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Dessertsunrise
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07:27:32 PM Nov 23rd 2013
In some cases I'm not sure it was the author's intent, so should it be a separate trope?. It may be a case of careless/bad writing.

It may be a case of Did Not do the Research, but it may be that the storyline makes more sense if we assume the narrator is lying.

CaptainCrawdad
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04:35:32 PM Nov 3rd 2011
  • Madara Uchiha from Naruto. If nothing else, one must suspect his claims that the Kyuubi was a natural disaster, despite there being mounds of evidence that he was actually controlling it. Or his claims that his brother gave him his eyes willingly? Why anyone believes anything he says...
    • One of those claims has been shown to be true by the databooks: that his brother gave him his eyes willingly. The same databook that confirmed this didn't comment on whether the Kyuubi claim was true or not.
      • It turns out the Kyuubi bit was false. After briefly holding the two-minute-old Naruto hostage, he kidnaps Kushina, who is still exhausted from giving birth while simultaneously keeping the fox from escaping her, and uses his Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan to essentially rip the Kyuubi out of her, and then takes control of it and sics it on the village.
      • Actually Tobi was never even Madara Uchiha to begin with.

Can we get some sort of consensus on what is true and not true?
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