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10:39:38 PM Sep 2nd 2017
Could someone change WMG.TV Tropes Wiki to just WMG.TV Tropes? The former link is a redirect to the latter, and that messes up the indexing.
05:04:42 PM Sep 3rd 2017
You should ask in the locked page thread, the mods don't always check the discussion pages
10:25:07 AM Nov 26th 2015
Is there any particular reason why "sorted" WM Gs are separated from the others?
06:24:41 PM Sep 18th 2015
I wanted to do something for an Unbreakable WMG, but I had an issue where I couldn't put a spoiler tag in the first line without everything else dropping to the next line. Could anyone tell me how to set it so a WMG can start with a spoiler and have more text after it?
02:23:17 AM Sep 19th 2015
Not sure why you want to put a spoiler tag on a WMG page.
01:09:01 PM Sep 20th 2015
The WMG entry I put on has to deal with the twist ending. I don't think it would spoil anything, but I just want to be safe.
11:55:58 AM Aug 23rd 2015
I just wanna know, do you add new theories at the bottom or the top of a folder?
02:17:20 AM Aug 24th 2015
Bottom, I think.
12:56:06 PM Jul 4th 2015
Before I got my TV Tropes account, I used to create theory videos and post them on YouTube. I want to put my theories here as well, but how should I do it? I was thinking I could paraphrase the video, and then put a link to the video at the top of the WMG. But what should I say in the link?
10:16:55 AM Mar 3rd 2015
Could someone add Radio to the index, please? Thanks.
11:35:47 AM Mar 3rd 2015
Done. Might want to ask here in the future.
10:18:00 AM Jan 12th 2013
Hey, can we Pot Hole that memetic sentence at the top of the main page? I'm a Puella Magi Madoka Magica fan so I'm pretty aware that's a local meme for us.
01:03:00 PM Jan 12th 2013
Go for it.
02:00:14 PM Jul 3rd 2012
Reddit has a whole subforum dedicated to these: Would it make sense to include a link somewhere?
02:53:26 PM Jul 3rd 2012
Yes. In fact, you should just add a line to the bottom of the description for this.
05:35:28 PM Mar 28th 2012
edited by Sinus
(never mind)
10:02:39 PM Dec 8th 2011
So, I just had a WMG I posted be removed because it mentioned Alzheimer's Disease and someone came along and called Dude, Not Funny! (even though it was not meant to be funny in the first place, obviously). My response to them was kind of vicious, but fairly appropriate in my opinion (probably not anyone else's). Anyway, later that day, the whole theory was deleted. Upon coming back and discovering this, I put it back with a disclaimer that it's not supposed to be lighthearted or funny. It seems reasonable to me that WMG's should be allowed to be dark and potentially offensive. I know that a lot of people complain about how TV Tropes "is not Wikipedia" and whatnot, but not even Wikipedia is censored. No wiki should be censored. Nevertheless, I'd like to know if there's any kind of standard for things like this around here. Are we allowed to make guesses that mention sensitive issues, if we're not trying to be intentionally offensive? The nature of the guess was not anything insulting; I imagine the only reason anyone was offended was because they can't even handle when Alzheimer's is brought up at all.
10:25:35 PM Aug 9th 2011
edited by pittsburghmuggle
I'd like to suggest people who have seen an entire show/movie franchise/book series go into the WM Gs for that show and try to sort them out into folders per season/movie/book.

My reasoning is when people overcome their Archive Panic begin to tackle a Door Stopper of a story/series you typically have to wait until you are completely finished to read the WM Gs, but this can take a while as you wait for the next DVD set come into the library or can afford the next one. For example, Stargate SG-1 is 10 seasons I am trying to get through, and I am 5 along, (waiting for the jerk who's late returning season 6!) and wouldn't mind reading a few of the earlier on WMG's in the meantime - if they were in a neat order and I didn't have to worry about spoiling myself.

