Main Unintentional Period Piece Discussion

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06:26:02 PM Jun 9th 2018
Removing the Persona 5 example since it relies only on its use of Populism, which, while relevant to the 2015-2017 period, is not particularly striking; democracies have always had populist movements, and probably will for a long time. Furthermore, the game is highly stylized with retro color motifs (borderline Russian Suprematist at times), is based in rather dated JRPG systems from a decades old series, and uses a soundtrack that doesn't reflect the 2010s at all (it's largely acid-jazzy).
09:50:51 AM Feb 13th 2018
edited by MathsAngelicVersion
Found a dubious example:

  • Maui's line "When you write with a bird it's called 'tweeting'" line from Moana is likely going to be lost upon by people born after Twitter becomes a relic. Even many viewers at the time of the film felt it was awkward.

A single joke isn't enough to make a work an Unintentional Period Piece. Also, future audiences who don't know about Twitter will just assume it's a pun on "tweeting" (as in "the birds are tweeting").
12:19:14 PM Jun 29th 2017
It feels like the page is almost filled with shoehorned 2010s examples, like with "instantly dated" ringing whatnot.
12:42:15 PM Sep 2nd 2017
Yep, looking both at this page and We're Still Relevant, Dammit! it seems like the average troper thinks that everything released in the last 10 years is nothing more than a meme that lasts two months or so. Like: iPhone? Outdated 2007 meme! Selfies? Outdated 2014 meme! Nintendo 3DS? Outdated 2011 meme! Facebook? Outdated 2008 meme!
08:49:33 AM Dec 21st 2017
this page really shouldn't even have examples since it's all "this has this fashion/slag/etc used in X year therefore it's an unintentional period piece" . Based on these criteria, every work is a period piece.
08:35:09 AM Aug 4th 2015
I've added the following paragraph to the intro:

Important Sidenote: To avoid questionable examples, do not add a work less then 8 years old unless the situation is especially unusual. (Being completely overtaken by events by time of airing, and being called "instantly dated" by the press have both qualified in the past.)

If there's any comment about the wording, timing, or examples of what constitutes an "acceptable exception", I'd like to hear them.
02:10:45 AM Aug 5th 2015
Was there discussion about this?
11:07:28 PM Aug 5th 2015
The article has always had a comment to a similar effect for the 2000s and 2010s, IIRC and AFAICT, but since the threshhold for the 2000s has already been met, I figured we needed something a bit more general purpose.

I've already started a discussion at . But I figured I should have one here, as well.
09:48:12 PM Dec 30th 2015
I know I'm late to the party, but "period piece" goes both ways. Older references zing over the heads of younger consumers - BUT newer references zing over the heads of older consumers, too. So references from modern times are accurate - and besides, Examples Are Not Recent.

I'll add a little about that.
12:35:40 AM Apr 1st 2014
Took out the following temporarily for having no context - they need a better explanation:

01:25:35 PM Dec 23rd 2013
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Do time-travel movies referencing "the present" really count as unintentional period pieces? Think about it- in order to establish the difference between "the present" at the time the movie was released- which may be identified like the 1985 of Back to the Future, or vague like Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home which suggests only a vague "late 20th century" (but, based on a few clues- like the news story about the nuclear arms talks stalling, Scotty's attempts to use a Mac Plus- can be dated pretty firmly to 1986)- you need to set the scene and show how "the present" is different from "the past" or "The Future" (whatever time period that may be).
01:38:23 PM Mar 5th 2013
Removed references to Friends and expanded on Seinfeld. Apart from the fashion, there's very little in Friends that could only happen in the 90s. Seinfeld, by contrast, has multiple episodes where a modern viewer can't help but be baffled that nobody's making the ten second phone call it would take to fix this. There's also references to Moviefone and the Steinbrenner era of the Yankees, and so on and so forth. Much more of its time.
02:32:12 PM Jan 18th 2013
How do you guys feel about works that maybe aren't super exaggerated, but clearly show their age based on how their plots wouldn't work in the modern age? I'm thinking of The Westing Game, which I just re-read for the first time since fifth grade (which was mmmfgh years ago). It was first published in 1978, and while it's not obviously dated, there are some parts that just couldn't happen today. For example, the precocious twelve-year-old plays the stock market, but has to actually go a broker and watch the ticker tape to get real-time prices. Plus, the plot hinges on a lot of Two Aliases, One Character which I can't imagine would be easy (or even possible) to conceal today. Thoughts?
10:19:48 AM Nov 7th 2012
There's still a lot of Square Peg, Round Trope here, making the trope pretty much meaningless ... right now the trope seems to be "there is some indication of a work's time of origin," which is effectively meaningless.

Is this trope "it is easily possible to tell when the work is set," or it it "the work is so saturated with its decade that it looks like they were doing it deliberately"? A lot a lot a LOT of these entries aren't about saturation, but about "oh, the World Trade Center is visible in the opening credits" or "someone mentions the USSR." And the one about how people who have studied freeway design can tell when a freeway was constructed ... that doesn't even approach close.
08:50:29 AM Dec 21st 2017
I agree, this page should have no examples
11:14:57 PM Aug 17th 2012
This article could use a lot of clean-up. There are tons of examples without explanation, and quite a few intentional examples (current events shows like "Saturday Night Live" and "The Daily Show") which completely miss the point of the first word of the trope. Do I have permission to go at it like Dan Brown's editor clearly doesn't?
01:56:16 AM Aug 18th 2012
You always have permission to fix bad examples. Go for it.
09:43:22 PM Jul 1st 2012
I removed this entry from 1980s TV:

The first few seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation, before it grew the beard.

because that should be on the page for Zeerust instead. It also should be clearer as to why it's being listed.
10:17:56 AM Jun 19th 2012
  • Many plays by William Shakespeare were set in a time period that the original viewers during the Elizabethan era would find familiar. Nowadays, times have changed to the point where the dialect of Shakespeare's characters is frequently mistaken for Old English (which actually has more in common with German than modern English).

How many? I'm not an expert, but a lot of his plays seem to be historical or based on myths.
03:36:17 PM Feb 12th 2013
Indeed. His plays are full of anachronisms — for instance, the mechanicals in AMND are much more Elizabethan than Greek, but still the setting of the play is Ancient Greece. In fact, I can't think of a single Shakespeare play that is actually set in Elizabethan England.

08:59:43 PM Mar 10th 2012
edited by Maxaxle
There's a car, the Chevrolet Confederate BA Deluxe Sport Coupe, with the spokes, lines, chrome, and overall aesthetic of a 1950's car, except it was made in 1932 and sold very poorly as a result (it had all of the limitations of a '30s car)....would that fit here? EDIT: Actually, yeah it would.
06:13:56 PM Jun 4th 2011
"Hair focused heavily on The Sixties while while they were still going on, but did so intentionally."

If it did so intentionally, does it still count as an example for this trope?
06:45:36 AM Dec 23rd 2011
not only that, I see a lot of examples that are explicitly set in the era they were created in Back To The Future Being a perfect example. That doesn't really sound unintentional to me. Red Dawn is an an unintentional period piece the adventure of Marty and Doc aren't.
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