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01:28:07 AM Jul 25th 2015
edited by AgProv
Finding it amusing that there is one stray reference on the main page to a person called Chris Langham (in the context of the BBC turning embarrassing people into Unpersons) but no clue whatever, for the uninitiated, as to who Langham was, what he did to become famous, and the circumstances in which he became Unpersonned.

Looking into the page history, I discovered (well, remembered - turns out I wrote it, some years ago...) that in a previous version of the page there WAS such an explanatory entry concerning Langham, but it was later deleted for whatever reason.

You really have to be going some to be Unpersonned from a tvtropes entry about people being Unpersonned in real life.... self-fulfilling page, or else recurson in action?
01:41:09 AM Jul 25th 2015
edited by AgProv
Found it:

  • Comic actor Chris Langham has been totally airbrushed out of BBC history following his conviction on a relatively minor charge of possessing child pornography. (Even the prosecution conceded that no children had been harmed by Langham and his only sin was looking at some relatively tame pictures). Despite his not insignificant contributions to British comedy, including being a founder member of the Not The Nine O'Clock News team and several series in his own right, Langham was portrayed as a temperamental prima donna with mental health issues in a BBC comedy documentary.

Deleted on 16/12/13 by nwoods92, edit reason being " Removed what seemed like a pretty biased statement - dude was sentenced to 10 months for the crime, that's not a light offense..."

Yes, but that's a reason for correcting the entry, not "unpersonning" it... and current practice in similar cases would be to not imprison the person, but to insist they receive mandatory treatment. Still a crime, but at this low level of offence therapy is now seen as a more effective remedy than imprisonment.

As I now recall I reinstated this one not on main page (so as to avoid flame wars) but on YMMV, as on this one our M really did V. (Done thousands of edits: hard to keep track!)
07:18:36 AM Jul 14th 2015
Would Konami's recent practice of removing all references of Kojima from Metal Gear Solid V (from the name of his production company on its logo to the removal of said logo from the game's cover) count?
08:33:05 AM Jul 14th 2015
08:52:01 PM Apr 6th 2015
How about the removal of references about Earth in the Foundation sequels by Isaac Asimov?
01:04:18 AM Apr 7th 2015
08:29:25 PM Jul 8th 2013
I deleted this edit and moved it here- I don't think it really has much to do with the trope and goes against the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment:

  • Anti-abortion activists accuse Abortion advocates of doing this to the status of unborn infants. Under the pro-life view, abortion is tantamount to infanticide. Pro-choice advocates, in turn, accuse pro-lifers of erasing the identity of the mother in favor of the fetus.
05:26:13 AM Jul 9th 2013
Regardless of political views, that's... ridiculously Square Peg Round Trope. Just comically so.
10:35:42 PM Jul 11th 2013
Yeah, that was very well removed. Well done, Hodor. Or perhaps I should say, "hodor hodor, Hodor."
11:01:29 AM Apr 11th 2013
Does anyone know the explanation for the Conan O'Brian example under real life? I don't see why NBC removed as much of his material as it says.
05:03:53 PM Jul 7th 2012
Why were a lot of the real life examples(such as the DeviantArt one) removed?
05:16:16 AM Mar 18th 2013
Ouch. Help, please. I tried to add two examples at the end of the site, and when I clicked on "edit", they were gone and only the update was left. I don't know if I did it, or if it was me how I did it, because only the scrolling of the examples to erase them would have taken a long time. I added Cynthia Lennon and May Pang, and when I updated everything else had disappeared. Please, anyone, if you have the real life examples on cache, do put them on again, I don't know how to do it!

Please help, I don't know how that happened. I totally didn't do that on purpose, and I don't really know if it was me (though I suppose it was me, since all the real life info disappeared just after my updating).
05:22:16 AM Mar 18th 2013
It was late so I went to bed thinking it was probably my computer. I hadn't selected and erased anything, so if I couldn't see the Real Life examples I thought maybe it was my computer lagging or something like that. But today I see that, truly, all that info disappeared. Can I undo the edit and put it as it was? I am very sorry, I totally didn't want to damage the page that way, the Real Life examples is the most important part of this page, it was historically accurate. If there's a way to undo the disaster, please tell me why. I was trying to ADD, never to erase. In fact, I wanted what I had added to be at the BOTTOM of the "Real Life" examples page, since I know the cases weren't as huge as the political ones. I cannot stress how sorry I am. I still don't know how that happened, I did not scroll the real life examples to make them disappear. If I had mistakenly done a "select all", then the whole page would have been erased, and not only the Real Life section. I don't understand what happened, and worse, I don't know how to undo it. Lots of people put a shitload of work in that Real Life section and I don't know how I destroyed it, when I was just trying to help. I feel atrociously bad because precisely erasing things from the Real Life section of this site feels criminal. I am so sorry, everyone. I just wanted to add info, not remove it. Got to go now, but can someone please repair this? I cannot repeat enough times how sorry I am for this.
05:23:35 AM Mar 18th 2013
Sorry, I got nervous, I meant: "If there's a way to undo the disaster, please tell me HOW".
05:27:02 AM Mar 18th 2013
WOW! That was FAST! Thank you, Almighty Repairer Of Information Loss By Stupid User!

Seriously, thank you. I was very shocked to see what had happened. I feared people might think I was trying to give precedence to my edition over the rest of the information. It seemed like I was trying to get attention, you know? I totally didn't mean that. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you, thank you, thank you for repairing.
05:32:50 AM Mar 18th 2013
OK, Mystery solved. No one had repaired the page (I just did). I clicked on "Real life" again, and all the previous Real Life examples appeared BEFORE my last addition. I wondered how that was, so I went to the edit page. What had happened was that I had added Cynthia and May AFTER the label of closed folder (something like [[folder]] ). So, if you clicked in "Real Life", first you could see my last addition, and if you clicked AGAIN, then all the info appeared.

Once I realized that, I took the "end of folder" label and put it at the end of the information. Now everything is as it should be, and as I intended it to be when I updated.

Sorry, everyone. Newbie problems :-)
08:02:16 AM Jul 25th 2010
Removed from the Herostratus/Temple of Artemis example:

  • Given that the same guy is called Erostratus, and occasionally Philoctetes...

Because the first is an artifact of how Greek is written (the initial "h" was indicated by a breathing mark, not an alphabetic character, so to the untrained eye the name looks like "Erostratus"), and the second isn't actually true.
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