Old Shame Film Discussion

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08:30:25 AM Apr 6th 2016

Removed the following examples - they could use some elaboration/expansion before being readded back in, as they sound like they were one person's view of the creator's feelings rather than something the creator actually said about the work in question:

The following have been moved to the Western Animation subpage, which will be sorted soon.

  • Yeardley Smith also isn't too keen on We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story, which she only did to break away from the Lisa Simpson image. Hell, We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story was an Old Shame for everyone who worked on it.
  • Ralph Bakshi is ashamed of Hey Good Lookin' and Cool World. The latter was ruined by Executive Meddling.
  • Considering it took Disney 13 years to release Doug's 1st Movie onto DVD and then pretty much used the TV edit on the official DVD as opposed to the regular movie, it seems like the studio more or less feels this way towards that movie.
  • Donnie Dunagan, the voice of the title character in Bambi as a child, kept the role a secret through his time in the Vietnam War serving as a Marine Corps boot camp commander, afraid the other soldiers wouldn't take him seriously and call him "Major Bambi." Eventually a marine discovered his secret, and he's been more open about the role since, even saying he now loves the attention the role brings him.
  • Jeffrey Katzenberg feels shame over Rise of the Guardians, though more over what it did for his company than for the quality of the film itself.
  • Richard Williams was so devastated at what happened to his flagship film The Thief and the Cobbler that he refused to acknowledge the film's existence for a long time.
  • Lisa Ortiz has admitted that she finds it "disturbing" that people have actually heard of Ratatoing, let alone watch it and review it.
  • Martin Vidnovic, who voiced The King in the animated version of The King and I, admits it was pretty bad. It was a bigger Old Shame for the Rodgers & Hammerstein estates, who were really displeased with the result of Richard Rich's Disneyfication of their work and prompting them to put out a mandate that no other musical from the estate can be adapted for animation.
  • Nobody at Pixar is fond of Cars 2, except for John Lasseter.
  • Chris Wedge and William Joyce felt that they needed more time to work on Robots.
  • For the longest time, Leonard Nimoy refused to even mention his participation in Transformers: The Movie, to the consternation of fans. His complete disavowal of all things Transformers-related finally cracked when he was convinced to voice Sentinel Prime in Transformers: Dark of the Moon.
    • Orson Welles wasn't terribly fond of the movie either, having done it for the money. When asked what role he played in the film, he said he was "a toy who does horrible things to other toys."
  • One of the animators is ashamed of Foodfight! and even said on Amazon:
    "I actually worked on this movie for a bit. It was one of my first jobs in the industry and let me tell you, if you think it was a train wreck viewing, you should have seen how terrible it was to work on it. The sad truth is there were plenty of talented people working there. many of those people moved on to major studios in both film, TV and games. The bottom line is the director, Larry Kasanoff is a talent-less, classless scumbag that should be banned from Hollywood until the end of time. All of the inappropriate innuendos are a direct product of his "creative hand". I cannot tell you how many times this moron derailed production with his brainless input. It literally has cost the studio millions of dollars. They eventually stepped in and removed him from the project. Unfortunately, that was a decade and millions of dollars late. I am so ashamed of this movie that I have completely left working there off of my resume. On behalf of the many artists that have had the dubious distinction of working on this dumpster fire, I apologize to all of humanity for our part in this."
  • Most of the recent 2D films from Disney (well, those released since Emperor's New Groove) are now considered old shames as well (with Lilo and Stitch being the arguable exception), especially Treasure Planet and Atlantis:The Lost Empire (they did not make Disney as much money as expected and merchandise for those films has become scarce).
  • Disney does everything in its power to make people forget about Song of the South, due to its Unfortunate Implications. This has led to some Adaptation Displacement for their Splash Mountain ride, which uses the characters from the animated segments. "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah" falls into the same boat; Disney still uses the song, and most people know it, but they don't know where it comes from.
    • For many years, Disney was also deeply ashamed of The Black Cauldron, a film that performed so horribly upon release that it nearly killed their animation department; and that's not even getting into the troubled production that saw it go through multiple edits to make it more palatable for audiences unfamiliar with its source material. A VHS release of the film was not granted until 1998, a full thirteen years after the movie's original release, and this was only after considerable pressure from the film's growing fanbase. Even with this and an eventual DVD release in 2010, the film remains virtually unseen among the studio's vast array of merchandise.
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