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08:13:03 PM Nov 5th 2013
Thanks to trope redefinings, aren't all (I did a quick look) of the examples currently under the "Funny Aneurysm" Moment folder basically Cerebus Retcons? If so, they should probably be moved off of this page, as Cerebus Retcon is not really a reaction trope.
10:38:44 PM Nov 26th 2012
Would Aranea and Meenah count as ensemble darkhorses out of their group, given how they're actually the main two? It would be like saying that Karkat and Terezi are the ensemble darkhorses out of the trolls; it doesn't make much sense. Aranea and Meenah are popular characters and, with respect to their group, major characters. That's like saying the protagonists are popular, which is not what that trope is really about.

Yes I know Terezi's on there but that entry mentioned that it was before the trolls were fully revealed and it might have been comparing them to the entire cast so I'll let that one slide.
12:30:22 PM Nov 16th 2012
Okay, I've deleted three people's attempts to add "You are now Caliborn" to the Wham Line section.

Let's get one thing straight: that's not a Wham Line. It's not a plot revelation, and it doesn't change the course of the story any more than any of the other ten thousand viewpoint switches in Homestuck do. The only possible thing shocking about it— that you're now seeing things through the eyes of a villainous character— is something that has already happened quite a few times, so it's hardly groundbreaking.

Am I wrong about any of the above?
04:47:55 PM Nov 10th 2012
Do we really need to list love confessions/breakup reveals as wham lines? Homestuck is a lot of things, but it's not a romance webcomic to the extent that announcements of whatever pairing really count as plot-changers.

Especially since Jade and Davesprite's relationship (to give an example) was appearantly so unimportant it happened completely off screen.
12:12:28 AM Oct 26th 2012
edited by Scardoll
I have to give it to you Eridan fans; he's the least popular character in the comic (Look at the most recent pages of the thread. Notice who is consistently on the bottom of each list), and you still find a way to call him an Ensemble Darkhorse. That's dedication.
02:34:50 PM Sep 23rd 2012
edited by AmbystomaMaculatum
On the subject of whether or not Karkat's "YOU MADE AN UNBEATABLE BOSS" line qualifies as a Wham Line: The Wham Line page says "If there is Foreshadowing, the line is the result of events or conversations that are clearly shown on screen, or it's a Foregone Conclusion, then it is not a Wham Line. The line itself has to be completely unexpected." I really don't think Karkat's line meets those qualifications. The way the scene goes, Karkat is yelling at John about how the kids screwed up, and then we're shown how they screwed up in Jade: Enter, and then Karkat tell John how they screwed up. The fact that Jack Noir is now "unbeatable" just isn't that big of a reveal. We already knew Bec was really, really powerful, and perhaps invincible, and now we know that those powers have been transferred to Jack. It's a basic inference that now Jack is going to be at least really, really hard to beat.
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