Pantheon Mentalism Discussion

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03:30:07 AM May 5th 2015
Arael is listed as the God of Mind Rape in the "Mind Games" sub-house, and Johann Liebert is listed as the God of Sociopathy and Mind Rape in the "Mentalism Other" sub-house. We either need to unify the two as co-gods, or pick one over the other, and decide which house the trope goes in.
03:43:49 AM May 5th 2015
I think we agreed to give Johan More Than Mind Control. I think.
10:18:08 PM Nov 13th 2014
Quick question, why hasn't Apocolypse handed Albert Wesker an eviction notice and taken over his house of the Evuliotionary Imperative. Apocolypse did it first, he's more powerful and at his weakest he can probably do backstrokes in lava and eat 2 rocket propelled grenade for breakfasts. Or did we just suddenly forget he existed.
10:52:46 PM Nov 13th 2014
Which Apocalypse (unless Apocolypse is a sic)?
08:28:03 AM Nov 14th 2014
Apocalypse from X-men.
04:03:24 AM May 15th 2014
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I would like to add Corvo as the God of Cruel Mercy. Seriously, some of the 'pacifist run' fates of the targets are HORRIFYING.

Corvo Attano, God of Cruel Mercy
  • Intermediate God
  • Symbol: His Mask, with the Outsider's Mark glowing on its forehead.
  • Allignment: Chaotic Neutral: can lean toward Chaotic Good or Chaotic Evil depending on his mood.
  • Portfolio: Professional Killer, Empowered by The Outsider, dealing out terrible fates to those he decides not to kill, Revenge, Morality Pets, Cool Sword, Technical Pacifist, One-Man Army, Flash Step, Plague Master, Time Master, Demonic Possession
  • Domains: 'Mercy', Revenge, Magic, Steam Punk
  • Allies: Ezio Auditore da Firenze, Homura Akemi
  • Enemies: ????
  • Fluctuating Opinion: Lucifer, Cosmos
  • Corvo is a true wild card: not only are his loyalties difficult to determine, but his methods as well: sometimes he kills his marks, sometimes not. The ones who fit into the latter category have however been noted to be the ones he truly hates, and their fates are often unspeakably terrible.
  • 'Won' a flash-step competition with Byakuya Kuchiki at one point: it was later discovered he cheated by combining Time Bend with Blink, allowing him to get a massive head start. Byakuya was less than pleased, and Corvo, who had burned all his mana during the competition, was forced to exit stage right chased by a storm of blades.
  • One of the few to support Homura Akemi's actions during the Great Upheaval: he admires her dedication to Madoka's safety, as Madoka reminds him much of his beloved 'daughter' Emily. This, as one may imagine, has not endeared him to the Sisterhood, though attacks on him have gone poorly: when a small group of them attempted to ambush him, his response was to Bend Time and steal all but one of their Soul Gems. He then Blinked away, and they dropped on the spot. He returned said Gems thirty seconds later, again completely unnoticed by the one still standing. He has not been attacked by them since.
02:26:41 PM Apr 17th 2014
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Mako Mankanshoku, Goddess of Bewildering Her Opponents by Using Absurd Logic That Actually Makes Sense.
  • Lesser God (Intermediate or Greater God when equipped with a Goku uniform)
  • Symbol: Raised hands that are crossed at the wrists under a spotlight, Her two-star uniform
  • Alignment: Chaotic Good
  • Portfolio: Silencing opponents by having weird philosophies, Cloud Cuckoolander, The Ditz, Beware the Silly Ones, Chivalrous Pervert, Idiots who are actually badass when the time calls for it, Fun Personified, Heroic Willpower, Na´veEverygirl, Plucky Girl, Plucky Comic Relief, Simple-Minded Wisdom, Genki Girl,
  • Domain: Weirdness, Optimism, Friendship
  • Allies:
  • Ascended: Ryuko Matoi, Simon, Kamina, Ragna The Bloodedge Taokaka, Winnie The Pooh, Po, Viral, Jotaro Kujo, Luigi, Satsuki Kiryuin
  • Enemies: Nui Harime, Ragyo Kiryuin and the entire House of Hatred except Eren, Big Brother, Senator Armstrong, Darkseid,
  • Ryuko was glad to see her best friend ascend to the pantheon. Accompanying her was Kamina, Simon, and Viral.
  • Whenever she wears her goku uniform, Some of the cocky villains will receive a surprise comprised of a beatdown. In addition, some say that Jotaro Kujo was the one who secretly built it. Although the latter has denied the rumors, nonetheless, he is very impressed with her.
  • Her quirky attitude is what caused her to become friends with Taokaka. The similarities between the two include: hyperactivity, Big Eaters, and a rebel friend who is motivated by revenge.
02:03:40 PM Mar 20th 2014
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Anyone know what happened to Legion's profile? I was thinking of adding something to it but I can't seem to find it.

edit: I'm adding Legion back into this page. After spending sometime searching I couldn't find him in any other house nor did I find a replacement for his position.
01:16:53 AM Mar 13th 2014
I am new to this, so forgive for not seeing the reason why Dr. Hannibal Lecter, God Of Serial Killers, is in the house of mentalism instead of the house of crime. Serial killers are criminals so that seems more appropriate, I mean, wouldn't Hannibal Lecture be a mentalism trope better suited if he had to be in this house?
05:31:31 PM Oct 30th 2013
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Regarding Lucy: does she REALLY epitomize psychic powers above all other characters? Yes, her vectors are devastatingly powerful, but beyond telekinesis and a mental link to other Diclonius, she has no other abilities that could really be considered psychic.