I've already started what I would like on two WMG pages: Flash Forward and Falling Skies. But if you have seen every episode of a long runner and want to tackle the page, I think a lot of people working their way along would appreciate it.
07:40:34 AM Jul 29th 2011
I'm trying to make a WMG page for an anime called No. 6, but since the name is weird so it's not working right. The .//Hack page works, so I know it's not impossible because of the title. Can someone help me?
10:30:37 PM Aug 9th 2011
You just go up to the


in the browser bar and replace the "Main" with "WMG" to make it:

And then just press enter. That's what I do.
08:14:00 PM Jan 7th 2011
What happened to the folders? :/ Subpages weren't really particularly necessary, IMO.
09:14:51 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Is there a maximum amount of guesses that the page can accommodate? Bleach once crashed the server, and the Naruto page seems to be getting dangerously close and new additions aren't taking consistently.
01:14:14 PM Dec 28th 2010
Currently, any page that has reached more than 400,000 characters (which can be seen by looking at the number on the very bottom of any TV Tropes article) is in danger of causing issues, be they server problems, folderization problems, or page breaks.

There is a current effort going on to split pages over this size, which you can read up on here. Several WMG articles have already been split due to this, including this one.
08:29:32 PM Sep 13th 2010
OK, so we're not supposed to delete Jossed guesses. What do we do with confirmed ones? And where do we put "serious" speculation?
07:49:57 AM Sep 24th 2010
edited by FastEddie
In the forums, if you like, or here. Serious Sincere conjecture can be here. It's just not the main point. In fact, a little bit of 'real' makes the faux funnier.
05:48:27 PM Jan 28th 2011
edited by Scarab
Honestly? I often like the theories that make sense just as much as the off the wall hilarious ones, and sometimes theories that seem utterly crackpot turn out to be right, so then what? It's not a wild guess anymore if it's true. Also not everyone regularly visits, or desires to visit the forums.

Couldn't we... I dunno, have a completely seperate section for "Not entirely madcap, fairly sensible, but still pretty wild until you think about it" examples?
05:03:55 PM Apr 9th 2010
edited by FastEddie
(Copied from archived discussion)

Hats off, for a moment. The premise of this section of the wiki is that the theories being offered are being taken seriously, at least by one nutcase. This is what is known as a comedic premise. The theories are not meant to be 'serious.' The entries are written as if someone believes them.

If you are tempted to make an entry refuting a theory, the discussion pages are there for that purpose. The article itself should be used for tongue-in-cheek "proofs" and "evidence" supporting the theory, or for yet wilder theories.

Some folks have been missing the joke, so we've put up this programme note to make it clear. You may now put your tinfoil hat back on.

Updated by Fast Eddie, to make it as plain as possible that the theories are not 'serious.'
10:18:32 AM Feb 2nd 2012
Considering how seriously some folks take Death of the Author, saying osh (me) as the creator originally of WMG, What eddie said is mostly true. As for my intent when I made the page...

WMG are only "serious" in the sense that you could work a case for it being true based on points of logic within the frame of the story, even if the total end logic is obviously reaching (Such as the famous St. Elsewhere theory). The idea is me and you KNOW it's not what's probably intended, but the fun of trying to tease it out as if it was. That said, it's NOT a race to come up with the most monkeycheese combination of things in an attempt to be wacky.

For example, "Bowser Jr being Peach's Mother" is appropriate because it's never denied and could "logically" explain certain things, even if it's obviously not true for the tone of the game. plus it happens to be funny. "So-an-so-not-related-at-all-to-Dr-Who is related to obscure-Dr-Who-thing" is a dumb joke that never goes farther than referencing you know a thing.

Real WM Gs in my experience comes almost entirely from bending fanon to its breaking point when fans have a fun back-and-forth and ENTIRELY SELF-AWARE arguing about minutae of people who don't technically exist yet we are treating them as they are and live in a necessarily "real" universe whether its appropriate or not.

That said, WMG _can_ be non-comedic or outright dark if you're still pushing for them to be amusing (entertaining in the intellectual standpoint) in the context of whatever canon is, but for the same reason, arbitrarily including gross or dark themes is just as bad as monkeycheese nonsense.

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