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Candi Sorcerer in training Since: Aug, 2012
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May 4th 2019 at 12:53:36 AM •••

This example needs to 1) be broken up into two and 2) given specific examples. There are plenty, especially for the Grimms, who further and further sanitized the stories in each edition they were republished in.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 19th 2015 at 12:41:06 AM •••

Given that many of the examples on the page are actually examples of Fanon rather than the trope described, does this page need clean-up?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain. Hide / Show Replies
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 19th 2015 at 1:02:13 AM •••

Drawing a distinction between the two in my mind is more important. I am not myself 100% sure.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RogueJedi Since: Oct, 2015
May 6th 2016 at 7:06:20 AM •••

Definitely. Very few of these examples seem to actually be people believing someone with no real authority over canon.

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
Apr 2nd 2015 at 3:09:05 AM •••

Removed:

  • A subset of Silent Hill fans insist on the interpretation of Vincent's line "They look like monsters to you?" from part 3 that Heather is violently insane and has been spending the entire game butchering innocent people, undeterred by the fact that this scenario makes no damned sense at all from a narrative or gameplay standpoint.

Word of Dante is about the fans treating a third-party source as if it's canon. This example is about fans subscribing to a different interpretation of a line which was spoken in canon, and therefore Not An Example.

It would fit as Alternative Character Interpretation, though.

Gillimer Since: May, 2011
Feb 17th 2015 at 8:25:06 AM •••

Just where did the idea of Santa Claus living at "the North Pole" come from?

I vaguely remember old references to Santa living in Lappland... hence the reindeer.

CelticKnot Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 18th 2012 at 3:33:10 PM •••

The section on Religion and Mythology is super nattery right now. I'm not a Biblical scholar, but it looks like it could use some Repair Dont Respond magic.

ZeitgeistGlee Since: Apr, 2009
Apr 10th 2011 at 4:35:43 PM •••

"The Star Wars Expanded Universe is not canon" is incorrect, Lucas stated numerous times his position is that his personal universe does not include the post ROTJ EU but that this is not the official universe, LFL's is. Editing the main page to reflect this.

WiseBass Since: Sep, 2010
Sep 24th 2010 at 8:31:51 AM •••

I killed the "Draco Trilogy" example, mostly because it sounds more like "Fanon" than "Word of Dante" (most fans don't consider Draco to be a "deadpan snarker).

griffinmills Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 13th 2010 at 6:26:19 PM •••

I don't think there are many people that believe, logically, that Aeris actually does live. I think there are plenty of people interested in the little clues and buried treasures in the code of Final Fantasy 7 that indicated, at one point, she was intended to live if steps were taken etc. Plenty of people WANT her to live and write up fiction, etc, about it though, yes.

griffinmills Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 13th 2010 at 6:22:09 PM •••

Really? I'm just going to write it out long hand as "literary criticism friendly."

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 26th 2010 at 4:04:24 PM •••

To Anonymous Mccartneyfan's question, "Who's the Dante for this?", I have no answer. But I don't think the question is all-important, so I restored the cut examples.

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AnonymousMcCartneyfan Since: Jan, 2001
May 1st 2010 at 3:02:14 PM •••

Sorry about that... <sad face<

I consider the question important because the existence of at least one Dante is one of the key methods of differentiating Word of Dante from Fanon.

Let's put it in more high-falutin' terms: it's one thing to say that a certain "Biblical" tenet is apocryphal. It's another to be able to name the part of the Apocrypha it's in.

Or, to put it a third way: take the Star Trek Expanded Universe (please)! Until recently, none of it was technically canonical. That said, any given piece is taken much more seriously, esp. post-TNG, if it is in an officially licensed Paramount book, if only because Paramount has stricter standards about its Star Trek books than it does about the actual series.

There is a fine line between recklessness and courage — Paul McCartney
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