AM Sep 15th 2012
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  • Temporarily a Villain: Rainbow Dash becomes this when she sneaks into the hospital at night, goes into a room she was previously in, while other patients are sleeping there, to steal the Daring Do book she knows is there, waking and frightening one of the patients and setting off the burglar alarms... and instead of coming clean about what she did, trying to get away. note

This is another one (only the second one so far) I could actually see some debate about, but it's hardly villainous... minus the patient she didn't know about, she could have just sneaked into the hospital, read a book there under the bed and sneaked out. And trying to run away when caught is just gut instinct, not to mention that she didn't want to explain what she was doing because she was ashamed of it. Even if she had planned to do it all more like considering all that mentioned above in hindsight, it still wouldn't be more than rather unlawful and inconsiderate, the worst part being stealing a book.
05:53:31 PM Feb 6th 2012
Holy crap, lots of mixed reviews are busting out for this episode. Even more than "The Mysterious Mare Do Well". I know I shouldn't be surprised given the Crazy Awesome fandom this series has, but was this really that radical of a departure from other episodes?
09:24:24 PM Feb 6th 2012
I liked "Read It And Weep", but I also felt it was a weaker episode that relied too much on the Show-Within-A-Show factor. I think an *actual* action-adventure episode featuring the Main 6 would have been better. Of course, I'd also like to see multi-episode story arcs, but now I'm wishing for a pie in the sky.

11:00:05 PM Feb 6th 2012
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It seems like the fans on TV Tropes hate the episode a lot more than the ones I've seen on Ponychan or Equestria Daily, for whatever reason. I happened to like it. Maybe it's just a Vocal Minority.
02:22:38 AM Feb 8th 2012
It usually is.
02:15:59 PM Sep 11th 2012
Do you have to be a book lover to get it? Twilight's reaction to the events is the one that makes sense to me.
02:20:19 PM Feb 4th 2012
Who voiced Daring Do? She sounds distinct from Rainbow Dash, and I'm not sure if it's Ashleigh Ball or not.
02:41:37 PM Feb 4th 2012
She does sound slightly like Rainbow Dash at points. My guess is Ashleigh voices her, and just made her voice less scratchy for Daring Do.
02:46:54 PM Feb 4th 2012
People have been saying she sounds like Spitfire; maybe it's her VA?
10:07:11 AM Feb 5th 2012
It sounded a lot like Ashleigh's normal speaking voice to me, without the scratch she pumps in for RD.
08:13:09 PM Feb 5th 2012
Jason Theissan said he couldn't remember what the persons name was off the top of his head and that this was so far the only time that VA has worked on the show.
10:28:26 AM Feb 4th 2012
I've been hearing the fan nickname "Appleaday" for the doctor pony. I like it. I'm also pretty sure the pink nurse is Tiara's mom, and is Dash's roommate Berry? If so, somepony had a helluva bender.
11:08:55 AM Feb 4th 2012
Surely Filthy Rich is wealthy enough that his wife needn't work. And the roommate appears to be male.
11:20:29 AM Feb 4th 2012
That she doesn't need to work doesn't mean she might not still do work anyway. She might've worked before they got married and enjoy it even though she doesn't need to work.
11:40:53 AM Feb 4th 2012
It could also explain why Tiara acts out- Her dad's a nice enough pony, so we know she's not emulating him. But what if her mom's preoccupation with helping other ponies means she doesn't spend much time with her daughter? The Tiara's going to associate being nice with the feeling of loneliness, which would manifest as being a total brat.

01:35:26 PM Feb 4th 2012
Speaking of the doctor, can anyone confirm who did his voice? I swear it sounld like Paul F Tompkins, but I can't find any information about it anywhere.
07:02:46 PM Feb 4th 2012
Let me throw down the WMG that Screwball is Tiara's sister, and their mother works in the hospital to keep an eye on her, something that Tiara resents because of the lack of attention being focused on her.
09:55:57 AM Feb 4th 2012
No, I really don't wanna give the Barking Pony the Fan Nickname "Screw Loose". Because that would imply her special talent and cutie mark are all about being mentally ill/mentally challenged, and I don't think that's a vibe the show is going for.

10:17:14 AM Feb 4th 2012
Good point. So what should her name be? I'm partial to the idea that she's a relative of Trixie (Trixie's trying to raise the money to pay for her psychiatric treatment.)
10:29:18 AM Feb 4th 2012
Ruff Stuff?
10:32:55 AM Feb 4th 2012
I think it's inescapable that her name be Barking Mad, vibe or no vibe.
10:35:45 AM Feb 4th 2012
Barking Mad, Ponyville's dog obedience trainer and "puppy drill sergeant". KA-HEADCANON!
10:41:16 AM Feb 4th 2012
Barking's Cutie Mark? A dog whistle.
10:43:50 AM Feb 4th 2012
YES. I like where this is going.
02:17:03 PM Feb 4th 2012
Why are we arguing about naming a background pony here? The result will be decided elsewhere and we really don't need to include a name on the page anyways.
02:10:24 AM Feb 5th 2012
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I'm the one who came up with Screw Loose. Personally, I think Barking Mad is a better name, so I'm willing to accept the change. Screw Loose could be misconstrued. However, for the OP, the name is irrelevant. The fact that the cutie mark is a screw already gives the vibe PC is worried about (haha, see what I did there?) Barking Mad is fine.
09:21:39 AM Jan 31st 2012
It's easy to assume that the aesop of this episode is going to be something along the lines of "don't hide who you really are". Am I the only one who notices that as sort of a subtle shout-out to the bronies who don't want to admit they watch the show?
06:59:41 PM Feb 4th 2012
That aspect was downplayed more for the "don't knock it until you try it" aesop, but it's still there and Rainbow Dash is still an easy Audience Surrogate.
01:33:36 PM Sep 10th 2012
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