That being said, we could perhaps follow up on something in her profile and get Raz an official spot. He has Lucy's telekinesis powers, on top of Astral Projection, Pyrokinisis, Psyblasts, Mind Rape in the form of his Confusion Grenades, Invisibility, a deflector shield, and clairvoyance. His powers encompass the full spectrum of what it could mean to be psychic, which is really what being a God of the Pantheon is: a shining example of a concept.

My suggestion is either make them co-gods or give Lucy another spot, because overall, she's not what I'd consider the pinnacle of Psychic Powers that would give her a spot like that when compared to other people even within the pantheon. I mean, look at Charles Xavier.
02:55:04 PM Oct 13th 2013
Is Patrick Jane joining the Pantheon as the God of Mentalists?
03:52:24 PM Nov 5th 2013
09:03:05 AM Sep 25th 2013
So, is there a reason why this house gets big, bolded, light blue labels for all the gods and the others don't?
09:32:00 AM Sep 25th 2013
Well... the house of Personal Appearance was the first to have that. Maybe other houses can follow suit later.
10:15:08 AM Sep 2nd 2013
After looking thru the halls of these mental house, This troper noticed that this house lacked a Chess Master. Hence, I would like to submit Petyr Bealish for the position. After this troper read the Song of Ice and Fire series, Petyr showed to be the chess master of chess masters. (Why he is, this troper, shall not say, for it would spoil most of the series, television and book.)So this troper asks for permission to add him.
05:20:45 AM May 25th 2013
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Since there are two to three gods for Fear already, I thought this could work here instead.

Pitch Black, God of Knowledge of Phobia (The Boogeyman, The Nightmare King, Kozmotis Pitchiner)
  • Rank: Demigod to potential Greater God. Pitch's power is directly related to the fear and belief of mortal people in his world, children especially.
  • Symbol: His form in shadow, alternately a nightmare
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: Knowing people's fears, Using dream sand after turning it to nightmares shaped like horses, using a scythe, turning from good, Dark Is Evil, Would Harm A Child, Break Them by Talking, Yellow Eyes of Sneakiness.
  • Domains: Fear, Childhood, Darkness
  • Followers: Darth Phobos, Trauma, Experement #300
  • Allies: Freddy Krugear, Arthas, Melkor, The Sinestro Corps., The Janitor
  • Enemies: NiGHTS, Nicholas St. North, Cosmos, The Green Lantern Corps.
  • Was considered for the title of God of Fear, but was disqualified when his own fear helped lead to his downfall.
  • Although both hold the title, Pitch feels himself more deserving of the name Boogeyman than Oogie Boogie. And for the record, he does not sing that song.
  • His throne has a bedframe in the back which covers an entrance into his personal layer, which connects him to every shadow of his world and others.
  • Has been more than a little disturbed at how several humans misinterpreted his conversation with Jack in Antartica.
  • His partnership with Freddie is symbiotic in nature. The more afraid a person is, the more likely they'll have nightmares. And the more nightmares a person suffers through, the more fear they produce, strenghtening both parties.

Any thoughts?
05:38:00 AM May 25th 2013
Put him in...?
10:54:43 PM Apr 27th 2013
As explained in the main trope pantheon discussion page, Goo is not a very well-known character to symbolize the power of Imagination, so I proposed having her replaced by Alice Liddell as she is more known by not just tropers but people everywhere.

I could write up her entry but I would like some veteran tropers to okay my idea.

12:33:58 PM Mar 23rd 2013
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Recently in Sinfest Seymore got hit with Cupid's arrow and got substantially nicer Should this be included? Also, considering his attitude towards Jesus I think Iron Closet Gay should be entered into his portfolio.
06:22:38 PM Mar 28th 2013
No reply in several days. Goonna do it.
02:21:01 PM Apr 2nd 2013
I have an idea for a replacement for him. Mr. Krabs.
05:08:34 PM Mar 20th 2013
It's nice that Applejack is there and all, but shouldn't the picture have both the current Applejack and the G1 Applejack as well? Considering the nature of the category she's in?
10:47:58 PM Apr 20th 2013
06:36:30 PM Mar 5th 2013
Monsoon... Memes? Don't we already have Suiseiseki and Souseiseki in the Knowledge house as the Goddesses for it?
05:12:50 AM Mar 6th 2013
Delete it if you wish. Although to point it out, seemingly both Jin Kisaragi and Peter Griffin share a title as Gods Of Jerkasses too.

