At this point, it's pretty safe, I think to refer to Mako-chan as a girl, given she came out to her mom in Chapter 113.

I am in favor of addressing the characters as their true and proper genders, seeing as this is a niche fandom about transsexuals I feel it is fitting that Nitori Shuuichi be referred to as female consistently and Takatsuki Yoshino be referred to as male consistently. I'm linking the page where we discussed and showed a majority interest int supporting this change, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?type=att.

My feeling, as it has always been, is that we should use pronouns matching their physical gender. No special reason for this beyond simplicity. Though there is the added fact that the story itself, in Japanese and official English translations alike, uses the physical gender pronouns.

Were this a Wandering Son fansite or even a fan-made wikia or something, I wouldn't argue the point. But TV Tropes is a site for general info that anyone and everyone can and does read. To this end, in my honest opinion, using their "proper gender" pronouns over their physical gender pronouns makes things needlessly confusing for any random reader who happens to come by. And that's without getting into Makoto, who is apparently referred to as "zhe". Honestly, who outside of the transgender community will even be aware of that and not just assume it's some oddly consistent typo?

Not to mention that some of the entries make zero sense when read out loud with proper pronouns, such as Double Standard, where it would read as if a girl is being punished for wearing a girl's uniform when a boy got away for dressing as a boy.

Why not add a notation explaining why it's preferred within the transgendered community to use one set of gender pronouns?

I still say we refer to the by the proper pronouns. It's common courtesy.

Also it's "ze".

I am a giant fan of Wandering Son and have been following it every month since volume 1 was released in Japan. And I'm a transsexual. While it's important to refer to transsexuals as their preferred gender identity, I have to agree with the notion that it's only natural to use the pronouns the series uses for its own characters when discussing it.

The drama is wrapped up entirely in the main characters trying to make sense of their confusion, and feeling like there's no space for their feelings in a society that makes sex and gender inextricable and binary. Shuu and Takatsuki as characters, they have never concerned themselves with this kind of LGBT activism and terminology (like ze and hir), the latter which I don't think exists in Japan, probably since it's not as difficult to speak gender neutral in Japanese. Wandering Son has never really been about these issues. It's always been more about the melancholy and internal conflict of living with GID. The drama is accurate and cuts to the bone of anyone that has ever had these feelings, but it's really quite light hearted compared to the harrowing abuse trans people commonly receive.

It's also a little unfair to make the assumption about some of these characters. We still don't have any real evidence that Makoto is genderqueer other than that he wore girl clothes as an elementary schooler and very seldom wears them in adolescence. He even said in an early chapter that he wonders if he just wants to be a girl because he likes men. Even Takatsuki's gender identity hasn't been fully defined as (s)he doesn't often make clear statements on it and skirts with the idea of being more feminine fairly often.

But the main characters clearly see themselves to be a man and a woman that are uncomfortable with the gender assigned to them, and only Shuu thus far has really shown resolve to transition. All they know is what they feel, what everyone in their life has told them about who they are, and what their bodies say about their sex. Which is about all children and teenagers with GID usually know, if they even know that much. Considering the syntax of the series, and the context of the series, and how confusing it'd be to new readers and viewers, it'd be fine to continue using the assigned pronouns. There's little reason to drag real world politic into this.

Yes, it's cruel to deny a transgender or transsexual their preferred gender identity, yes studies suggest a neurological basis for Gender Identity Disorder, etc. But making the article of a manga and anime a battleground for these hot button issues is only going to serve to alienate people from it, and it's really quite needless here.

Maybe we can skirt around pronouns then (use things like "they" and their names), and delete gendered tropes for Takatsuki and Nitori?

Trying out a "test run" of sorts of that style in the series description.

No, it's not an example (it was used for "cute young boy"), so there's no reason to put it back in.

Already done. It just needs more editors to help with adding tropes.

I see no reason for the series not to have one either.

I would say that, whatever their preferences and mindsets, Shu & Yoshino are still male and female respectively. That, and the fact that the story's all about him and her wanting to be her and him, leads me to feel that using their physical gender pronouns is the way to go. Otherwise things just get confusing. Especially when an entry would only refer to "Nitori" since then it becomes possible to mix up Shu & Maho.

I'd say the same. Also everyone in the series including themselves (at least in Shuu's case) keep referring to them by their biological sense. And she-Nitori makes Maho.

So pleeeaaaseee, stop "correcting"?

A lot of fans of the series seem to completely fail to understand that the series is about two transsexuals...

The Mangafox forums have a lot of comments about Nitori being gay, how she should stay male, and things like that.

Also, I think it should be added to the fandumb section that the same occurs to Takatsuki. Many fans comment that she is lesbian, and that she will stay female, and things like that; when we haven't had any real evidence of her having a crush for... anyone, yet she is more doubted to be transsexual than Nitori

Well, there is "her" comment in chapter 90...

Hourou Musuko is trying to have depth. Of course as a young transsexual you go through points of denial and confusion. It's a drama, so of course it will explore different moods they go through.