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Buspirtraz
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08:14:32 PM May 3rd 2015
edited by Buspirtraz
Five-Man Band

Could Styx be classified as this trope and if so, where exactly would they fit in each slot? (And I understand it's usually 1 slot/archetype per member.)

I'm thinking, like this (classic lineup)...

  • The Leader: Dennis DeYoung (Control Freak as noted on the main page)
  • The Lancer: Tommy Shaw (lead guitar, seemed to try to rock out what Dennis had in mind)
  • The Smart Guy: James "JY" Young (more philosophical, trying to resolve DeYoung and Shaw's conflicts with each other)
  • The Big Guy: John Panozzo (RIP, drums, seemed gregarious)
  • The Chick: Chuck Panozzo (wallflower type of bassist)

I'm also thinking JY could be The Heart (mediator of conflicts) and Chuck as The Smart Guy (founder of Styx).

What do you guys think?
SeptimusHeap
12:05:05 AM May 4th 2015
Not an example, I'd say. Male The Chick is not this trope.
Buspirtraz
05:41:19 AM May 5th 2015
Okay. Part of me is thinking The Chick can be different from The Heart in that The Heart is more mediator-like than The Chick, and I didn't see Chuck as The Heart as much as I did see that trope in JY. I also didn't see Chuck as The Smart Guy as much as JY because I didn't find Chuck writing a lot of the Styx songs, his co-founding of Styx notwithstanding. (John is a little more raucous, thus The Big Guy to me.)

I know a male Chick is not supposed to make the Five-Man Band trope, but I'm seeing the Five-Man Band/Music page and seeing bands with male members listed as The Chick...

You know what? Since some people don't like finger-pointing at other offenders and the trope page is still saying No Male Chicks allowed for that trope, I'm going to offer this for Styx as a Five-Man Band (again, classic lineup):

  • The Leader: Dennis DeYoung (Control Freak as noted on the main page)
  • The Lancer: Tommy Shaw (lead guitar, the renegade-rocker Foil to the showman/operatic Dennis)
  • The Smart Guy: James "JY" Young (more philosophical, trying to resolve DeYoung and Shaw's conflicts with each other)
    • Sometimes, Chuck could be this trope as a co-founder of Styx with John and Dennis.
  • The Big Guy: John Panozzo (RIP, drums, seemed gregarious and raucous)
  • The Heart: Chuck Panozzo (kept things at a steady [[Pun beat]] as bassist, more reserved than John, co-founder of Styx, more Styx members being supportive of Chuck going part-time then having Dennis take control of the band once again in the 1990s)
    • JY could also be this trope sometimes to mediate conflicts between Dennis and Tommy.
SeptimusHeap
07:59:18 AM May 5th 2015
You can post that here, by the way.
Buspirtraz
04:50:59 PM May 7th 2015
Septimus Heap, I flipped through that thread, and since there are no female members that I can recall, and FastEddie is set on 1-2 female members in FMB (here), I'm probably going to change that to The Team because I'm thinking that there may be a possibility of 3-4 people who qualify as The Smart Guy, maybe all 5 of them. (So, there's shoehorning, no-no for FMB according to that thread.)

How each can be The Smart Guy (Shoehorning, thus The Team rather than Five-Man Band):
  • Dennis DeYoung: Managing to write #1 hit "Babe".
  • Tommy Shaw: Co-writing songs.
  • James "JY" Young: mechanical and aerospace engineering degree from Illinois Institute of Technology
  • The Panozzo Brothers (Chuck and John): Their co-founding of Styx
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