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Lyiofcycleprotector
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11:32:13 AM Nov 16th 2012
edited by Lyiofcycleprotector
Okay, so I asked in the pantheon discussion tab if anyone minded me moving Littlefoot up from God of Too Many Sequels to God of sequels, which would place him in the comerce hall, and no body seems to have any objections so far. Does anyone here object to this? If not, I'll move him over to purgatory for awhile and then eventually to the hall of comerce.
ZootAlure
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05:29:45 PM Oct 23rd 2012
Mind if I make a case for Littlefoot's removal from the list?
Megafighter3
11:56:40 AM Nov 5th 2012
Go ahead.
Lyiofcycleprotector
02:42:28 PM Nov 7th 2012
Okay, so I was looked it up, and the Land Before Time series has made a total of 12 sequels (13 movies total) and a one season TV show. All of these sequels were direct to video/DVD only, and were never shown in theaters, nor were any of them involved with Don Bluth. The first sequel was in 1994, and the final sequel so far has been in 2007, a 13 year time period of sequels, which meant roughly one every year. So the general consensus is that Littlefoot is a likable enough character and all from his depiction of the first film, which is now considered an animation masterpiece and one of the last animated films of its kind before the Disney Renaissance and the later Pixar Renaissance put 'darker' animation and traditional animation out favor, respectively. He's not disliked and has one fantastic film, which is why he doesn't fit as a Disgraced. He's listed as the God of Too Many Sequels, which I'm not going to dispute (although after a little research, I've found that there are around 75 movie franchises that have had more than twelve sequels). The thought behind him being a 'Fallen' god is that he's done so many sequels that are of lesser quality than the original, people tend to think less of the franchise as a whole and this he's considered 'fallen'. When the Land Before Time was still making movies, this was invariably true: even mentioning the franchise would start a conversation bemoaning how such a great film has been dragged through the mud by commercialization. Now, apparently the franchise was pretty much the only source of reliable revenue for Universal Animation Studios, the company producing the sequels. Taking a liberal interpretation of this article I found, it was actually one of the major things keeping the studio from being closed http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/end-of-days.html?m=1. Knowing that these sequels, as lackluster as their reputed to be, kept an entire studio of traditional-style animators in business for 13 years in an age where traditional animation was almost absent is actually really cool. In addition, the sequels themselves are not nearly as awful as most people assume them to be. That's an opinionated statement, but it's the opinionated statement of this very wiki's own Sequelitis article when talking about the series. Now, putting those things aside, the franchise has been dead for five years. The argument I make isn't that the Land Before Time hasn't made too many sequels, but that by this point enough time has passed that it's 'okay' to enjoy the series again for what it's made, and that Littlefoot has gone from a whored-out character to more of the status quo position of a classic and still beloved childhood character. I guess that's my argument.
magnum12
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06:04:51 PM Sep 21st 2012
edited by magnum12
Two more weeks to go before we find out if Malal gets out of The Fallen. So far in terms of rumors, the minor chaos gods upgrades are a no go. His chances lie in his mention in the fluff.
Megafighter3
11:11:53 PM Nov 21st 2012
edited by Megafighter3
Never mind, didn't check the page to see the update.
magnum12
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07:23:36 PM Feb 22nd 2012
edited by magnum12
Have a bunch of ideas for Fallen esque tropes. Remember that being here is NOT an indication that the character is disliked by the fan base (that's the disgraces).

1. Vapor Ware.

Asagi, Goddess of Vapor Ware
  • Quasi deity
  • Symbol: Twin pistols crossed over a flail
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: VaporWare, GunsAkimbo, ButtMonkeys.
  • Domains: War, Suffering
  • Chance Of Redemption: Low. Depends on if either Makai Wars comes out or if she ever becomes the main character of her own game. On the other hand, she is immensely popular among the Nippon Ichi fanbase.

2. Cut Scene Power To The Max

Sindel, Goddess of Cut Scene Power To The Max
  • Quasi deity
  • Symbol: Her skunk like haircut.
  • Alignment: Lawful Good (normal) —> Chaotic Evil (when mind controlled)
  • Portfolio: Cut Scene Power To The Max
  • Domains: Law, Good, Family
  • Chance Of Redemption: Medium. Her chances lie upon Mortal Kombat 10's story mode.
  • Fell as a result of an infamous scene in Mortal Kombat 9 which went Beyond The Impossible, resulting in much rage and eye rolling. Alas, the events of the story mode of Mortal Kombat 9 ruined many characters, causing the fall of Raiden and the temporary disgrace of Quan Chi. As a result, much of the pantheon feels sorry for her.

3. Gog/Goddess that can Never Live It Down. Who has been whacked the hardest? I have a few candidates here.

-a. Shion Sonozaki. Despite only snapping in one story arc (Cotton Drifting and Eye Opening are the same story told from different perspectives), Shion above everyone else in the cast is forever remembered as the psychopath (even more so than the actual Big Bad), having the fan nick name of "That Ax Crazy Yandere chick who tortures everyone." The fact that her arc is the darkest, nastiest arc in the series (and that's saying something) doesn't help her case. Reason why I don't have a proto portfolio is that I lack a proper true alignment (seen as Chaotic Evil).

-b. Ant Man. Defined by one panel (pictured in the comic books section).

-c. Sai or Neji. The former gets remembered for his dick commentary. The later suffers some serious Ron The Death Eater flak over a certain No Holds Barred Beat Down early in the series despite having a Heel Face Turn practically a decade ago.
magnum12
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09:56:27 PM Dec 1st 2011
There may be some chance for the redemption of Malal. Rumor has it that the minor Chaos Gods will be mentioned and have upgrade "marks" in the upcoming Chaos Legions codex.

Megafighter3
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02:02:41 PM Oct 6th 2011
magnum12
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11:22:56 PM Aug 17th 2011
Should Kratos Aurion even be here anymore? There may be another fitting spot for him as the God of Fake Defectors given that's one of the things he's famous for.
ArchdukeCthulhu
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10:32:21 AM Nov 8th 2010
Should Lois Griffin be listed under "The Fallen"? she certainly belongs in the bad parts of the pantheon if Peter and Brian are in around here.
azul120
03:15:46 PM Jan 30th 2011
Flanderization, perhaps? She's become a Jerk Sue in the past couple years.
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