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julyjack73
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03:22:21 PM Jun 30th 2011
I believe some of this is because popular things have more views, and therefore more complaints
Gundamforce
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11:31:01 PM Apr 5th 2011
Considering that True Art Is Not Popular redirects to this page, I'm proposing to make that a trope of it's own as an Inverted Trope to this here. Could really use some feedback or if it's feasable.
DonZabu
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12:13:19 AM Feb 26th 2011
A wee bit less railing might be nice.
DoctorNemesis
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04:04:49 PM Dec 22nd 2010
Took the liberty of chopping this:

  • There are FAR too many people who call themselves true fans of Blue Öyster Cult because they saw the More Cowbell skit. Oh yeah, "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" isn't their only song. So help me, when I see these fools, I wish nothing more than to strike them down with the "Black Blade", then send them on the "Hot Rails to Hell" to the "Cities On Flame". Then I'll look upon them from my "Workshop of the Telescopes" while "Donovan's Monkey" is with me.

The complaint may be valid — I honestly don't know enough about the band to comment, although I did try to rework the example based on the core issue — but we don't really need the personal commentary.
BobThePizzaBoy
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05:49:17 AM Nov 30th 2010
Would this count? When I was in my early high school years, I was really into the musical Little Shop of Horrors and my peers often looked at me like I was nuts for liking it so much. When my high school's Drama Club did the show as our musical, the show was a MASSIVE success [if my high school's shows were Disney movies in terms of success, Little Shop would be The Lion King, that's how big this show was]. Suddenly the whole school was obsessed with Little Shop for over a year after the show. People were raving the production non-stop, singing Little Shop songs in the hallways, saying we should just do Little Shop as the school musical every year, etc. It was it to point that during the musical we did the year after [which was Once Upon a Mattress if you care], we were lucky if the theater was 50% full during performances, because people kept unfairly comparing it to Little Shop. Eventually I just got so tired of hearing about it I can't stand Little Shop of Horrors anymore. If that's It's Popular, Now It Sucks I don't know what is.
Gundamforce
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06:40:52 PM Nov 11th 2010
edited by Gundamforce
Stop it with the edit war with the Bioware example. The trope is about disliking things because they have become popular or disliking things because they are popular, not about actual changes to the game. That stuff would go to They Changed It, Now It Sucks, not here.
azul120
09:47:09 PM Nov 11th 2010
From the article opener:

"In some cases, it's not an unreasonable complaint if the quality of the work begins to suffer as a result of the artist's popularity. If the artist begins to squander their talent or water down what made it interesting to make it acceptable to the Lowest Common Denominator, or Pandering to the Base rather than expanding themselves as artists in the process, then it's not unreasonable that the fans might start crying foul."

I think this is just as applicable to Dragon Age II as They Changed It, Now It Sucks is.
Gundamforce
06:28:51 PM Nov 12th 2010
edited by Gundamforce
From the article opener:

However, in too many cases, the cry of "It's Popular Now, It Sucks!" is more about snobbery than anything else. When the artist was a small name or a cult favorite, being one of their fans felt like being in an exclusive little club, but now membership has been opened up to the 'sheep', the original fans may feel a lot less special. Alternatively, some critics seem to enjoy the attention that comes from criticizing something popular, or feeling more intelligent and superior about being the only ones capable of possessing the high standards not to "follow the herd".

That's what this trope is about. This page is meant for mere snobbery, Fan Dumb, and Hate Dumb. This could possibly be aided by changes like the Call of Duty example, but still the main reason is for the snobbery. It's here because this is seen way too much in Bioware's forum; which seems to negate any valid changes, and because of Bioware's Unpleasable Fanbase so that's why it's here.
azul120
07:30:34 PM Nov 12th 2010
While that is true, both cases can be applied to the longtime BioWare fandom: those who feel like they've sold out and those who are being elitists.
Gundamforce
04:30:39 PM Nov 23rd 2010
edited by Gundamforce
I edited it to mention both cases. Lets keep it neutral and leave it at that please. This edit war is getting ridiculous.
azul120
07:06:22 PM Nov 23rd 2010
I meant that to be the final edit anyways. I forgot to leave an edit note regarding other examples (namely Modern Warfare 2) getting justifications. Both sides of the argument are covered here, so I agree the entry can stay pretty much as is.
Brutal
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07:24:25 PM Jun 30th 2010
The World of Warcraft entry doesn't seem to fit. The trope is about disliking things because they have become popular, but the entry talks about actual changes to the game.

It's like the difference between a company hiring more employees, and everyone in the company's wages being reduced because of said employees.
Gundamforce
01:56:20 PM Sep 17th 2010
Fixed
71.212.69.212
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04:37:03 AM Jun 22nd 2010
Silent Hill 2 Entry
71.212.69.212
04:41:30 AM Jun 22nd 2010
Can someone change this guys Silent Hill 2 entry? It's ironic because it's a pretentious piece of fun dumb like self gratification, many of the things he complained about Silent Hill 2 are actually canonically true (word of God and all that). I know TV tropes is some serious Snark Bait all it's own, but this guys entry is malicious beyond all reason. SH 2 is pretty widely considered to be an artistic game even outside the fan community, he doesn't seem to be making a common sense argument either so...
71.212.69.212
04:51:31 AM Jun 22nd 2010
I mean to say he seems to be on the actual 'It's popular now it sucks' bandwagon. Something the page itself seems to look down upon unless justified by the series taking a turn for the worse... which it didn't, and certainly didn't make itself more accessible for audiences. While that's arguably his point, the fact remains that it's popular among gaming critics who frequently put it on top ten lists for horror games. (Not exactly the pretentious art crowd anyway) It should be seen as colossal achievement in that regard... I would think.

It's not like the David Lynche inspired first game (all of them are) made any more sense, and could be seen as an excuse plot for nonsense horror.
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