I saw those two and assumed it was okay if we had that.
07:42:35 PM Mar 6th 2013
Second thought, no, that can stay. I'm just saying that we needed to get some clearance about double portfolio.
08:15:10 PM Mar 6th 2013
Added a bit of trivia to Monsoon's section to lampshade this. Is it okay?
11:17:08 PM Mar 6th 2013
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That's fine. Though that other one with War for Fun and Profit? You better search again, I think we already have Millenium there, famous for his "GENTLEMEN, I LOVE WAR" speech that solidifies his position.

And I don't mean delete, I meant lampshade on that one.
11:45:48 AM Nov 15th 2012
Maybe Alakazam as God of Super intelligent Animals
03:14:57 PM Sep 19th 2012
Like hell Sherlock Goddamn Holmes follows Adrian Monk. The former invented the very concept of a genius detective, surely he outranks such a recent imitation!
12:30:13 PM Mar 23rd 2013
Agreed, if anything Monk should be following Sherlock
03:09:48 AM Aug 22nd 2012
I feel Granny Weatherwax from Discworld should be in here somewhere,but I can't quite figure out what for. Any suggestions?
12:30:37 PM Mar 23rd 2013
11:21:21 PM Aug 12th 2012
I don't mind Itachi having a place here, but he needs a new title that expands beyond "Destroyer Of Plans". Because in the House of Philosophy, that title belonged to Leeroy Jenkins.
12:24:13 AM Jun 18th 2012
Why exactly is David Xanatos called a Fallen Lesser God? I do not see why.... In any case, he is not even on The Fallen page.
12:30:54 PM Mar 23rd 2013
It's all part of the plan
11:02:47 PM Mar 18th 2012
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Got an idea for Determined Defeatist.

Rika Furude, Goddes of Determined Defeatist
  • Lesser Goddess
  • Symbol: A Shinto Shrine
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Determined Defeatist, Miko, Really 700 Years Old, fatalists.
  • Domains: Good, Fate, Faith
  • Allies: Oyashiro-sama (bond of chain of command and by blood), Shion Sonozaki, Naruto, Valvatorez, Sol Bad Guy.
  • Enemies: Bernkastel, Terumi, Tzeentch.
  • Has been working with Oyashiro-sama to reform her faith and on a plan to destroy Bernkastel. That later one involves saving the other Rikas. Each successful save gradually weakens her power as Bernkastel is a manifestation of all the Rikas who died in the June 1983 time loop.
  • Made an alliance with Valvatorez and Sol Badguy as part of a plan to one day pull her friend out of The Fallen. They agreed, believing that all who are genuinely repentant deserve a second chance, even if they have to work off their sins first to do so.
06:17:26 PM May 7th 2012
Should we add Yu Narukami, the protanganist of Persona 4?
06:42:30 PM May 7th 2012
And what God should he be?
07:56:42 PM May 7th 2012
He should be in Family House for Big Brother Instinct.

This, however, gives him the notion to share with the current God of Brotherhood... Byakuya Kuchiki. Although his would be Aloof Big Brother, while Yuu would be for brothers that are not aloof.
04:08:21 AM Dec 20th 2011
Uh guys... Lelouch is already in the War Pantheon.... is he also supposed to be here?
08:12:46 PM Nov 20th 2011
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An idea for God of Insane Troll Logic

Mork, God of Insane Troll Logic.

09:05:01 PM Nov 20th 2011
Needs moar portfolio.
04:09:32 PM Nov 21st 2011
Updated the portfolio a bit, with appropriate orky expressions for the tropes in question.
08:28:00 PM Oct 1st 2011
Why is Neku's symbol a red player pin? Shouldn't be the black one?
08:44:09 AM Jul 5th 2011
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Why does Suzaku oppose Lelouch? Do the words Zero Requim count for nothing in the pantheon? Or at least, between the two who planned and were key parts in it?

If theres no clear reason for opposition (no, Euphie doesn't count, remember that Suzaku was loyal to the point of being Lelouch's right hand man so they clearly sorted that out) then I request that the opposition on both Lelouch and Suzaku in Unsorted be removed.
07:19:35 PM Jul 30th 2010
Judging by what happened in the recent Bleach chapter... Will Aizen be dethroned?
07:23:36 PM Jul 30th 2010
Wait for the next chapter; he may have another Deus ex Machina ace up his arm condom sleeve.
11:57:35 PM Jan 27th 2012
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From the looks of things, Aizen is finally down for the count. I guess we'll put it to a vote if he gets dethroned. At the very least can we stop putting his name in spoilers? The twist is long since reached Rosebud territory.
08:06:04 PM Aug 2nd 2012
Yes, PLEASE. Aizen betraying the Soul Society has become incredibly common knowledge.
09:17:28 PM Mar 22nd 2010
edited by Kulsprutejojjo
Ignore this, I should read the damn article before suggesting Waldo for the spot he already occupies!
09:48:25 PM Mar 22nd 2010
I guess he really is hard to pick out in a crowd...
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