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cclospina
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08:28:49 AM Feb 4th 2011
edited by cclospina
deleted some examples, because it is assumed that the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist is a "Comedy Antiheroes.".

Erc Cartman, Blackadder, Zim and Bender, are Villain Protagonists, not Antiheroes.
Tyoria
08:52:48 AM Feb 4th 2011
edited by Tyoria
I think you're being too literal. The description does not say the character is an antihero. It says they are a counterpart to an antihero. One of the main functions of an antihero is that they serve as a contrast to a regular hero. The Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist is a "counterpart" because they likewise contrast against the typically sympathetic version.

The words "unsympathetic comedy protagonist" are ridiculously apt for describing all of those characters. They are protagonists. They are comedic. And they are very, very unsympathetic. How does deleting them help? Why not work the description instead?
Jordan
08:55:53 AM Feb 4th 2011
Blackadder is in a long line of British unsympathetic comedy protagonists. Characters definitely shouldn't be deleted on ^^ those grounds.
Tyoria
09:33:56 AM Feb 4th 2011
I edited the description and added the other examples back.
ading
09:19:32 AM Mar 27th 2011
edited by ading
The edited description says it's a Jerk Ass in comedy who you're supposed to root for anyway. You're generally not supposed to root for a Villain Protagonist. So it still sounds like at least a type of comedy antiheroes, if not just any comedy antihero. The person being too literal is you, Tyoria.
Tyoria
02:02:47 AM Apr 27th 2012
The point cclospina's making goes back to the mess we had at the Sliding Scale Of Antiheroes. Over there it is stipulated that a character being labeled an "antihero" meant they had not gone past a certain "evil threshhold" that would have taken them into a new category of "villain". So the contention here is that because the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist page said a UCP was comparable to an antihero, by extension a UCP should never overlap with Villain Protagonist. Do you honestly think characters should be disqualified as a UCP based on some nebulous "evilness rating" that hardly anyone agrees on?

Besides, you can often root for a Villain Protagonist or are at least not explicitly discouraged from doing so.
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