Here's a question; is one a tomboy simply for having stereotypically "un-girly" interests, and not liking stereotypically "girly" things? Like, not being into personal appearance, pink, high heels, shopping, ect. and taking interest in martial arts, Shōnen anime/manga, academics like science and chemistry, and what have you, though let's say she keeps a few girly traits (like maybe beanies and cute things and a couple of cartoon crushes), would it still count? Or would she be more like, "balanced" between the two?
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Depends. As the trope says it's a subjective judgement.
Likely the girl you describe would be considered Tomboyish by many people.
She'd probably be considered a Tomboy with a Girly Streak, but I think it'd depend on her overall demeanor/personality and how she talks, carries herself, presents herself, etc.
My opinion is that being a tomboy shows you that are outgoing. Most asians tend to be tomboys and they make good friends.
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... that was an impressive amount of generalizations to shove into very few words.
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I know editing's not allowed here, but I'll bite anyway.
Isn't the caption below the main image a little bit, for a lack of a better word, sexist? When you say "Yet." like that, it's implying that all girls will grow up to be girly, even though that's not always the case. I mean, I know it's healthier for a woman's psyche to be girly, but not all girls are comfortable with it or even want to get into makeup or have families. There are some who get along with guys better or prefer activities that are considered masculine. And when the main image shows an 8-year old tomboyish girl, it's like saying that only girls are tomboys when they're kids.
I find it ironic that the Yamato Nadeshiko trope allows examples and no signs of "Yet." or images of kids, even though that trope is based on Japan's thoughts on what makes a woman flawless in their eyes. I'm well aware that all of this sounds really petty, but that's my 2 cents.
Feel free to explain why this page can't be edited and why my thoughts are flawed, I don't mind.
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Yes, it does need to be taken to the caption repair thread. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1404492079030138900&page=31
It is quite a complete and utter disappointment that examples aren't allowed here.
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Trope That Used to be Man
I'm currently working on adding tropes to The Day My Butt Went Psycho!, but I'm having trouble figuring out what Tomboy trope, if any, to use for a particular example. The behavior of the show's resident Tomboy, Elanor, typically falls into One of the Guys with a small side of Tomboy with a Girly Streak. However, in one instance, she proves to be prejudiced against a squad of peppy, girly cheerleaders and their perfect, girly leader Chelsea, because, despite their outward appearance and actions, they can do battle just as well as she and her friends Zack and Deuce, the latter two actually enjoy the fact they can do so despite appearances. This prejudice actually kicks off the plot of the show's "Rear Window" Homage Parody Episode when Elanor, incensed that Chelsea's cheerleader squad is able to effortlessly sling Chelsea's furniture into her new home, tries to lift Chelsea's just-unpacked refrigerator, only to fail, get angry, and kick it with her foot, injuring it and rendering her wheelchair-bound until it heals.
I don't think it falls under Female Misogynist since she doesn't exhibit this behavior towards anyone else, just the Chelsea and her cheerleaders, nor does she think non-tomboys should Stay in the Kitchen; furthermore, none of the other Tomboy sub-tropes seem to fit this particular example. Any suggestions would be really appreciated!
I be more trope than man, now.
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Well, let's look at the facts. She plays a sport and has a defensive attitude just like a Cute Bruiser while still being Moe Moe so she's not trying to be anything other than herself. She does enjoy being pretty and has romantic feelings but that doesn't make her less boyish despite those who say Real Women Never Wear Dresses.
Despite what the article says, I think wanting to be a Moe Moe and a tomboy is like wanting to be Affably Evil and a Complete Monster.
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It was decided in YKTTW that examples are a bad thing for a Tomboy page. Put examples on the subtrope pages.
Well, most (younger) tomboys are cute, albeit in an unconventional, non-Moe-like way.
What is the relationship section about (found on the the right of the discussion)?
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It's about the relationships that Tomboy has with other tropes,like whether its a parent trope or a sibling of another trope.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Calling the Hot Scientist a tomboy is offensive to women want to excel academically. A feminine woman is allowed to fight (if she does it gracefully) but not earn a degree? Someone tell me why I shouldn't remove it from the list.
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We aren't talking about what women aren't allowed to do. Math & science are generally considered masculine subjects.
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Yeah, that's the problem; being interested in things like science and math shouldn't be called "guyish" things, any more than, say, writing a book is "girly". That's the issue here.
Exactly. We are talking about what is generally considered masculine by society. You could also point out that saying tough girls are tomboys is offensive to female wrestlers, but those must be on the list.
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Because it's the way it is. We catalog tropes as found in fiction. We don't censor them because they are Politically Incorrect.
No offense, but nerdy characters can be plenty girly. I mean, case in point: how many times do you hear male geek characters being called "manly"? When a guy's nerdy, he's not esteemed as being exceptionally "masculine" as compared to, say, an athletic or lecherous guy. So how is it that when a girl does it, that automatically spells "tomboy"? Especially considering how tropes like The Smart Guy and Guile Hero/Science Hero are more passive roles than The Big Guy and Action Hero.
It's good that people have added examples but all it says for each of the western animation examples and anime/manga is that they fit perfectly. That's as good as saying X Just X. No tomboy fits everything, at least not equally, so each of them needs to say how it applies. Thank you.
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It was decided in YKTTW that examples are a bad thing for a Tomboy page. Put examples on the subtrope pages.
Is there a male counterpart to the tomboy on this wiki? Feminine boys, if I wasn't being obvious enough.
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I am going to be honest, that I am rightfully pissed off that character examples arent allowed here despite the sub-tropes. If I were in TV Tropes shoes, I would be allowing them to be added here anyway, and without that, the harder itll be for what characters can be of this trope, as well as finding them and identifying them.
It doesnt fucking help either that Wikipedia is so bloody biased with some tomboys being on there and not allowing them, like Applejack, despite being commonly known to be one. TV Tropes is no better as it disallows the character examples on the Tomboy trope article. I really despise it when absurd exceptions are made in full-on wrongful bias. Its also obviously hypocritical because, the In Touch With His Feminine Side trope, has been given a pass, but the Tomboy article doesnt. Im sorry, but Im afraid TV Tropes will have to loosen their standards and give the Tomboy article a pass as well. 😒
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